Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Alt Hist Hypothetical James Dean in 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 James Dean is OP - Nuff said. James dean. 2 command, 0 in everything else. Liberal Pacifist Technology (Founded the department of technology.) Likable, Charisma, Orator, Propagandist, Celebrity, Passive, Cosmopolitan and Crisis manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Second Go, IRL politicians only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Well... nobody got a majority before the convention, with delegates as follows: 402 (24.80%) - Michael Bloomberg 159 (9.81%) - Elizabeth Warren 600 (37.01%) - Pete Buttigieg 298 (18.38%) - Joe Biden 162 (9.99%) - Bernie Sanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 I also belatedly realized I wasn't using meter information, which I fixed on the next go around, as well as went with the following rules: After first group if in last in delegates, candidate has 60% chance to withdraw, with - 50% chance to endorse 1st place, 25% to endorse same or closest candidate ideologically, 25% to endorse candidate who won most states in that group (randomize if tied) Successive groups last in delegates, 75% to withdraw with 50% chance to endorse the front runner and 50% for same or closest candidate ideologically second to last, 50% to withdraw, with same rules as above Three candidates left Last place has 50% chance to withdraw unless delegate gap is > 20%, which they will then withdraw and endorse as above Puritan or Disharmonious If withdraw is triggered a 4-6 die roll chance they will stay in to spite the front runner, earning -2 in all future primary groups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Third Time's the Charm - I'll repeat it to see if it's predisposed or w/e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Buttigieg - 989 Bloomberg - 774 Biden - 326, Endorsed Buttigieg (245 Buttigieg, 81 Bloomberg) Sanders - 3, Endorsed Buttigieg Warren - 3, Endorsed Buttigieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vols21 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Mayor Pete looks to get most votes of the actual real candidates all 3 times. And the 2 actual front runners were mired toward the bottom. Any thoughts on why? Is it the stats, bad rolls or something else? lot of discussion in other places about variability, replay ability, and lean toward some historical accuracy without locking in those results. First couple tests seem to lock in an non historical result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Vols21 said: Mayor Pete looks to get most votes of the actual real candidates all 3 times. And the 2 actual front runners were mired toward the bottom. Any thoughts on why? Is it the stats, bad rolls or something else? lot of discussion in other places about variability, replay ability, and lean toward some historical accuracy without locking in those results. First couple tests seem to lock in an non historical result. Well Biden won SC largely in part because of an important endorsement. How are endorsements figured in? Clyburn saved Biden's campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vols21 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I don’t think endorsements are included outright. The election is just a small part of the overall game, so it’s meant to be an in depth election simulation. So you could assume the endorsement is figured into the dice roll and role play accordingly (get a high roll could mean you received a key endorsement in that state), Not the same I know, Could be included easy enough (pick up endorsement based on die roll to get a bump in that state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 Fourth Simulation, Drop Out Chances Doubled (official rules change) Bloomberg: 821 Buttigieg: 700 Sanders: 236Warren: 0 Biden: 218 (endorsed Bloomberg) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Vols21 said: Mayor Pete looks to get most votes of the actual real candidates all 3 times. And the 2 actual front runners were mired toward the bottom. Any thoughts on why? Is it the stats, bad rolls or something else? lot of discussion in other places about variability, replay ability, and lean toward some historical accuracy without locking in those results. First couple tests seem to lock in an non historical result. In the modern times Liberals, Progressives and LW populists have malluses due to meter issues. Biden is a Lib. The only Mods are Buttigieg and Bloomberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 These are great. Would love to see you do some 2020 general election simulations, I think that data would be helpful in showing us what we need to fix with the general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: These are great. Would love to see you do some 2020 general election simulations, I think that data would be helpful in showing us what we need to fix with the general. Yea I'll throw the candidates at the incumbent (Trump-Pence) and show em off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A man from Colorado Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, Arkansas Progressive said: Yea I'll throw the candidates at the incumbent (Trump-Pence) and show em off Will that group include James Dean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, A man from Colorado said: Will that group include James Dean? Sure I'll include OP Dean on one test, probably the last one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 James Dean / Bernie Sanders v. Donald Trump / Mike Pence 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Thanks! Oregon and Texas seem the clear outliers to me, though not completely outside the realm of possibility. James Dean is pretty overpowered though, right? What would a normal candidate look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Oh, Oklahoma too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Arkansas Progressive said: James Dean / Bernie Sanders v. Donald Trump / Mike Pence This isn't a crazy map save for the margins, and it looks like Oklahoma was probably a lucky dice roll for the Dean team? I do agree with Ted that Dean being a pretty powerful candidate kinda makes me wonder what an evenly matched 2020 looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Arkansas Progressive said: James Dean / Bernie Sanders v. Donald Trump / Mike Pence How was OK won? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, vcczar said: How was OK won? Regional bonus plus meters effects gave it a tie 2-2. Dean won the rolls 5-3 for a 7-5 win (51-49) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 So yes, the D6 was so very, very dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ShortKing said: This isn't a crazy map save for the margins, and it looks like Oklahoma was probably a lucky dice roll for the Dean team? I do agree with Ted that Dean being a pretty powerful candidate kinda makes me wonder what an evenly matched 2020 looks like. yea I'll do Sanders-Warren next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted May 17, 2022 Author Share Posted May 17, 2022 Same election, d3 die Texas and Wisconsin almost but not quite allow Trump to sue for the election results ala Bush v. Gore (tbh that's gotta be an achievement) as the majority was supplied by Arizona 50-49. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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