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2024 Election Poll (7/14/2022)


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2024 Election Poll (7/14/2022)  

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  1. 1. If you had to place a bet, Does Joe Biden run for reelection?

  2. 2. If you had to place a bet, Does Donald Trump run for a non-consecutive 2nd term?

  3. 3. If you had to place a bet, who runs for president if Biden and Trump don't run for president?

    • VP Kamala Harris
    • Sec. Pete Buttigieg
    • NY Mayor Eric Adams
    • NC Gov Roy Cooper
    • Fmr NY Gov Andrew Cuomo
    • MN Sen Amy Klobuchar
    • CT Sen Chris Murphy
    • CA Gov Gavin Newsom
    • NY Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
    • VT Sen Bernie Sanders
    • AZ Sen Kyrsten Sinema
    • Fmr OH State Rep Nina Turner
    • MI Gov Gretchen Whitmer
    • Marianne Williamson
    • Fmr GA State Rep Stacey Abrams
    • OH Sen Sherrod Brown
    • NJ Sen Cory Booker
    • MA Sen Elizabeth Warren
    • Fmr Sec Hillary Clinton
    • Fmr 1st Lady Michelle Obama
    • IL Gov JB Pritzker
    • KY Gov Andy Beshear
    • CO Gov Jared Polis
    • WY Rep Liz Cheney
    • Donald Trump Jr
    • Fmr VP Mike Pence
    • TX Sen Ted Cruz
    • SC Sen Lindsey Graham
    • MD Gov Larry Hogan
    • Fmr NJ Gov Chris Christie
    • FL Gov Ron DeSantis
    • AR Sen Tom Cotton
    • GA Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene
    • Fmr UN Amb Nikki Haley
    • SD Gov Kristi Noem
    • AR Gov Asa Hutchinson
    • Fmr Sec Mike Pompeo
    • TX Gov Greg Abbott
    • AZ Gov Doug Ducey
    • GA Gov Brian Kemp
    • FL Sen Marco Rubio
    • VA Gov Glenn Youngkin
    • MO Sen Josh Hawley
    • UT Sen Mitt Romney
    • FL Sen Rick Scott
    • SC Sen Tim Scott
    • Ivanka Trump
    • Fmr WI Gov Scott Walker
    • KY Sen Rand Paul
    • Andrew Yang as an independent
  4. 4. Which of the following scandals are worthy of impeachment and removal from office?

    • George Washington signing the first Fugtive Slave Act
    • John Adams signing the Alien & Sedition Acts
    • Thomas Jefferson presiding over the first large scale "Indian Removals"
    • James Madison provoking an avoidable war that led to an invasion of the US
    • James Monroe signing the Missouri Compromise
    • John Quincy Adams making Henry Clay his Sec of State after Clay used his influence to make Adams president.
    • Andrew Jackson signing the Indian Removal Act
    • Andrew Jackson threatening to invade South Carolina during the Nullification Crisis
    • Martin Van Buren continuing the Indian Removal Act
    • Wiliam Henry Harrison for giving an excessively long speech in the freezing rain without a coat
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    • John Tyler for refusing to be acting president and demanding to be treated as an elected president
    • John Tyler for being elected as a Whig but declining to take on their policies once he became president
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    • James K Polk for provoking an avoidable war with Mexico
    • Zachary Taylor for threatening to personally lead an army and invade the South should they attempt to secede
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    • Millard Fillmore for signing the Great Compromise, including the updated, stricter Fugitive Slave Act
    • Franklin Pierce for signing the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which led to Bleeding Kansas, and then openly helping pro-slavery partisans attempt to take control of Kansas.
    • Franklin Pierce for the Ostend Manifesto, which was an attempt to purchase Cuba and then declare war on Spain if they refused.
    • James Buchanan for continuing Pierce's policy of openly supporting pro-slavery partisans during Bleeding Kansas
    • James Buchanan for meddling in the Dred Scott case
    • James Buchanan for refusing to respond to when secessionists committed an act of war by barring the reinforcement of Ft Sumter.
    • Abraham Lincoln for suspending habeaus corpus during the Civil War
    • Abraham Lincoln for invading the South
    • Andrew Johnson for violating the Tenure of Office Act, although it was later considered unconstitutional.
    • Andrew Johnson for using presidential power in a failed attempt to oppose guaranteed rights for black Americans
    • Ulysses S Grant for using military force to protect civil rights for black Americans
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    • Ulysses S Grant for the Gold Ring and Whiskey Ring and other scandals. He was not personally involved, however.
    • Rutherford B Hayes for calling out the military to break up the Great Railroad Strike
    • James A Garfield for not resigning after he was shot and lingering on for over 2 months before he died.
    • Chester A Arthur for working, on average, only a few hours a day
    • Grover Cleveland for using the veto more than all previous presidents combined
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    • Benjamin Harrison for annexing Hawaii, although this attempt was blocked by Cleveland once he took over office.
    • William McKinley for engaging in an avoidable war with Spain and possibly prokoking it.
    • William McKinley for annexing Hawaii and taking Puerto Rico, Philippines and other imperialist gains
    • Theodore Roosevelt for drinking 20 cups of coffee a day
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    • Theodore Roosevelt for converting the US presidency to an office that uses its muscle regulalry for domestic issues, rather than just on Foreign and Economic issues.
    • William H Taft for getting stuck in a bathtub
    • Woodrow Wilson for imposing segregation in the executive branch
    • Woodrow Wilson for establishing the Federal Reserve and Income Tax, although both were kind of spearheaded by Taft
    • Woodrow Wilson for joining WWI
    • Woodrow Wilson for setting the precedence of US intervention in European and national affairs
    • Woodrow Wilson for hiding his debilitating stroke from the public.
    • Warren G Harding for openly admitting that he isn't fit for the job and not resigning
    • Warren G Harding for a series of scandals. Harding knew he couldn't trust his friends and appointees but he didn't replace them.
    • Calvin Coolidge for refusing to authorize or call for federal spending in reaction to the Great Mississippi Flood (his Katrina), although he much later felt compelled to sign a bill to help out.
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    • Calvin Coolidge for requiring 10 to 12 hours of sleep each night
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    • Herbert Hoover for using the military to break up the "Bonus Army"
    • Herbert Hoover for general incompetency during the Great Depression
    • FDR for his role in creating the New Deal programs and legislation
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    • FDR for attempting to pack the courts
    • None of these
  5. 5. Continued....which are worthy of impeachment and removal.

    • FDR for the Japanese internment camps
    • FDR for entering WWII
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    • FDR for creating nuclear weapons
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    • Harry S Truman for dropping nuclear weapons
    • Harry S Truman for entering the Korean War
    • Dwight D Eisenhower for Operation Wetback, which deported Mexicans back to Mexico inhumanely, including the accidental deportation of some Mexican-Americans.
    • Dwight D Eisenhower for more or less declining to respond to McCarthyism
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    • JFK for large scale nuclear proliferation
    • JFK for appointing his brother as Attorney General
    • JFK for the failed Bay of Pigs invasion
    • LBJ for entering the Vietnam War
    • LBJ for spying on MLK and other Civil Rights leaders
    • LBJ for his role in his domestic initiatives--Great Society and War on Poverty, etc.
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    • Richard Nixon for his role in Watergate and the aftermath of Watergate
    • Richard Nixon for unilaterally taking the US off the Gold Standard (Nixon Shock)
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    • Richard Nixon for inaugurating the War on Drugs
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    • Richard Nixon for escalating the Vietnam War when he told the country he was ending the war.
    • Gerald Ford for pardoning Nixon
    • Jimmy Carter for arming anti-Soviet Afghani who eventually became Al-Queda
    • Ronald Reagan for the invasion of Grenada
    • Ronald Reagan for failure to respond to the AIDS epidemic
    • Ronald Reagan for the Iran-Contra Affair
    • Ronald Reagan for courting the Religious Right and making it a permanent part of GOP politics
    • George HW Bush for invading Iraq
    • George HW Bush for invading Panama
    • Bill Clinton for lying under oath
    • Bill Clinton for known sexual misconduct
    • Bill Clinton for US intervention in the Balkan Wars
    • George W Bush for the iraq invasion
    • George W Bush for signing the Patriot Act
    • George W Bush for mishandling of the Katrina disaster
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    • George W Bush for controversial interrogation practices
    • Barack Obama for US involvement in Arab Spring
    • Barack Obama for military intervention against ISIS
    • Barack Obama for his role in the creation of Obamacare
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    • Barack Obama for wearing a tan suit
    • Donald Trump for rhetoric that has been called racist or misogynist
    • Donald Trump for refusing to release his taxes
    • Donald Trump for his lackadaisical response to COVID, possibly leading to the deaths of thousands
    • Donald Trump for his family seperation policy at the border
    • Donald Trump for known sexual misconduct
    • Donald Trump for calling on other nations to give him dirt on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.
    • Donald Trump for spreading false allegations that the 2020 Election result is fradulent
    • Donald Trump for his role in inciting the January 6th Insurrection
    • Donald Trump for his hair cut and lying about his height and weight.
    • Joe Biden for being excessively old
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    • Joe Biden for a sloppy withdraw from Afghanistant, leading to a rapid takeover by the Taliban
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    • Joe Biden for his role in aiding Ukraine in their war against Russia
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    • None of the above
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Nixon didn't inaugurate the War on Drugs.  It really started when Kennedy signed the US onto the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs in 1961 and accelerated with LBJ's creation of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs in 1968.

However, like most bad policies that haunt us today, its roots are in the Wilson administration.  In this case the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act of 1914, which Wilson pushed congress to pass and was supported by some of the most disgusting, racist rhetoric imaginable.

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28 minutes ago, Patine said:

defend the disgustingly indefensible and inhuman of acts.

I was using wikipedia's language. I would never personally defend those practices. I oppose torture in 99% of cases, especially things like waterboarding. I only approve of it in a situation in which someone admits that they've planted a bomb or whatever that will kill people and that person won't tell us where that bomb is. In that instance, torturing one person to save many is justified, but it's only because the person has admitted to having prepared such a device.

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1 minute ago, pilight said:

Nixon didn't inaugurate the War on Drugs.  It really started when Kennedy signed the US onto the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs in 1961 and accelerated with LBJ's creation of the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs in 1968.

However, like most bad policies that haunt us today, its roots are in the Wilson administration.  In this case the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act of 1914, which Wilson pushed congress to pass and was supported by some of the most disgusting, racist rhetoric imaginable.

Those just laid the foundation for it. Nixon gave a public address in which he made the War on Drugs (his term) priority number one. 

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To clarify on Andrew Johnson: he didn’t break any actual crime (the law he broke was made specifically for a reason to impeach him lmfao), but I still probably would’ve voted to impeach for political reasons because fuck Andrew Johnson. 

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5 hours ago, vcczar said:

I was using wikipedia's language. I would never personally defend those practices. I oppose torture in 99% of cases, especially things like waterboarding. I only approve of it in a situation in which someone admits that they've planted a bomb or whatever that will kill people and that person won't tell us where that bomb is. In that instance, torturing one person to save many is justified, but it's only because the person has admitted to having prepared such a device.

Torture doesn't work.  There's mountains of evidence proving its ineffectiveness as an information gathering technique.  The only true purpose of torture is to entertain the torturer.

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