vcczar Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Here's the result of the presidential ranking, ranked by 21 forum members: George Washington Had bipartisan favorability. Had 6 #1 votes, 4 #2 votes, and 6 #3 votes. Thomas Jefferson Had only 1 vote outside the top 10 on any list (#17). Had 6 #2 votes and 6 #3 votes Abraham Lincoln Tanked by @jvikings1 and @ConservativeElector2 who ranked Lincoln poorly. Had 9 #1 votes, which beats Washington. 3 #2 votes. 3 #3 votes. Theodore Roosevelt Has 2 #1 votes and 1 #2 vote. Only two votes outside the top ten. Dwight D Eisenhower Had 1 #3 vote James Monroe Had 1 #3 vote James Madison Had 1 #2 vote by @matthewyoung123 FDR Had 4 #1 votes, 4 #2 votes, and 3 #3 votes. If the scoring was done like the Olympics he'd be in the top 3. Four rankers ranked FDR in the bad-failed president range, with @jvikings1 placing him at 44. James K Polk Had 1 #3 vote Ulysses S Grant JFK Harry S Truman Swung wildly. Had 1 #3 @Cenzonico and 1 #38 @ConservativeElector2 John Adams Calvin Coolidge Got @jvikings1's #2 vote Bill Clinton LBJ While 3 rankers consider LBJ a failed president, 7 rankers place LBJ in the top 5. William H Taft Barack Obama In failed president range by 4 rankers and top 10 for 6 rankers. George HW Bush John Quincy Adams William McKinley Richard Nixon Benjamin Harrison Ronald Reagan 3 rankers place him in fail president range. He's the #1 president for @Vols21 and two others place him in their top 5. Gerald Ford Andrew Jackson Got 2 failed president votes Grover Cleveland Is in @jvikings1's top 5. Martin Van Buren Chester A Arthur Zachary Taylor 1 failed president vote James A Garfield Rutherford B Hayes 2 failed president votes Jimmy Carter 2 failed president votes William Henry Harrison Warren G Harding Had 3 failed president votes, but also ranked in the good-to-above-average by some. George W Bush 8 rankers place him in the failed president range. However @ConservativeElector2 ranked him #4 Joe Biden Had 5 failed president ranks, with @Vols21 placing Biden as the worst president. @OrangeP47 placed him in his top 20. Millard Fillmore John Tyler Has 7 failed president votes, but @Cenzonico and @jvikings1 rank him in their top 20. Herbert Hoover Has 2 failed president votes, and @ConservativeElector2 has him in his top 20. Woodrow Wilson Has 11 failed president votes and both @DakotaHale and @jvikings1 place him as the worst president. Meanwhile, three rankers place him in their top 20. Donald Trump Has 12 failed president votes, with @OrangeP47 and @Rodja ranking him as the worst president in history. Meanwhile, three rankers place him in their top 20. Based on this, seems to be the 21st century version of Woodrow Wilson, in regards to reaction. Franklin Pierce 14 failed president votes Andrew Johnson 19 failed president vote, and with 4 rankers placing him as the worst president. James Buchanan 20 failed president votes with 12 of these as worst president votes. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Lol at Monroe at 6! John Quincy Adams carried that presidency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Lol at Monroe at 6! John Quincy Adams carried that presidency JQA should have tried carrying his own 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, ShortKing said: JQA should have tried carrying his own 100% right, and that's why his presidency wasn't #6 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I kinda hate that none of my votes were interesting enough to get name-dropped by V here smh 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ShortKing said: I kinda hate that none of my votes were interesting enough to get name-dropped by V here smh 1/4 of the presidents, including JFK (!), are probably pissed that they didn't get an explanatory post below them 😛 Edited July 20, 2022 by ConservativeElector2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, ShortKing said: I kinda hate that none of my votes were interesting enough to get name-dropped by V here smh You didn't have any noticeable outlier votes and neither did I. For the most part, only @jvikings1 was a consistantly deviant voter, breaking from both left and right leaning voters in many ways. @ConservativeElector2 was probably the 2nd most outlying voter. Most of the other right-wing voters seemed to vote similarly. With a few exceptions, the left-wing voters didn't deviate as much in their votes. Rightwingers couldn't agree on George W Bush, for instance. 7 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said: 1/4 of the presidents, including JFK (!) are probably pissed, that they didn't get an explantory post below them 😛 I only posted something if there was 1) an outlier vote, 2) they got a top 3 vote, or top 10 for lower ranking presidents, 3) had votes in failure range. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, vcczar said: I only posted something if there was 1) an outlier vote, 2) they got a top 3 vote, or top 10 for lower ranking presidents, 3) had votes in failure range. I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ShortKing said: I kinda hate that none of my votes were interesting enough to get name-dropped by V here smh Same. 😛 In all seriousness I think the most major outlier from me would’ve been John Adams. Other than that it’s a pretty straightforward ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Patine said: George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and William McKinley are a lot lower rated than I had feared they'd be. Well, you could have voted and your vote could have moved them in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Pringles said: Same. 😛 In all seriousness I think the most major outlier from me would’ve been John Adams. Other than that it’s a pretty straightforward ranking. I think Coolidge is the major outlier. He usually ranked about 30. Wilson is also an outlier but it makes sense he’d be there in our ranking since both liberals and conservatives have different reasons for disliking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Pringles said: Same. 😛 In all seriousness I think the most major outlier from me would’ve been John Adams. Other than that it’s a pretty straightforward ranking. all my outliers were outdone by other folks, I just can't compete with folks who are gonna rank FDR as our second-worst President 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodja Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 5 hours ago, vcczar said: FDR Had 4 #1 votes, 4 #2 votes, and 3 #3 votes. If the scoring was done like the Olympics he'd be in the top 3. Four rankers ranked FDR in the bad-failed president range, with @jvikings1 placing him at 44. @jvikings1I have no intention to argue,but with all due respect how could you rank the man who got us out of the Great Recession and won WW2 all while establishing most successful social programs 3rd worst President.Please,enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ShortKing said: all my outliers were outdone by other folks, I just can't compete with folks who are gonna rank FDR as our second-worst President Yeah I feel you. I don't like FDR's policies but he had some merits... there's no way I'm ranking him in the bottom lmao. It's just not realistic at all to me at that point, and it's disingenuous. At the very least he shouldn't be bottom 5 cause he's the only guy to win more than 2 terms. If you want to use generic reasoning on that. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pringles said: At the very least he shouldn't be bottom 5 cause he's the only guy to win more than 2 terms. If you want to use generic reasoning on that. XD There's a lot to complain about FDR about, and I even could be persuaded to knock him down a few spots in my ranking, but like, the WWII President not being in top 10? seems like a stretch tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Patine said: Did you read my post as a complaint or negative? I'm surprised - Professor... Just get out of bed on a day off? 😛 I’m just making a comment because the polling registered with you in some ways and you didn’t partake in the vote. A very natural response. I didn’t read it as either as either a complaint or negative. Just saying you missed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShortKing said: There's a lot to complain about FDR about, and I even could be persuaded to knock him down a few spots in my ranking, but like, the WWII President not being in top 10? seems like a stretch tbh Eh, I had him top 15. But I get you. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Pringles said: Eh, I had him top 15. I was trying to be subtle but yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Now's my chance to say the blatant bait in the other thread about ranking Coolidge high actually isn't bait because he's light years ahead of Harding and I voted accordingly. The man sounded like he had some personality too, despite being know as "Silent Cal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Also for the record I ranked both Trump AND Wilson low, though while I don't like Wilson there's a lot of presidents I like even less than Wilson, which isn't a plus for Wilson so much as a negative towards everyone that scored under Wilson heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentLiberty Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Rodja said: @jvikings1I have no intention to argue,but with all due respect how could you rank the man who got us out of the Great Recession and won WW2 all while establishing most successful social programs 3rd worst President.Please,enlighten me. I'm not Jvikings1 obviously but I'd imagine it could have to do something with his massive government overreach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, SilentLiberty said: I'm not Jvikings1 obviously but I'd imagine it could have to do something with his massive government overreach. I had him in my top 5 or 6 I believe but the internment camps were probably one of the most egregious human rights violations of any modern president as well -- which also goes in with overreach. Which is a valid concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 yeah worth noting how bad Korematsu was and how the reverberations continue well into the modern era. Even Trump, hardly a constitutional scholar, cited Korematsu in his calls for complete and total bans on muslim immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I'm glad I got one shoutout for Wilson 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Patine said: No one leader of one nation won, or could of likely won, WW2 and deserved all the credit for victory. Maybe, "played a major role in winning WW2 as leading a main Allied nation." FDR dismantled Nazi Germany with nothing but his bare hands, actually 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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