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[vcczar]

Just now, WVProgressive said:

To use an example from your post, loving your partner more than you love your neighbor is not immoral. You are supposed to love your family more than everyone else, because strong families are the backbone of a strong society. What would be immoral, however, is loving your wife, and then hating all the rest of humanity. I could give you a run down of what a 'morally ideal Human' would look like according to my beliefs, but I don't want to come off as preachy if that's something you have no interest in. 

I'm talking about this is the more extreme sense. Say, there is you, the person you love, and a genius of Isaac Newton eminence who you don't know well. There's one space capsule that can carry one person to Mars, while the two the remain are left behind. The small colony in Mars, which is the remainder of humanity, is struggling to survive and it needs someone to figure a lot of stuff out to reach any chance of stability that could keep humanity going. Earth is about to be destroyed, you can save yourself, the person you love, or the genius who has an intricate idea of how to save the population on Mars. A person who "loves someone more than anyone else" in the sense I'm using it, would pick the person they love, likely dooming the people on Mars, which in effect also means likely dooming the person they love. A selfish or cowardly person would pick themself, wishing to at least delay their own death for when the Mars colony likely dies. The person that should be saved, if I interpret your Just Action into my own personal philosophy, would be to save the genius with a plan, giving the Mars colony the best chance of survival. It's by this sense that I'm using the terms, "I love you all" and "I love this person or thing more than anything else." 

[Mark_W]

• 93% Socialist
• 92% Democratic
• 91% Green
• 91% Women's Equality
• 90% Peace and Freedom
• 88% Transhumanist
• 74% American Solidarity
• 31% Libertarian
• 7% Republican
• 4% Constitution
  
   
• 94% AOC
• 93% Kamala Harris
• 91% Bernie Sanders
• 89% Elizabeth Warren
• 89% Pete Buttigieg
• 88% Joe Biden
• 80% Amy Klobuchar
• 70% Tulsi Gabbard
• 65% Elon Musk
• 62% Mark Cuban
  etc.

[Zenobiyl]

My most recent results

90% American Solidarity Party

65% Constitution Party

65% Socialist Party

64% Transhumanist Party

62% Green Party

59% Democratic Party

57% Republican Party

54% Peace and Freedom Party

47% Libertarian

*In hindsight my political beliefs have changed a bit, becoming more socially right wing while remaining generally left wing economically. Less internationalist on foreign policy and more pro-decentralization on miscellaneous issues. Aside from the American Solidarity Party absolutely none of these parties remotely fit me, getting near equal ratings from the Constitution and Socialist parties is lol. Also the libertarians being super far from me makes sense, since I’m exactly opposite of them on almost all the major issues (aside from some government surveillance stuff and foreign policy sometimes).

[Edouard]

My societal view is pretty easy to sum-up.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Edouard

[Hestia]

Parties

92% - Democratic

87% - Green

84% - Socialist

82% - Transhumanist

81% - Peace and Freedom

27% - Libertarian

9% - Republican

5% - Constitution

Politicians

92% - Amy Klobuchar

92% - Pete Buttigieg 

91% - Joe Biden

89% - Kamala Harris

89% - Elizabeth Warren

87% - AOC

86% - Bernie Sanders

Pretty much in line with what I expected. I don't think anyone will be very surprised lol. 

[Pringles]

Parties:

Republican - 84%

Constitution - 74% 

Libertarian - 49%

Democratic - 32%

All green, socialists, peace and freedom, etc. below 15%

 

Candidates: 

Nikki Haley - 92% 

Mike Pence - 88%

Ron Desantis - 88%

Ben Shapiro (God no, why???)- 87%

Candace Owens (Wtf, fuck that) - 87%

Marco Rubio - 87%

Mark Cuban - 82%

Donald Trump - 77%

 

Lowest Republicans: 

Rand Paul - 73% (I'm happy for this one I guess.)

Ted Cruz - 76% (hehe)

 

Highest "Democrat:"

Tulsi Gabbard - 67%

 

Highest Democrats: 

Amy Klobuchar - 49% 

Joe Biden - 47%

 

Lowest Democrats: 

AOC - 8%

Elizabeth Warren - 12%

Bernie Sanders - 13%

 

 

 

 

[Edouard]

I love how Hestia and Prongle are the most "main party aligned" so far

@Pringles time to subscribe to the Wire.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Edouard

[Pringles]

4 minutes ago, Edouard said:

I love how Hestia and Prongle are the most "main party aligned" so far

@Pringles time to subscribe to the Wire.

Fine fine. Time to learn logic and facts with Ben Shapiro, and drop out of college. I'm packing my bags to Prager University 😎

[Rezi]

Parties:

Green - 89%
Transhumanist - 88%

Democratic - 87%

Peace and Freedom/Socialist - 86%

American Solidarity - 84%

Women's Equality - 84%

Libertarian - 63%

Constitution - 28%

Republican - 24%

 

Highest Dems:

Bernie Sanders - 88%

AOC - 87%

Liz Warren - 87%

 

Lowest Dems:

Tulsi Gabbard - 83%

Joe Biden - 79%

 

Independents:

Elon Musk - 80%

Mark Cuban - 79%

 

Highest Republicans:

Rand Paul - 47%

Candace Owens/Nikki Haley - 43%

 

Lowest Republicans:

Donald Trump/Mike Pence - 30%

Ted Cruz - 29%

[Timur]

44 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Fine fine. Time to learn logic and facts with Ben Shapiro, and drop out of college. I'm packing my bags to Prager University 😎

 

[vcczar]

12 minutes ago, Patine said:

But in the end, I side with politicians, as a top priority, whose ambition and desire for office is to embrace the most important, paramount, and highest title of office of any elected, and most significant appointed officials, of ANY Constitutional Electoral system of Government - the all-forgotten title of PUBLIC SERVANT. Far too many politicians - in fact, the great majority at national levels, certainly - in the majority of nations under a Constitutional Electoral System of Government, have become elitist, detached from their constituents and the real and important concerns and needs thereof, preferring military and policy advisors, corporate donors and moneyed special interest groups, and defaulting to partisan ideology and towing of the line, instead. They've come to live in a world where they de facto live under different laws than their citizens - of which they are among, they often forget - and hold themselves above criminal and civil consequences for transgressions committed while in office - including those committed in the exercise office, and feel the right and privilege to keep seditious secrets from their constituents with impunity, and to, in an act of extreme hypocrisy and chutzpah, declare those who blow the whistle on those secrets - especially revealing betrayals and transgressions by government against their own people - to be the actual criminals. So, I side with those who sincerely desire to be PUBLIC SERVANTS, the true highest title of office of any such political figure, as much as most brush it under the carpet. In fact, behold how long ago the last man elected U.S. President, to date, who used the title as a significant plank in election was:

The irony of including Grover Cleveland as public servant is kind of funny. He continuously vetoed popular legislation, racking up the highest veto % per year of any president. He opposed almost anything that increase spending or put more authority in government, including anything bordering on welfare. He was also racist, pulling black officeholders from minor government offices. It would be like calling Ron Paul a public servant, when he's just a servant to textbook Libertarianism, with or without consent of the people. 

[vcczar]

20 minutes ago, Patine said:

To be fair, I didn't say he WAS a public servant, just that he was the last person elected U.S. President to bring it up as an election plank, which, perhaps, is an even grimmer situation.

He was really using that only in as much as he wanted to end the spoils system, but by allowing blacks to be removed just about completely, it definitely wasn't the merit system he wanted people to believe.