Popular Post Cal Posted July 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2022 Hello and welcome to another playthrough of A More Perfect Union! This game begins in 1772 with @Rezi and I as the only players. I have taken the Red Right Wing Populist faction while he has taken the Bloo Left Wing Populist faction. The rest of the factions are not open for human players and will instead be automated via CPU by the two of us. A huge thanks to @MrPotatoTed for setting up a 1772 base sheet for us to use with a few minor modifications. We have just finished resetting the names, undoing the draft from the template, and are getting ready to get started. My goals are to do some light RP and, of course, get my boy Benedict Arnold into the White House again. Hopefully he'll win reelection this time around 😉 I imagine that Rezi has plans for Daniel Hiester to lead the country again as well. Now, I'll get started on the red draft and post here when it's finished. Let's see how much we can with only CPU teammates that we can't coordinate with 😛 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Cal said: Hello and welcome to another playthrough of A More Perfect Union! This game begins in 1772 with @Rezi and I as the only players. I have taken the Red Right Wing Populist faction while he has taken the Bloo Left Wing Populist faction. The rest of the factions are not open for human players and will instead be automated via CPU by the two of us. A huge thanks to @MrPotatoTed for setting up a 1772 base sheet for us to use with a few minor modifications. We have just finished resetting the names, undoing the draft from the template, and are getting ready to get started. I imagine that Rezi has plans for Daniel Hiester to lead the country again as well. No Daniel Hiester. Thomas Paine 😈 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 29, 2022 Author Share Posted July 29, 2022 Just now, Rezi said: No Daniel Hiester. Thomas Paine 😈 Bring on the Pain(e). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rezi Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 BLOO ACTIVE DRAFT OF 1772 First 10 picks randomizing order... BlooModCPU: George Clinton. Mod, value 94 BlooLibCPU: Hugh Williamson, Lib, value 60 BlooConCPU: John Dickinson, Cons, value 69 Rezi: Samuel Adams, LW Pop, value 66 BlooTradCPU: Thomas Jefferson, RW Pop, value 119 BlooModCPU: Richard Henry Lee, Cons, value 57 BlooLibCPU: Cornelius Harnett, Mod, value 35 BlooConCPU: Patrick Henry, Trad, value 73 Rezi: Elias Boudinot, Prog, value 55. BlooTradCPU: Josiah Bartlett, Cons, value 56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 hours ago, 10centjimmy said: That popcorn is aging him terribly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Inaugural Red Draft HHCal (RW Populist, Traditionalist, Conservative) Samuel Huntington (Picked for a Kingmaker!) Benjamin Lincoln (Picked because he's good at everything) Jonathan Trumbull Jr (Picked because he's young and good at everything) William Patterson Caleb Strong John McKinly William Cushing James Duane Francis Dana Gunning Bedford Sr James Wood George Mathews William Moultrie Paine Wingate Thomas Fitzsimons Thomas Bee Philip Schuyler Henry Laurens Alexander Martin Robert Morris Samuel Chase George Read Daniel Carroll Isaac Roosevelt I Henry Lee II Arthur St. Clare Benedict Arnold (Patriot) (OUT OF CONSERVATIVES, MAY NOW DRAFT NEXT CLOSEST IDEOLOGY - MODERATES) Dudley Saltonstall Theodore Sedgwick Joshua Clayton Pierce Butler RedConCPU (Conservative, Moderate) Benjamin Franklin (Highest Kingmaker) John Jay (Highest PV) Roger Sherman (Highest PV) Charles Coatesworth Pinckney Matthew Griswold Benjamin Chew John Rutledge John Lowell Henry Middleton John Sullivan Lewis Morris Johnathan Trumbell Sr William Williams George Clymer Edmund Trowbridge Eliphalet Dyer Ralph Izard Esek Hopkins Thomas Tillinghast John Blair Jr Tristram Dalton Rawlins Lowndes John Witherspoon James Jones Charles Lee William Hindman John Pickering Robert H Harrison Jonathan Elmer Shearjashub Bourne RedModCPU (Conservative, Moderate) George Washington (Highest PV) John Adams (Highest PV) Caesar Rodney (Highest with Efficient) Timothy Pickering John Langdon Nathaniel Gorham Israel Putnam Richard Stockton Oliver Wolcott Sr Edmund Pendleton John Bartram Nathanael Greene Joseph Reed Thomas Johnson William Livingston William Samuel Johnson Benjamin Huntington Philemon Dickinson William Whipple Andrew Adams James Otis Jr. William Alexander Nicholas Van Dyke Richard Morris John Thomas Richard Adams Jr. Charles Biddle Samuel Osgood Edward Hand RedLibCPU (Liberal, Moderate) Thomas Miffin (Highest with Leadership) James Wilson (Highest PV) Benjamin Stoddert (Highest PV) Artemis Ward Charles Wilson Peale James Bowdoin William Moore Thomas Willing Charles Carrol of Carrolton Thomas Collins Samuel Johnston Matthew Thornton Upton Sheredine William Smallwood Nicholas Cooke William Paca David Rittenhouse Abraham Whipple William Hooper Archibald Bulloch Haym Saloman Button Gwinnett Abner Nash Silas Deane Joseph Hewes Thomas Scott Robert Goldsborough Egbert Benson Casimir Pulaski James Lloyd RedProgCPU (LW Populist, Progressive, Liberal) Oliver Ellsworth (Highest PV) Thomas McKean (Highest PV) George Wythe (Highest PV) Robert Treat Paine Benjamin Rush Francis Hopkinson Daniel of St. Thomas Jennifer Arthur Lee (NOW OUT OF ALL AVAILABLE IDEOLOGIES AND CAN DRAFT THE NEXT CLOSEST: MODERATES) William Heath Daniel Morgan Samuel Livermore William Greene Jr Joseph Warren Fredrick W von Steuben George Ross Francis Lewis Walter Livingston Henry Marchant James Smith John Bayard Abiel Foster Simeon Olcott John Morton Thomas Wharton Jr. John Houstoun Johnathan Freeman Edited July 30, 2022 by Cal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Inaugural Red Career Tracks HHCal Private: Pierce Butler Legislative: Theodore Sedgwick Governing: Judicial: Joshua Clayton Admin: Caleb Strong Military: Backroom: William Patterson RedConCPU Private: Shearjashub Bourne Legislative: Jonathan Elmer Governing: Judicial: John Jay Admin: Charles Coatesworth Pinckney Military: Robert H Harrison Backroom: RedModCPU Private: James Lloyd Legislative: Timothy Pickering Governing: Judicial: David Brearly Admin: Samuel Osgood Military: Edward Hand Backroom: RedLibCPU Private: Thomas Mifflin Legislative: Governing: Charles Biddle Judicial: Egbert Benson Admin: Benjamin Stoddert Military: Casimir Pulaski Backroom: RedProgCPU Private: Legislative: Richard Peters Governing: John Houstoun Judicial: Oliver Ellsworth Admin: Benjamin Rush Military: Backroom: Jonathan Freeman Edited July 30, 2022 by Cal Fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Red Relocations & Ideology Shifts HHCal Relocations: None Ideology shifts: M --> C Caleb Strong Dudley Saltonstall C --> T James Wood George Matthews Thomas Bee Arthur St. Clare Henry Lee II Isaac Roosevelt I William Cushing C --> M James Duane Philip Schuyler T --> C Benedict Arnold RedConCPU Relocations: None. Ideology shifts: Shearjashub Bourne M --> C John Sullivan M --> C RedModCPU Relocations: Benjamin Huntington CT --> PA Ideology shifts: James Lloyd M --> C Andrew Adams M --> C James Otis Jr M --> C RedLibCPU Relocations: None. Ideology shifts: William Paca M --> C Abraham Whipple M --> C RedProgCPU Relocations: None. Ideology shifts: Richard Peters M --> C WIP: Must sleep. I work a double tomorrow and the next day so it'll be slow on my end until Monday. Edited July 30, 2022 by Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 will finish later :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 ACTIVE BLOO DRAFT 1772 BlooModCPU: George Clinton Richard Henry Lee Peyton Randolph Meshech Weare Alexander McDougall Return J Meigs Sr George Muter John Hanson Samuel Allyne Otis Horatio Gates Philip Livingston Jeremiah Van Rennselaer Richard Bache Thomas Nelson Jr John Smith Arthur Middleton Francis Lightfoot Lee Thomas Stone BlooLibCPU: Hugh Williamson Cornelius Harnett Thomas Chittenden Moses Robinson John Milton William Montgomery John Hart William Smith Christopher Gadsden John Collins Ethan Allen Lambert Cadwalader Thomas Barbour James Clinton Benjamin Guerard John Williston Richard Montgomery John Penn BlooConCPU: John Dickinson Patrick Henry John Hancock Richard Caswell John Page John Archer Samuel Ashe Samuel Maclay Benjamin Harrison V William Maclay William Ellery William Grayson James Madison Sr Abraham Yates Jr William Preston Johann de Kalb Hugh Mercer Robert HoweRezi: Samuel Adams Elias Boudinot James Warren John A Treutlen Thomas Paine John Smilie Amos Singletary George Bryan Jonathan Grout George Taylor Joseph Stanton Jr Carter Braxton BlooTradCPU: Thomas Jefferson Josiah Bartlett Edward Telfair George Mason Nathaniel Niles Charles Scott Alexander Gillon William Floyd Robert Yates Thomas Sumter Theodorick Bland Timothy Bloodworth Daniel Boone William Preston Lachlan McIntosh Francis Marion Rookie Draft tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Cal said: Red Relocations & Ideology Shifts HHCal Relocations: None Ideology shifts: M --> C Caleb Strong C --> T James Wood George Matthews Thomas Bee Arthur St. Clare Henry Lee II Isaac Roosevelt I Dudley Saltonstall William Cushing C --> M Joshua Clayton Gunning Bedford Sr Thomas Fitzsimons James Duane Philip Schuyler George Read T --> C Benedict Arnold RedConCPU Relocations: Ideology shifts: RedModCPU Relocations: Ideology shifts: RedLibCPU Relocations: Ideology shifts: RedProgCPU Relocations: Ideology shifts: WIP: Must sleep. I work a double tomorrow and the next day so it'll be slow on my end until Monday. Don't forget, there's now only a % chance (I think 20%?) that ideology shifts are successful. (And still carry potential penalties even if they fail.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: Don't forget, there's now only a % chance (I think 20%?) that ideology shifts are successful. (And still carry potential penalties even if they fail.) Rezi and I are rolling for each other so those rolls have yet to happen. Gotta prevent any accusations of bias 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largo833 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Cal said: Rezi and I are rolling for each other so those rolls have yet to happen. Gotta prevent any accusations of bias 😛 Party of me is hoping that this devolves into turn after turn of both of you declaring "The totally random rolls say all fail, all gain flip-flopper!" 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 For those wondering: yes, Benedict Arnold will be my faction leader at some point. The reason I chose Samuel Huntington as my first draft pick is because he’s a Kingmaker from Connecticut… also where Arnold is from. When Arnold is protege’d by Huntington, he’ll gain 1 random skill between Legislative, Governing, and Judicial. So, the opening move will be either he runs for Continental Congress or Connecticut Governor, or if it’s just judicial he’ll have his usual rise through the military. Arnold will also gain Labor expertise, but no traits. It’s a nice boost to the typical Benedict Arnold start 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 ROOKIE BLOO DRAFT 1772 BlooModCPU: James Sullivan John Sevier Robert R Livingston Henry Southard Robert Brown David Bard Michael Jenifer Stone Rezi: Arthur Fenner Melancton Smith Jonathan Ingersoll Daniel Hiester John Lambert John Hiester Thomas Burke BlooConCPU: Elbridge Gerry John Paul Jones Paul Brigham John Mathews John Patten Aaron Kitchell John Barry BlooTradCPU: Thomas Tudor Tucker John Tyler Sr Anthony Wayne Thomas Heyward Jr Francis Willis Squire Boone BlooLibCPU: Richard Bassett Peter Muhlenberg Gunning Bedford Jr Robert Brown Ebenezer Hazard Cornelius Schoonmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) BLOO CAREER TRACK 1772 Rezi: Private: Thomas BurkeLegislative: Jonathan IngersollGoverning: John LambertJudicial: Admin:Military: Backroom: John Hiester BlooModCPU: Private: Robert BrownLegislative: Henry SouthardGoverning: David Bard (Ineligible, needs roll)Judicial: James SullivanAdmin: Robert R LivingstonMilitary: John SevierBackroom: Michael Jenifer Stone BlooConCPU: Private: John BarryLegislative: John PattenGoverning: Elbridge GerryJudicial: Paul BrighamAdmin: John Mathews (Ineligible, needs roll)Military: John Paul JonesBackroom: Aaron Kitchell BlooLibCPU: Private: Cornelius SchoonmakerLegislative: Robert BrownGoverning: Richard BassettJudicial: Gunning Bedford JrAdmin: Ebenezer HazardMilitary: Peter MuhlenbergBackroom: BlooTradCPU: Private: Thomas Heyward JrLegislative: Francis WillisGoverning: John Tyler SrJudicial: Squire BooneAdmin: Thomas Tudor TuckerMilitary: Anthony WayneBackroom: Edited July 31, 2022 by Rezi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 @Rezi don’t forget you can try to put non eligible pols into career tracks and we can roll for their entrance (50% chance IIRC, so you can try to stick Daniel Hiester somewhere if you want) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Cal said: @Rezi don’t forget you can try to put non eligible pols into career tracks and we can roll for their entrance (50% chance IIRC, so you can try to stick Daniel Hiester somewhere if you want) I know. I just dont wanna 😛 Edited July 30, 2022 by Rezi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 Red Kingmakers HHCal Samuel Huntington (Leadership) will take on Benedict Arnold, Dudley Saltonstall, and Jonathan Trumbull Jr as protégés. RedConCPU Benjamin Franklin will take on George Clymer as a protege (highest Gov + Leg + Command). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cal said: Red Kingmakers HHCal Samuel Huntington (Leadership) will take on Benedict Arnold, Dudley Saltonstall, and Jonathan Trumbull Jr as protégés. RedConCPU Benjamin Franklin will take on George Clymer as a protege (highest Gov + Leg + Command). Probably not in the rules, and I respect the game, but I really think one should only be able to activate Kingmaker-protege pairings once per 2 year period. Or the CPU should be doing the same thing as you. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Probably not in the rules, and I respect the game, but I really think one should only be able to activate Kingmaker-protege pairings once per 2 year period. Or the CPU should be doing the same thing as you. Right? The issue is that once a Kingmaker has a protege, they can’t make a new chain because they are an “active” Kingmaker, so the only way to actually utilize it seems to be to activate all protégés at once. I brought the same concern to V in the 1772 game when I wanted to activate more protégés for a Kingmaker who has gained leadership, and thus more Protege spots, but his opinion then was that when a Kingmaker is active that they can’t activate new protégés. He might be open to changing it nowadays, however. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Cal said: The issue is that once a Kingmaker has a protege, they can’t make a new chain because they are an “active” Kingmaker, so the only way to actually utilize it seems to be to activate all protégés at once. I brought the same concern to V in the 1772 game when I wanted to activate more protégés for a Kingmaker who has gained leadership, and thus more Protege spots, but his opinion then was that when a Kingmaker is active that they can’t activate new protégés. He might be open to changing it nowadays, however. But the issue with Franklin is that he didn’t have Kingmaker + Leadership that I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, Cal said: But the issue with Franklin is that he didn’t have Kingmaker + Leadership that I saw. Read my mind. If that's the case, is there a rule or dice roll that gauges whether the cpu Kingmaker does activate multiple protégés when they do have leadership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 48 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Read my mind. If that's the case, is there a rule or dice roll that gauges whether the cpu Kingmaker does activate multiple protégés when they do have leadership? I’d assume they activate the maximum they can at once, as there’s not any downside to doing so and not doing so just gives up free trait gains, skill gains, expertise gains, interest gains, and election bonuses + potential additional points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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