vcczar Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 This ranking isolates crisis-level situations and then rates their handling of these situations by "complete, relatively error-free resolution," "Complete, but imperfect resolution," "Unresolved crisis but put handles it about as well as any president could," "Disastrous handling of a crisis." Presidents were docked points if they didn't face a crisis. Presidents that faced many crises had the greatest opportunities for gaining/losing points: Here is the ranking (many presidents are actually tied): Lincoln FDR Truman Washington Jackson T Roosevelt Polk Wilson Eisenhower Reagan J Adams Jefferson Nixon Obama Madison Monroe McKinley Biden **shouldn't count** (tied with next three) Tyler GHW Bush JFK Garfield **shouldn't count** (tied with next seven) Cleveland, 1st term Cleveland, 2nd term WH Harrison **shouldn't count** B Harrison Taft JQ Adams Arthur Coolidge Van Buren (tied with next 3) Taylor Fillmore Clinton Ford Hayes Grant LBJ Harding Carter A Johnson GW Bush Trump Hoover Pierce Buchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, vcczar said: This ranking isolates crisis-level situations and then rates their handling of these situations by "complete, relatively error-free resolution," "Complete, but imperfect resolution," "Unresolved crisis but put handles it about as well as any president could," "Disastrous handling of a crisis." Presidents were docked points if they didn't face a crisis. Presidents that faced many crises had the greatest opportunities for gaining/losing points: Here is the ranking (many presidents are actually tied): Lincoln FDR Truman Washington Jackson T Roosevelt Polk Wilson Eisenhower Reagan J Adams Jefferson Nixon Obama Madison Monroe McKinley Biden **shouldn't count** (tied with next three) Tyler GHW Bush JFK Garfield **shouldn't count** (tied with next seven) Cleveland, 1st term Cleveland, 2nd term WH Harrison **shouldn't count** B Harrison Taft JQ Adams Arthur Coolidge Van Buren (tied with next 3) Taylor Fillmore Clinton Ford Hayes Grant LBJ Harding Carter A Johnson GW Bush Trump Hoover Pierce Buchanan Doin' my boy W dirty, as usual. Haha. ;c) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, MrPotatoTed said: Doin' my boy W dirty, as usual. Haha. ;c) I'm just putting down general consensus. He didn't resolve the Great Recession. He gets credit for a quick military stage victory in Iraq, but loses points for unresolved occupation which has often been compared to Vietnam. He gets credit for a quick response to terrorism, but the War on Terror is unresolved. His response to Hurricane Katrina, which was poor enough to become a metaphor for bad responses natural disasters is also included. I can understand liking him outside of this, but his record is there. Possibly it can change in a few years, but we've also had 13 years to analyze his presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilight Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 The problem with all these rankings is the assumption that a president handling the circumstances they got well or poorly means they would have also handled another president's equally well or poorly. This particular rating is especially useless in that regard. What Jimmy Carter faced was so completely different from what Thomas Jefferson faced that comparing them is impossible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 10 hours ago, pilight said: The problem with all these rankings is the assumption that a president handling the circumstances they got well or poorly means they would have also handled another president's equally well or poorly. This particular rating is especially useless in that regard. What Jimmy Carter faced was so completely different from what Thomas Jefferson faced that comparing them is impossible. The way I try to get around that is that I weigh the crises differently. Lincoln gets more points for facing a Civil War than Carter gets for handling all his crises combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilight Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 3 hours ago, vcczar said: The way I try to get around that is that I weigh the crises differently. Lincoln gets more points for facing a Civil War than Carter gets for handling all his crises combined. That still doesn't mean Lincoln would have handled Carter's circumstances well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, pilight said: That still doesn't mean Lincoln would have handled Carter's circumstances well That's true. Who knows if Obama or Trump would have handled the Civil War even better than Lincoln did. Nevertheless, just about every president faced a major crises and they either rose to the occasion or did not. I would assume those that seemed to meet their issues and handle them well would likely have performed well in about any era. I can't see Lincoln, for instance, fumbling in another time. I can't see Buchanan flourishing in a crisis during another time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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