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How many of you have done iSideWith? https://www.isidewith.com/

I'm sort of retaking it as I can't get into my old results, but so far I'm 

  • 93% Socialist and Green
  • 92% Democrat
  • 87% Transhumanist and Peace & Freedom
  • 39% Libertarian
  • 4% Constitution
  • 2% Republican

In addition to this, I side with the following...

  • AOC 94% of the time
  • Sanders 93%
  • K Harris 93%
  • Warren 92%    
  • H Clinton 92%
  • Buttigieg 90%
  • Biden 84%
  • Musk 65%
  • Gabbard 65%
  • Ron Paul 11%
  • Rand Paul 10%
  • Trump 10%
  • Cruz 3% 
  • DeSantis 1%

All of this will likely change once I finish all the quiz questions but I'd imagine this is mostly correct. 

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According to my test, my most similar politicians are;

  • Tulsi Gabbard - 79%
  • Elon Musk - 78%
  • Mark Cuban - 71%
  • Pete Buttigieg - 70%
  • Joe Biden - 70%
  • Donald Trump - 66%
  • Kamala Harris - 63%
  • Nikki Haley - 63%
  • Candace Owens - 63%
  • Amy Klobuchar - 62%
  • Bernie Sanders - 61%
  • Tucker Carlson - 60%
  • Elizabeth Warren - 58%
  • AOC - 56%
  • Mike Pence - 55%
  • Ben Shapiro - 51%
  • Marco Rubio - 49%
  • Ron DeSantis - 46%
  • Ted Cruz - 44%
  • Rand Paul - 34%

And my most similar parties are;

  • American Solidarity - 82%
  • Transhumanist - 67%
  • Democratic - 65%
  • Peace&Freedom - 60%
  • Socialist - 53%
  • Green - 53%
  • Republican - 50%
  • Constitution - 39%
  • Libertarian - 16%

Not the result I expected, but I can understand how I got there.

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15 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

According to my test, my most similar politicians are;

  • Tulsi Gabbard - 79%
  • Elon Musk - 78%
  • Mark Cuban - 71%
  • Pete Buttigieg - 70%
  • Joe Biden - 70%
  • Donald Trump - 66%
  • Kamala Harris - 63%
  • Nikki Haley - 63%
  • Candace Owens - 63%
  • Amy Klobuchar - 62%
  • Bernie Sanders - 61%
  • Tucker Carlson - 60%
  • Elizabeth Warren - 58%
  • AOC - 56%
  • Mike Pence - 55%
  • Ben Shapiro - 51%
  • Marco Rubio - 49%
  • Ron DeSantis - 46%
  • Ted Cruz - 44%
  • Rand Paul - 34%

And my most similar parties are;

  • American Solidarity - 82%
  • Transhumanist - 67%
  • Democratic - 65%
  • Peace&Freedom - 60%
  • Socialist - 53%
  • Green - 53%
  • Republican - 50%
  • Constitution - 39%
  • Libertarian - 16%

Not the result I expected, but I can understand how I got there.

That's quite unique. I feel like about 4 years ago you were more in line with Bernie Sanders, but maybe I'm wrong. 

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

I'm kind of wondering where they draw the line to define a, "politician?" I mean, Elon Musk, Mark Cuban, and, in other refences out there, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Oprah Winfrey, Mark Zuckerberg, and the Koch Brothers (now Brother) have never run for office (or only in a very low vote-getting VP run for the Libertarians in 1980 for David Koch), but are just very opinionated and public billionaire corporates. Likewise, Tucker Carlson is just a media talking head who also has never run for office. So, where is the line drawn, as it doesn't seem to be at the formerly standard point where you must've have thrown your hat, formally, into an electoral ring, regardless of success, at some point, anymore?

I think non-politicians are considered a politician if the media speculates that they may have ambitions for political office or if they are politically opinionated. 

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18 minutes ago, vcczar said:

That's quite unique. I feel like about 4 years ago you were more in line with Bernie Sanders, but maybe I'm wrong. 

Yeah, around that time I was a communist, I remember I even had the DDR flag as my pfp for a while there. Definitely not my proudest moment. I think the uniqueness is mostly due to the fact that there's really aren't any politicians who mesh with my ideology. I'm socially conservative(but still pro LGBTQ rights), and economically leftist, and there's a grand totally of 0 major politicians who fit that description.

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4 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

Yeah, around that time I was a communist, I remember I even had the DDR flag as my pfp for a while there. Definitely not my proudest moment. I think the uniqueness is mostly due to the fact that there's really aren't any politicians who mesh with my ideology. I'm socially conservative(but still pro LGBTQ rights), and economically leftist, and there's a grand totally of 0 major politicians who fit that description.

What caused your ideological shift? Just curious. 

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1 hour ago, WVProgressive said:

According to my test, my most similar politicians are;

  • Tulsi Gabbard - 79%
  • Elon Musk - 78%
  • Mark Cuban - 71%
  • Pete Buttigieg - 70%
  • Joe Biden - 70%
  • Donald Trump - 66%
  • Kamala Harris - 63%
  • Nikki Haley - 63%
  • Candace Owens - 63%
  • Amy Klobuchar - 62%
  • Bernie Sanders - 61%
  • Tucker Carlson - 60%
  • Elizabeth Warren - 58%
  • AOC - 56%
  • Mike Pence - 55%
  • Ben Shapiro - 51%
  • Marco Rubio - 49%
  • Ron DeSantis - 46%
  • Ted Cruz - 44%
  • Rand Paul - 34%

And my most similar parties are;

  • American Solidarity - 82%
  • Transhumanist - 67%
  • Democratic - 65%
  • Peace&Freedom - 60%
  • Socialist - 53%
  • Green - 53%
  • Republican - 50%
  • Constitution - 39%
  • Libertarian - 16%

Not the result I expected, but I can understand how I got there.

Seems accurate. Tulsi Gabbard is probably the only person close to you somewhat as she’s a progressive economically, but although I wouldn’t say she’s right wing on social issues (though she has recently expressed a pro life stance) she’s certainly right wing on cultural issues

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Here's my results, but there were not enough economic questions.

88% Transhumanist
Politically Correct • Privacy • Collectivism • Tender • Democratic Socialism

83% Women’s Equality
Secular • Big Government • Politically Correct • Multiculturalism • Collectivism • Tender • Keynesian • Pacifism • Globalism • Centralization

79% Peace and Freedom
Big Government • Tender • Collectivism • Globalism • Democracy • Regulation • Centralization

79% Democratic
Secular • Left Wing • Politically Correct • Environmentalism • Tender • Centralization

76% Green
Environmentalism • Left Wing • Democratic Socialism • Tender • Secular • Progressive • Politically Correct • Pacifism • Isolationism • Globalism

70% Socialist
Left Wing • Environmentalism • Democratic Socialism • Progressive • Collectivism • Secular • Democracy • Keynesian

39% Constitution
Right Wing • Assimilation • Small Government • Nationalism • Laissez-faire • Deregulation

38% Libertarian
Anthropocentrism

29% Republican
Right Wing • Traditional • Tough • Meritocracy • Capitalism • Anthropocentrism

 

For candidates

The following shows the percentage of issues you side with for the candidates running in the 2024 Presidential election.

89% INDEPENDENT
Elon Musk
Foreign Policy • Social • National Security • Healthcare • Criminal • Transportation • Science • Electoral • Housing • Domestic Policy

88% INDEPENDENT
Mark Cuban
Creativity • Business Experience • Environmentalism • Centralization • Religious

83% DEMOCRAT
Joe Biden
Big Government • Collectivism • Secular • Multiculturalism • Environmentalism ••• Politically Correct • Tender • Progressive • Democracy

83% DEMOCRAT
Amy Klobuchar
Big Government • Keynesian • Centralization • Secular • Collectivism • Left Wing ••• Environmentalism • Democratic Socialism • Regulation • Tender

82% DEMOCRAT
Pete Buttigieg
Charisma • Communication • Humility • Progressive • Left Wing • Collectivism ••• Multiculturalism • Tender • Politically Correct • Big Government • Globalism • Democracy • Globalization

77% DEMOCRAT
Kamala Harris
Environmentalism • Left Wing • Secular • Collectivism • Multiculturalism • Progressive ••• Big Government • Centralization • Politically Correct • Tender • Globalism • Pacifism • Democratic Socialism • Democracy • Keynesian • Globalization

77% INDEPENDENT
Bernie Sanders
Honesty • Determination • Compassion • Left Wing • Progressive • Big Government ••• Secular • Environmentalism • Multiculturalism • Tender • Collectivism • Democratic Socialism • Politically Correct

77% DEMOCRAT
Tulsi Gabbard
Diplomacy • Health • Foreign Policy Experience • Democracy • Decentralization ••• Environmentalism • Keynesian

74% DEMOCRAT
Elizabeth Warren
Strategy • Secular • Collectivism • Big Government • Progressive • Left Wing ••• Democracy • Tender • Democratic Socialism • Multiculturalism • Politically Correct

74% DEMOCRAT
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Left Wing • Collectivism • Democracy • Progressive • Democratic Socialism ••• Politically Correct • Globalism • Isolationism

49% REPUBLICAN
Rand Paul
Accountability • Small Government • Individualism • Capitalism • Isolationism ••• Decentralization • Right Wing • Anthropocentrism • Deregulation

49% REPUBLICAN
Ben Shapiro
Sense of Humor • Intelligence • Confidence • Individualism • Small Government ••• Decentralization • Religious • Assimilation • Tough • Anthropocentrism • Meritocracy • Deregulation

49% REPUBLICAN
Nikki Haley
Right Wing • Small Government • Individualism • Religious • Assimilation ••• Traditional • Nationalism • Deregulation • Meritocracy • Militarism • Capitalism

46% REPUBLICAN
Mike Pence
Patriotism • Right Wing • Traditional • Individualism • Small Government • Tough ••• Nationalism • Meritocracy • Deregulation

46% REPUBLICAN
Candace Owens
Right Wing • Individualism • Nationalism • Assimilation • Small Government • Tough ••• Anthropocentrism • Decentralization

38% REPUBLICAN
Marco Rubio
Imperialism • Small Government • Anthropocentrism • Individualism • Tough ••• Religious • Traditional

37% REPUBLICAN
Tucker Carlson
Individualism • Right Wing • Tough • Meritocracy • Nationalism • Militarism ••• Traditional • Religious • Decentralization • Anthropocentrism • Capitalism • Protectionism

33% REPUBLICAN
Ron DeSantis
Leadership • Electability • Individualism • Decentralization • Assimilation • Nationalism ••• Anthropocentrism • Laissez-faire

33% REPUBLICAN
Donald Trump
Toughness • Nationalism • Individualism • Meritocracy • Protectionism ••• Anthropocentrism • Decentralization

33% REPUBLICAN
Ted Cruz
Small Government • Right Wing • Individualism • Laissez-faire •••

 

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Mark Cuban - 83%

Elon Musk - 81%

Tulsi Gabbard - 80%

Rand Paul - 75%

Candace Owens - 72%

Bernie Sanders - 69°%

Ron DeSantis - 68%

Amy Klobuchar - 67%

Ben Shapiro - 65%

Nikki Haley - 65%

Pete Buttigieg - 64%

Elizabeth Warren - 57%

AOC - 57%

Tucker Carlson - 57%

Kamala Harris - 54%

Donald Trump - 51%

Marco Rubio - 49%

Mike Pence - 49%

Joe Biden - 48%

Ted Cruz - 46%

 

 

 

Transhumanist - 86%

Libertarian - 77%

American Solidarity - 69%

Green - 67%

Peace and Freedom - 61%

Democratic - 56%

Socialist - 55%

Constitution - 54%

Republican - 47%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, vcczar said:

What caused your ideological shift? Just curious. 

I'd attribute my conservative turn to me getting far more religious, and spiritual. When I was a Communist, I was also an atheist, whereas now I meditate at least once a week, and I try to do it more often, when I have the time. Over the years I've sought guidance from the Gods on just about every moral (and, by extension, political) question of the day. Through this my views on personal morality became conservative, and by extension my views on societal morality also became more conservative.

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2 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

I'd attribute my conservative turn to me getting far more religious, and spiritual. When I was a Communist, I was also an atheist, whereas now I meditate at least once a week, and I try to do it more often, when I have the time. Over the years I've sought guidance from the Gods on just about every moral (and, by extension, political) question of the day. Through this my views on personal morality became conservative, and by extension my views on societal morality also became more conservative.

Hmm interesting. Why do you think spiritualism shifted you socially conservative rather than liberal? Most of my spiritual, but non-Christian friends are socially liberal. 

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On 5/24/2022 at 10:37 PM, WVProgressive said:

I'd attribute my conservative turn to me getting far more religious, and spiritual. When I was a Communist, I was also an atheist, whereas now I meditate at least once a week, and I try to do it more often, when I have the time. Over the years I've sought guidance from the Gods on just about every moral (and, by extension, political) question of the day. Through this my views on personal morality became conservative, and by extension my views on societal morality also became more conservative.

May i ask you if it swayed your views on abortion / same sex marriage or others societal debates such as drugs or euthanasia?

Note : I got my answer for same sex marriage, I was wondering for the 3 others too

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Isidewith got a lot more messier. It's a clusterfuck. But I do like the content. Why is Candace Owens on here lmao? Anyways, I guess I'm happy for this one. That's my GOVUNUH.

I think I definitely need to try this again tomorrow because I scrolled fast and went through the questions pretty quick. Not giving many specific answers. I don't think it's entirely accurate as it might've once been. It just feels like a content overload. 

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Mine:

71% Mark Cuban

66% Tulsi Gabbard

66% Candace Owens

65% Elon Musk

63% Nikki Hlaey

63% Mike Pence

63% Ben Shapiro

61% Ron DeSantis

57% Ted Cruz

56% Donald Trump

56% Pete Buttigieg

55% Bernie Sanders

55% Marco Rubio

53% Kamala Harris

52% Joe BIden

50% Elizabeth Warren

50% Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

49% Rand Paul

48% Tucker Carlson

48% Amy Klobuchar

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81% American Solidarity

60% Republican

57% Constitution

54% Transhumanist

53% Libertarian

51% Democratic

50% Green

48% Socialist

48% Women's Equality

45% Peace and Freedom

---

If 2020

74% Brian Carroll

56% Donald Trump

55% Mark Charles

53% Howie Hawkins

51% Jo Jorgensen

50% Joe Biden

If 2016

62% Evan McMullin

57% Donald Trump

57% Darrell Castle

57% Zoltan Istvan

56% Gary Johnson

56% Rocky De La Fuente

55% Jill Stein

51% Hilary Clinton

57% Mike Pence

57% Tim Kaine

If 2012

68% Mitt Romney

59% Gary Johnson

58% Barack Obama

57% Ron Paul

47% Jill Stein

46% Rocky Anderson

If 2008

69% John McCain

68% Ralph Nader

56% Barack Obama

50% Sarah Palin

36% Cynthia McKinney

If 2004

62% George W. Bush

59% John Kerry

55% Michael Badnarik

52% David Cobb

48% Michael Peroutka

If 2000

67% Pat Buchanan (!?)

63% Al Gore

60% George W. Bush

59% Howard Phillips

55% Harry Browne

If 1996

79% Ross Perot

68% John Hagelin

67% Bill Clinton

61% Bob Dole

58% Harry Browne

If 1992

77% Ross Perot

64% BIll Clinton

62% George H. W. Bush

If 1988

68% George H. W. Bush

60% Ron Paul

54% Michael Dukakis

If 1984

66% Ronald Reagan

65% David Bergland

56% Walter Mondale

39% Gus Hall

If 1980

66% Ronald Reagan

62% Ed Clark

62% Jimmy Carter

48% John B. Anderson

If 1976

66% Jimmy Carter

65% Gerald Ford

If 1972

70% Richard Nixon

69% John G. Schmitz (!)

58% George McGovern

If 1968

69% George Wallace (!?)

67% Richard Nixon

58% Hubert Humphrey

If 1964

63% LBJ

53% Barry Goldwater

If 1960

66% Richard Nixon

60% JFK

If 1956

71% Dwight D. Eisenhower

56% Adlai Stevenson

If 1952

74% Dwight D. Eisenhower

54% Adlai Stevenson

38% Vincent Hallinan

If 1948

67% Harry Truman

58% Thomas Dewey

54% Henry Wallace

47% Norman Thomas

 

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8 hours ago, vcczar said:

How many of you have done iSideWith? https://www.isidewith.com/

I'm sort of retaking it as I can't get into my old results, but so far I'm 

  • 93% Socialist and Green
  • 92% Democrat
  • 87% Transhumanist and Peace & Freedom
  • 39% Libertarian
  • 4% Constitution
  • 2% Republican

In addition to this, I side with the following...

  • AOC 94% of the time
  • Sanders 93%
  • K Harris 93%
  • Warren 92%    
  • H Clinton 92%
  • Buttigieg 90%
  • Biden 84%
  • Musk 65%
  • Gabbard 65%
  • Ron Paul 11%
  • Rand Paul 10%
  • Trump 10%
  • Cruz 3% 
  • DeSantis 1%

All of this will likely change once I finish all the quiz questions but I'd imagine this is mostly correct. 

I guess President DeSantis would be one of your worst nightmares.

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I side slightly towards secular, moderately towards globalism, moderately towards "politically correct", strongly towards deregulation, moderately towards anthropocentrism, strongly towards globalization, slightly right wing, moderately capitalist, moderately towards multilateralism, moderately libertarian, moderately multicultural, slightly towards privacy, moderately individualist, slightly towards tender vs tough, moderately small government and laissez-faire, strongly meritocratic, slightly progressive and pacifist, moderately imperialist, and moderately towards decentralization, according to ISideWith. 

Really feels like with so many moderate and slight leanings, it's odd the results for candidates and parties don't reflect as much moderation or centrism that I feel I approach political issues with. 

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10 hours ago, Edouard said:

May i ask you if it swayed your views on abortion / same sex marriage or others societal debates such as drugs or euthanasia?

Note : I got my answer for same sex marriage, I was wondering for the 3 others too

Individually I shifted from traditionnal left (SD) to centrist in the last 10 years but I remained about the same on societal issues (left-wing), it's only economically that I shifted to the center. This shift mostly happened before I was 18 and hasn't barely changed since.

Yes, it has. When I was an atheist, I was fanatically pro-choice, wanted to legalize all narcotics, and was fine with euthanasia. If I'm being honest, I get a bit ill thinking of how horrendous my opinions were back then. I've posted before on the forum that I am decidedly pro-life from conception to cremation.

I am against euthanasia both because it is immoral to kill someone just because they're incurable sick, and also because euthanasia is often used to victimize the sick, the disabled, and the vulnerable.

In an ideal world alcohol, and nicotine would be treated with the same scorn, and punishment as marijuana (or, more accurately heroine, or cocaine, given how cancerous alcohol, and nicotine have been to society). Unfortunately, this is not an ideal world. Nonetheless, I believe that any liberalization with regards to drugs, and their abuse is a spiritual, and societal step backwards.

10 hours ago, vcczar said:

Hmm interesting. Why do you think spiritualism shifted you socially conservative rather than liberal? Most of my spiritual, but non-Christian friends are socially liberal. 

For myself, I think it's because I reached my connection with the spiritual world naturally. Most of the time, it seems that the kind of people you mention, socially permissive spiritualists, achieved their 'spiritualism' from drug use. I firmly believes that drugs like dmt can only warp a person's perceptions of the spirit world, not show them the true face of it. This faulty view of the spirit world in turn gives them a faulty view of morality. No offense to your friends...

Through communion I have realized that there are a number of virtues that every Human innately recognized as morally righteous. It's a bit hard for me to explain. Let's take Justice as an example. Minerva has shown me that Just Actions, Just Thoughts, and Just Words are essential to being a morally righteous individual, and by extension, a morally righteous society must also be Just. For an example of how my opinions changed due to this revelation, take my opinion on the Death Penalty. I once believed that the death penalty was a human rights violation, but I now believe that in a moral society some actions can never be forgiven, and that the perpetrators of such actions can never be redeemed, and as such the only moral choice is to cast them out from all humanity, and even the physical plane itself, severing their mortal coil, and sending their soul to its proper end. I hope I don't come off as preachy, I'm simply trying to communicate to you what I honestly believe in, the best I can.

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I wish you could say "I don't know" for some of the questions.  I haven't bothered to read the Paris Climate Accord, for example.  I know vaguely that its goal is to benefit the environment but I have no idea what is actually in it so I don't have significant opinions on it.

Generally, I'm guided more by my opinion of a candidate than by their platforms.  Are they at least as smart as I am (preferably much smarter)?  Are they willing to make difficult, potentially unpopular decisions and explain to us what they did and why it was necessary?  Do they conduct themselves with at least as much integrity as I conduct myself (preferably much more)?  Do they care?

This used to make me an independent moderate, until 2016, when the "yes"ses became much harder to find among Republicans.

Democrat 75%
Green 65%
Socialist 64%
Peace and Freedom 64%
Libertarian 37%
Republican 33%
Constitution 17%

Couldn't find where to get the politician list from.

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7 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

Most of the time, it seems that the kind of people you mention, socially permissive spiritualists, achieved their 'spiritualism' from drug use.

This is a GIGANTIC assumption on your part. The people in question, as far as I know, don't use drugs. Almost all of my friends refrain from drug use aside from coffee, occasional alcohol, possibly very occasional tobacco and marijuana. That is to say, they reached their view of spirituality naturally; yet, their social views on justice and etc would be considered socially liberal....left to far-left. 

 

9 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

take my opinion on the Death Penalty. I once believed that the death penalty was a human rights violation, but I now believe that in a moral society some actions can never be forgiven, and that the perpetrators of such actions can never be redeemed, and as such the only moral choice is to cast them out from all humanity, and even the physical plane itself, severing their mortal coil, and sending their soul to its proper end.

I think a lot of people's opposition to the death penalty stems from occasional moments when people are put to death wrongly. Say, someone is wrongly accused or someone is so mentally handicapped that they can barely determine right from wrong by nature. 

For my own part, being someone that is 0% spiritual (although raised Christian and attended church weekly until I was about 17), I feel my own view of morality, justice, and etc. to be no less than those that attain these views through a supposed higher power. I think to put it simply. I am not certain there is a heaven, so I think it is in our best interest to make one on Earth. I think Just Action are actions aimed for the long-term beneficence of all humankind and for the Earth (since what is good for the Earth is generally good for us). I think Just Thought are thoughts to formulate what becomes these actions. I think Just Words are words aimed at supplementing these actions. I think things that are mostly in opposition to the long-term beneficence of all humankind, even if they are practical at the time, are several corrupting institutions---such as organized religion, political parties, multiple nation states (including borders), social hierarchies, and I'll even go so far as to say, even the current education system (both higher and lower education), and etc. This latter part is very Emersonian, if you've ever read "Self-Reliance." I also believe firmly that hatred is both evil and foolish. With hatred I also mean white supremacy, chosen people mentality (such as America first or islamist fundamentalism). I think love, also, can be evil, depending on how it is used. For instance, if one were to say, "I love myself more than anyone else." or "I love this person more than anyone or anything else," then it creates a kind of imbalance in which favoritism is given to the one over the rest. Good love would be to say, "I love everyone or most people equally." This would then be a source for Just Action to create laws, welfare, jobs, etc. with the idea of long-term beneficence, just laws and rights, etc. This is all just my ideal, and I don't think much of it is practical at the moment. I think before it can be, the world needs to be further secularized and world governments need to be less authoritarian. Nevertheless, my social liberal views come from something other than spiritual since, as I say, I am not spiritual. 

 

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13 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said:

I wish you could say "I don't know" for some of the questions.  I haven't bothered to read the Paris Climate Accord, for example.  I know vaguely that its goal is to benefit the environment but I have no idea what is actually in it so I don't have significant opinions on it.

Generally, I'm guided more by my opinion of a candidate than by their platforms.  Are they at least as smart as I am (preferably much smarter)?  Are they willing to make difficult, potentially unpopular decisions and explain to us what they did and why it was necessary?  Do they conduct themselves with at least as much integrity as I conduct myself (preferably much more)?  Do they care?

This used to make me an independent moderate, until 2016, when the "yes"ses became much harder to find among Republicans.

Democrat 75%
Green 65%
Socialist 64%
Peace and Freedom 64%
Libertarian 37%
Republican 33%
Constitution 17%

Couldn't find where to get the politician list from.

I found a page on the website with a list of politicians and clicked them each individually. 

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2 hours ago, ShortKing said:

I side slightly towards secular, moderately towards globalism, moderately towards "politically correct", strongly towards deregulation, moderately towards anthropocentrism, strongly towards globalization, slightly right wing, moderately capitalist, moderately towards multilateralism, moderately libertarian, moderately multicultural, slightly towards privacy, moderately individualist, slightly towards tender vs tough, moderately small government and laissez-faire, strongly meritocratic, slightly progressive and pacifist, moderately imperialist, and moderately towards decentralization, according to ISideWith. 

Really feels like with so many moderate and slight leanings, it's odd the results for candidates and parties don't reflect as much moderation or centrism that I feel I approach political issues with. 

Your stances on individualism, tenderness, privacy, and libertarianism are likely the reason for the percentage with the politicians you got. Those are minority positions amongst current elected Republicans. I am pretty sure that’s why Rand Paul is higher on your list because he’s one of the few who takes those leanings. Probably for Owens and Shapiro too since they are commentators who tend to break from the traditional Republican official.

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5 minutes ago, vcczar said:

This is a GIGANTIC assumption on your part. The people in question, as far as I know, don't use drugs. Almost all of my friends refrain from drug use aside from coffee, occasional alcohol, possibly very occasional tobacco and marijuana. That is to say, they reached their view of spirituality naturally; yet, their social views on justice and etc would be considered socially liberal....left to far-left. 

 

Perhaps I should have put it better. Really, the reason I believe differently from your friends is the same reason I believe differently from a Hindu, or a Catholic, I believe that I am right, and they are wrong on most matters, just as how a Christian would view themselves as being right, and view me as being wrong.

12 minutes ago, vcczar said:

I think a lot of people's opposition to the death penalty stems from occasional moments when people are put to death wrongly. Say, someone is wrongly accused or someone is so mentally handicapped that they can barely determine right from wrong by nature. 

For my own part, being someone that is 0% spiritual (although raised Christian and attended church weekly until I was about 17), I feel my own view of morality, justice, and etc. to be no less than those that attain these views through a supposed higher power. I think to put it simply. I am not certain there is a heaven, so I think it is in our best interest to make one on Earth. I think Just Action are actions aimed for the long-term beneficence of all humankind and for the Earth (since what is good for the Earth is generally good for us). I think Just Thought are thoughts to formulate what becomes these actions. I think Just Words are words aimed at supplementing these actions. I think things that are mostly in opposition to the long-term beneficence of all humankind, even if they are practical at the time, are several corrupting institutions---such as organized religion, political parties, multiple nation states (including borders), social hierarchies, and I'll even go so far as to say, even the current education system (both higher and lower education), and etc. This latter part is very Emersonian, if you've ever read "Self-Reliance." I also believe firmly that hatred is both evil and foolish. With hatred I also mean white supremacy, chosen people mentality (such as America first or islamist fundamentalism). I think love, also, can be evil, depending on how it is used. For instance, if one were to say, "I love myself more than anyone else." or "I love this person more than anyone or anything else," then it creates a kind of imbalance in which favoritism is given to the one over the rest. Good love would be to say, "I love everyone or most people equally." This would then be a source for Just Action to create laws, welfare, jobs, etc. with the idea of long-term beneficence, just laws and rights, etc. This is all just my ideal, and I don't think much of it is practical at the moment. I think before it can be, the world needs to be further secularized and world governments need to be less authoritarian. Nevertheless, my social liberal views come from something other than spiritual since, as I say, I am not spiritual. 

Let me clarify that Justice is merely one aspect of my morality, not the singular lynchpin. A lot of other things go into determining whether an action/person/society is moral, other than the question of whether it is just, or unjust. To use an example from your post, loving your partner more than you love your neighbor is not immoral. You are supposed to love your family more than everyone else, because strong families are the backbone of a strong society. What would be immoral, however, is loving your wife, and then hating all the rest of humanity. I could give you a run down of what a 'morally ideal Human' would look like according to my beliefs, but I don't want to come off as preachy if that's something you have no interest in. 

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