10centjimmy Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Edward de Vere of Oxford 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 Which of the remaining do you think is the hardest start? I'll do that one to see if it is possible to survive all the worst possible starting choices XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Willthescout7 said: Which of the remaining do you think is the hardest start? I'll do that one to see if it is possible to survive all the worst possible starting choices XD I'm not sure yet. This is the first playtest with many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 William Cecil, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 George Talbot I think will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) I’ll take Thomas Sackville Edited July 3, 2022 by WVProgressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 Ok, just need @Bloot911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloot911 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) Giles Byrdges Lord Chandos Edited July 3, 2022 by Bloot911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 @WVProgressive @Willthescout7 @ShortKing@10centjimmy @Bloot911 @OrangeP47 @ConservativeElector2 Excellent, so every company is down 10 pounds and up one patron. Tomorrow I'll fill out the rest of your actors, so you'll see your company as it stands for at least the first month of game time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 Alright! Each Company now has apprentice and boy actors. It still isn't time to cast your team of actors, but you can see who is in the lineup so far. Here's my own analysis: Note: If an actor is in orange, then they're historical. If blue, then fictional. Historical actors are almost always better. @10centjimmy is going to have a lot of work to do. His best actors should only be given minor roles in good company. @Bloot911's company has some potential now. He's got James Burbage--a true lead, a worthy support actor, and two good apprentices, who will one day take on better roles. Apprentice William Knell could eventually be better than James Burbage (father of the more famous Richard Burbage who played Hamlet and all of Shakespeare's lead roles). As such, once Knell hits age 21, he'll have to choose who will lead because they probably won't both stay with the company if they both want to leave. Not a bad problem to have. @ConservativeElector2 has a good startup company. John Bentley and Lawrence Dutton are keepers. Bentley is one of the best actors who cannot lead, which means Conservative still has a hole for lead. One boy actor, Thomas Towne, will almost certainly keep an adult role once he's old enough. @OrangeP47 might have the worst company at this point. He does not have a single historical actor. Thomas Cheddar is his one small bright spot because, as mediocre of an actor as he is, he has the ability to lead. Most of these new companies lack a true lead. This means that while his technical skill isn't great, his presence is great. @ShortKing's best actors are too young for the adult roles. John Lanham has a year or two to go to become an adult actor, and he'll definitely be a keeper. Boy actor Robert Armin is his best catch. He has a potential to be a 5 in acting (perfect score) and he's very consistent, which means he'll basically always be in top form. He's a lead clown, although he can't lead until he reaches age 21. Armin is 8 years old, the minimum age for an actor. For 10 years he'll have middling roles as a boy actor, and for 4 years he'll play female and minor roles as an apprentice. This is a long investment, but he's probably a top 3 comic actor in the entire game. Historically, Armin played the fool in King Lear and took on the lead comic roles in all of Shakespeare's plays from 1600-1613, which is to say, the last 60% or so of Shakespeare's career. @Willthescout7 is in exactly the same boat as 10centjimmy. Almost the same company but different names. @WVProgressive is kind of lucky here. Robert Wilson is a very consistent lead clown. Additionally, Robert Wilson can also write plays, although probably not great plays. The downside to this is that Wilson would likely have to take a season (3 months) off acting to write the play when that happens. Historically, Wilson wrote few plays early on. By the late 1590s, it seems like he was mostly writing plays in collaboration with other playwrights than acting. Up next: The Companies will seek a performance place. I need to type up a tab of all the theatre data, and then I'll let you choose. Might be today or tomorrow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 @WVProgressive @Willthescout7 @ShortKing@10centjimmy @Bloot911 @OrangeP47 @ConservativeElector2 The companies now need performance spaces. For simplicities sake, you'll need 26 performances a month, as you can't perform on Sundays. This will be a little rocky at first because London isn't really prepared for the theatre. There really isn't a single true theatre, although the theatre at Newington Butts comes closest. The owner of the Red Lion Farm is willing to reconvert the farm into a small theatre there for 15 pounds, but all of you only have 30 pounds left and you'll need that for more things. There had been a theatre there from 1567-1568 but it closed as the theatre wasn't yet ready to take off in London. Here are some things to keep in mind: You want to find enough performance space for 26 performances. If you can't get Newington Butts, then you'll have to jump around to different part-time locations. For part-time locations, you can't book them back to back. So you will have to jump from one to another, although you can jump back to one you've booked before. If you think your company is better than other player's, then you might want to book spaces that are likely to have competition. However, if you think your company is weak, you'll want to book a space that hasn't any other performance spaces. The closer you are to the City of London, the more likely you'll have a larger audience. The locations of the current theatres will put you either in the City of London, East End or Southwark. Check the terms for the rent cost. You'll almost certainly make enough for rent, but you'll need profit to keep the theatre running. One option, if you can't land a performance space, is to go on tour to the countryside. You won't make much money but the costs are much lower. See these performance spaces below, and then place them in the order that you hope to go from space-to-space. If there are any conflicts, I'll let you know. Please see what the other companies have booked. First come first serve: Theatre Space Status Terms Rent Location Opens Closes Availability Type Total Audience Capacity Boar's Head Inn Available 3 days a week 5 shillings per day Whitechapel (East End) 1557 1616 Part-time Innyard 500 The Bull Inn Available 3 days a week 5 shillings per day Aldgate (City of London) 1575 1594 Part-time Innyard 500 Saracen's Head Inn Available 3 days a week 5 shillings per day Aldgate (City of London) 1557 1594 Part-time Innyard 500 Newington Butts Theatre Available to rent for 3-month lease Half the galleries income for the performance Newington Butts (Southwark) 1576 1595 Full-time Small Outdoor 1000 The Beargarden Available 1 day a week 1 pound per day Bankside (Southwark) 1576 1594 Part-time Medium Outdoor 1500 The Bull Ring Available 1 day a week 1 pound per day Bankside (Southwark) 1576 1594 Part-time Medium Outdoor 1500 The Bell Inn Available for a 1-week lease 10 shillings per day Cornhill (City of London) 1576 1594 Part-time Innyard w/ indoor hall 500 The George Inn - Southwark Available 3 days a week 5 shillings per day St Mary's (Southwark) 1576 1594 Part-time Innyard 500 The George Inn - Whitechapel Available 3 days a week 5 shillings per day Whitechapel (East End) 1576 1594 Part-time Innyard 500 The Tabard Inn Available 3 days a week 5 shillings per day St Mary's (Southwark) 1576 1594 Part-time Innyard 0 The Red Lion Farm Available; Convertible to Theatre for 15 pounds and then leased for a year Half the galleries income for the performance Whitechapel (East End) 1567 1568 Full-time Small Outdoor 1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I am fine with keeping the list from first to last in this order. So I would choose Boar's Head Inn as #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said: I am fine with keeping the list from first to last in this order. So I would choose Boar's Head Inn as #1 You gotta be more specific because You can’t have both Newington Butts and an inn, for instance. All the days for taking the spot aren’t equal as well. So I need a totaled list from you and the others that equals 26 days. In the order you want to perform in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 If I drop off to be a bit slow, my apologies, but I've caught covid (though I'm vaxed, so it's mild). This has been a bright spot so far while ill though so tbh I'm probably gonna keep up with this more than AMPU while I'm having my feet swept out from under me haha. Venue rotation list: The Beargarden Boar's Head Inn The Bull Inn The George Inn - Southwark The George Inn - Whitechapel The Tabard Inn (Repeat) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) @vcczarfeel free to correct me if I filled this out wrong Venue Rotation Day 1. The Bull Inn 2. The Bull Inn 3. The Beargarden 4. Saracen's Head Inn 5. Saracen's Head Inn 6. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 7. The Bull Inn 8. The Bull Inn 9. The Bear Garden 10. Saracen's Head Inn 11. Saracen's Head Inn 12. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 13. The Bull Inn 14. The Bull Inn 15. The Beargarden 16. Saracen's Head Inn 17. Saracen's Head Inn 18. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 19. The Bull Inn 20. The Bull Inn 21. The Bull Inn 22. Saracen's Head Inn 23. Saracen's Head Inn 24. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 25. The Bull Inn 26.The Bull Inn Edited July 3, 2022 by WVProgressive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, WVProgressive said: @vcczarfeel free to correct me if I filled this out wrong Venue Rotation Day 1. The Bull Inn 2. The Bull Inn 3. The Bull Inn 4. Saracen's Head Inn 5. Saracen's Head Inn 6. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 7. The Bull Inn 8. The Bull Inn 9. The Bull Inn 10. Saracen's Head Inn 11. Saracen's Head Inn 12. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 13. The Bull Inn 14. The Bull Inn 15. The Bull Inn 16. Saracen's Head Inn 17. Saracen's Head Inn 18. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 19. The Bull Inn 20. The Bull Inn 21. The Bull Inn 22. Saracen's Head Inn 23. Saracen's Head Inn 24. Saracen's Head Inn Off Sunday 25. The Bull Inn 26.The Bull Inn Perfect! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Day 1: The Bull Ring Day 2: Saracen's Head Inn Day 3: Saracen's Head Inn Day 4: Boar's Head Inn Day 5: Boar's Head Inn Day 6: Boar's Head Inn (Sunday) Day 8: Saracen's Head Inn Day 9: Saracen's Head Inn Day 10: Saracen's Head Inn Day 11: The Beargarden Day 12: The Bull Ring Day 13: Boar's Head Inn (Sunday) Day 15: Saracen's Head Inn Day 16: Saracen's Head Inn Day 17: Saracen's Head Inn Day 18: The Beargarden Day 19: Boar's Head Inn Day 20: The Bull Ring (Sunday) Day 22: Saracen's Head Inn Day 23: The Beargarden Day 24: Saracen's Head Inn Day 25: Saracen's Head Inn Day 26: The Bull Ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 @WVProgressive You have three days in which your venue is taken. You can take the Beargarden or Bull Ring, which allows for day rentals, or you can opt not to stage anything those days. They aren't lengthy enough to tour on those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloot911 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1.The George Inn- WhiteChapel 2. The George Inn-WhiteChapel 3. The George Inn- Whitechapel 4. The Bull Inn 5. The Bull Inn 6. The Bull Inn 7. Off Sunday 8.The Tabern Inn 9. The Tabern Inn 10. The Tabern Inn 11, The George Inn -WhiteChapel 12. The George Inn- WhiteChapel 13. The George Inn- WhiteChapel 14. Off 15. the Bell Inn 16. The Bell Inn 17. The Bell Inn 18. The Bell Inn 19. The Bell Inn 20. The Bell Inn 21. Off 22. The Bear Garden 23. The George Inn- SouthWark 24.The George Inn- SouthWark 25. The George Inn- SouthWark 26. The Bear Garden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1. Tabard Inn 2. Tabard Inn 3. Tabard Inn 4. The Bear Garden 5. The Bull Inn 6. The George Inn Southwark Off 8. The George Inn Southwark 9. The George Inn Southwark 10. The Beargarden 11. The Bull Ring 12. The George Inn Southwark l 13. Tabard Inn Off 15. The Beargarden 16. The Bull Ring 17. Tabard inn 18. Saracen 19. Saracen 20. Saracen Off 22. George Inn Whitechapel 23. George Inn Whitechapel 24. George Inn Whitechapel 25. Beargarden 26. George Inn Southwark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I'll do this when I get home from work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 I'm off for the day. Just need @Willthescout7 @ConservativeElector2 @10centjimmy See the new Venue Schedule tab to see who has a location to stage plays when and where. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, 10centjimmy said: 1. Tabard Inn 2. Tabard Inn 3. Tabard Inn 4. The Bear Garden 5. The Bull Inn 6. The George Inn Southwark Off 8. The George Inn Southwark 9. The George Inn Southwark 10. The Beargarden 11. The Bull Ring 12. The George Inn Southwark l 13. Tabard Inn Off 15. The Beargarden 16. The Bull Ring 17. Tabard inn 18. Saracen 19. Saracen 20. Saracen Off 22. George Inn Whitechapel 23. George Inn Whitechapel 24. George Inn Whitechapel 25. Beargarden 26. George Inn Southwark @vcczar i cannot plug these in, looks like view only permissions on that tab Edited July 4, 2022 by 10centjimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Not sure if that works, but I tried my best: 1. Saracen 2. The George Inn Southwark 3. The George Inn Southwark 4. George Inn Whitechapel 5. George Inn Whitechapel 6. Tabard Inn Off 8. George Inn Whitechapel 9. George Inn Whitechapel 10. George Inn Whitechapel 11. The George Inn Southwark 12. The George Inn Southwark 13. The George Inn Southwark Off 15. George Inn Whitechapel 16. George Inn Whitechapel 17. George Inn Whitechapel 18. Tabard Inn 19. Tabard Inn 20. Tabard Inn Off 22. The Beargarden 23. The Bull RIng 24. Tabard 25. Tabard 26. George Inn Whitechapel Edited July 4, 2022 by ConservativeElector2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The George Inn-Southwark The Tabarn Inn The Bear Garden The George Inn-Southwark The Tabarn Inn The George Inn-Whitechapel Saracen's Head Inn Bull's Head Inn The Bear Garden The Tabarn Inn Boar's Head The Tabarn Inn The Bear Garden The George Inn-Southwark Boar's Head George Inn Southwark Boar's Head George Inn Southwark The Bell Inn The Bell Inn The Bell Inn The Bell Inn The Bell Inn The Bell Inn The Bell Inn The Tabarn Inn I think this is accurate based on what others have picked and my understanding of the rules. I was confused by what you meant by back to back performances when I saw others had places for multiple days in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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