vcczar Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 Siena has come out with a new presidential ranking, and the first with Biden included: https://scri.siena.edu/2022/06/22/american-presidents-greatest-and-worst/ Here are some highlights: FDR is the #1 president Andrew Johnson is the worst president. Carter scored #2 for integrity Trump is last in background, integrity, executive appointments, foreign policy accomplishments, and intelligence GHW Bush has moved from #21 overall to #20 Clinton has moved from #15 overall to #14 GW Bush has fallen from #33 to #35 Obama has improved from #17 to #11 Trump has fallen from #42 to #43 Biden is #19 overall. LBJ improved the most, moving from #16 to #8 Zachary Taylor has collapsed the most, moving from #30 to #36 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 10, 2022 Author Share Posted July 10, 2022 @Patine here's the full ranking with my thoughts. FDR Lincoln Washington Th Roosevelt Jefferson Eisenhower Truman *not top 10 in my book* LBJ *If not for Vietnam, would be #4, I think* JFK *Did almost nothing in his presidency, domestically. I'd put him closer to 20. I don't give him credit for the Great Society and etc. JFK has no chance of getting them through Congress. It took LBJ to do it.* Madison *Very overrated* Obama Monroe Wilson Clinton Polk J Adams JQ Adams *He was mostly impotent as a president. Great ideas, but he was powerless to enact them. He should be in the mid-20s at best* Reagan Biden *No president that has served only half of a term should be in the top half of the presidencies. He should be about #30* GHW Bush Grant McKinley Jackson Carter Taft Cleveland Garfield *Should be about 30. He didn't do anything.* Nixon Van Buren Ford Hayes Coolidge Arthur B Harrison *Underrated. Should be about 5 spots better* GW Bush Taylor *Should be better than GW Bush* Hoover Fillmore *Should be better than GW Bush* Tyler WH Harrison Pierce Harding *Should be about #35* Trump *Should be better than Pierce and possibly Tyler. Tentatively worse than Bush because of the toxic political environment, justices overturning Roe, loss of voting rights, etc. For American's, a much worse president than Trump. However, from a foreigner's perspective, the argument for Bush would seem stronger. Living as an American in America under Bush was much more tranquil than under Trump. For that reason, Trump is clearly worse on a US Presidential ranking. Buchanan *should be worse than A Johnson* A Johnson. I'd put him ahead of both Buchanan and Pierce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilight Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Biden shouldn't be rated at all while he's still in office Wilson is still way too high. JFK is always too high. LBJ continues to improve as the irrelevance of Vietnam becomes more apparent Reagan is too low, but not surprising given the left leaning tendencies of the ranking I still believe Buchanan should be last. The minimum I expect from a president is for the country to survive their term intact. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, vcczar said: Buchanan *should be worse than A Johnson* OUCH Ed: But I do agree that he should probably be last. Edited July 11, 2022 by 10centjimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 11:17 PM, vcczar said: 27. Garfield *Should be about 30. He didn't do anything.* Garfield is the saddest "what could have been" president. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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