vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, jvikings1 said: Sure. My thinking was states should be allowed to set policy for their state even if the federal government has done so. But with the caveat of having the affects of the policy reduced to acknowledge the presence of the federal government's policy. I think this further emphasizes the federalist structure of the US government. For example, let's say a state (governor) wants prohibition for his state but it is during federal prohibition, still allow the governor to make that his state's policy (which stays in affect even if federal prohibition goes away). In the modern context (and an opposite example), a state (governor) could legalize marijuana even if illegal at the federal level. So to make it the most basic, allow governors to set state policy even if already addressed by federal policy (with the small cavoite that if it's an action that can't be undone, like banning slavery, governors can't do anything about it) If I give you editing access to the Gov Actions, can you select which actions can contradict federal law? My main issue with your proposal is that a federal marijuana ban is designed to prevent states from legalizing marijuana. That's kind of the point of a federal ban, is it not? Otherwise, federal law is purely ceremonial, which it isnt. I think your example of someone banning alcohol even though the federal ban is overturned makes sense. I guess what you need to determine for me is, which Gov Actions don't fall into this caveate "with the small cavoite that if it's an action that can't be undone, like banning slavery, governors can't do anything about it)" as just about all the Federal ban legislation, in my opinion, falls into this. Prohibition is different because either than ban exists or it is repealed. There's no Legalize Alcohol Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I think minimum wage is a good example. Yes, the federal government set a minimum wage but most states have passed their own legislation expanding on it. Do what @jvikings1suggests but limiting it to expanding on federal law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Willthescout7 said: I think minimum wage is a good example. That already exists in the game though. It only does not become a thing if a Minimum Wage is banned. I'm mainly needing to know which things don't fall in the caveate that isn't already possible in the game. The minimum wage example happens. The Gov Action minimum wage doesn't need to be on and isn't triggered on by the Fed Min Wage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 I've added two new scripted events: One is the Trump agreement with the Taliban to withdraw from the country and end the war. One is the agreed date of the withdraw--historically under Biden--with the high chance of a sloppy withdraw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 Added three new pres actions. The president can now forgive student debt (10k, 50k, or all of it) via pres actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 I had two kinds of "Rebuild Crumbling Infrastructure" bills. I added a 3rd, so that it now includes all of Biden's Infrastructure bill. Theses bills are now all shown to have been historically passed in 2021. It's crazy that Biden's gotten more big things through congress in less than 2 years than Trump did in 4 years. It probably helps that Biden has legislative experience. Biden's somehow done this with Manchin and Sinema frequently styming him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, vcczar said: That already exists in the game though. It only does not become a thing if a Minimum Wage is banned. I'm mainly needing to know which things don't fall in the caveate that isn't already possible in the game. The minimum wage example happens. The Gov Action minimum wage doesn't need to be on and isn't triggered on by the Fed Min Wage. Didn't know the minimum wage option was in thr game already. That's awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, vcczar said: If I give you editing access to the Gov Actions, can you select which actions can contradict federal law? My main issue with your proposal is that a federal marijuana ban is designed to prevent states from legalizing marijuana. That's kind of the point of a federal ban, is it not? Otherwise, federal law is purely ceremonial, which it isnt. I think your example of someone banning alcohol even though the federal ban is overturned makes sense. I guess what you need to determine for me is, which Gov Actions don't fall into this caveate "with the small cavoite that if it's an action that can't be undone, like banning slavery, governors can't do anything about it)" as just about all the Federal ban legislation, in my opinion, falls into this. Prohibition is different because either than ban exists or it is repealed. There's no Legalize Alcohol Act. The marijuana thing is a real life example, though. Haha. Marijuana use remains against federal law, even though it's become legal in multiple states. In theory, feds could crack down...but so far, they've been turning a blind eye to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: The marijuana thing is a real life example, though. Haha. Marijuana use remains against federal law, even though it's become legal in multiple states. In theory, feds could crack down...but so far, they've been turning a blind eye to it. What is the federal bill banning marijuana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 Added 4 Curb Inflation bills modeled on the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 I'm done with the To Do List for today. I may jump on and help fill out politicians later. Tomorrow, I'll work on suggested fixes and the to-do list. We got like 5 or 6 days to try and have everything ready in the event Anthony is ready Sept 1st. The more remaining issues we have the more confusing it will be for him and the more likely it will slow things down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, vcczar said: What is the federal bill banning marijuana? It's been federally banned since 1970. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Drug_Abuse_Prevention_and_Control_Act_of_1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: The marijuana thing is a real life example, though. Haha. Marijuana use remains against federal law, even though it's become legal in multiple states. In theory, feds could crack down...but so far, they've been turning a blind eye to it. There is an official term for this concept, either Legal Indifference or something of that ilk. Technically, most federal bans could fall under this, but the Federal Government either cares about those or no one has pressed the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: It's been federally banned since 1970. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Drug_Abuse_Prevention_and_Control_Act_of_1970 "Since the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 classified marijuana as a Schedule I drug, until the passage of the 2018 United States farm bill, under federal law it was illegal to possess, use, buy, sell, or cultivate cannabis in all United States jurisdictions." This says, "it was" past tense. In 2014, there was an act that prevented the Justice Department from interfereing in a state's cannibas laws, so that pretty much wiped out that 1970 bill too. So what I need to figure out is how in 2012 these states contradicted federal law, which shouldn't be possible unless there's a loophole. So I need to find the loophole when I have time. Technically, there's no way a state law replaces a federal ban, unless it's allowed, there's a loop hole, or the ban is weakened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 @MrPotatoTed and @jvikings1. What i could do is create Pres Actions that are "Don't enforce _____ ban." which would then allowed the states to set the policy even with a ban. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 hours ago, vcczar said: @MrPotatoTed and @jvikings1. What i could do is create Pres Actions that are "Don't enforce _____ ban." which would then allowed the states to set the policy even with a ban. That’s fair. But it’s usually state action that causes this to happen. My reasoning for governors to set policy for their state is that it allows it to be “on the books” so to speak. And I proposed the reduction in benefits from the law as acknowledgment that federal law might contradict the state (and reduce enforcement). For example, KY and OH law stills says marriage is “one man and one woman.” It’s not enforceable but still state law. And if Obergefell was ever overturned, that would immediately be state law. States had abortion bans on the books even after Roe v Wade that then went into affect once it was overturned (which was caused by a state law contradicting Roe). For marijuana, Washington and Colorado legalized it in 2012 (before the change in federal policy). It was their action (an act of nullification) that caused a change in federal policy. Though federal law still keeps marijuana illegal even if not enforced against those states (stopping enforcement doesn’t change the presence of the law itself). On guns, we are starting to see red states establish policies preemptively attacking any future federal gun control laws (by saying that any gun control law not on state books is void and won’t be enforced within its borders). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Filled out a few more of the new politicians. I also added Thomas Jefferson's great-great grandson, Frederick Madison Roberts, a black man that lost a bid for the US House for CA. I had never heard of him, and I thought he'd be interesting to include. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Also adding Alexander Vindman, the whistleblower. He won't be that great of a military person, historically speaking, as he was never made a general, but he's in the game. He will have "integrity," which won't be of much use unless he somehow gains the ability to seek office. This could obviously occur via Gen Event or something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Clarified that the calling of a new Constitutional Convention occurs only if dom stab is at the lowest level. When this happens a Gov Action to call for a Constitutional Convention occur. It requires 2/3 of Govs selecting it. The call will remain active so long as dom stab is at the lowest level, and then is revokes when it is improved. This allows for the case where some Govs might select it (likely human Govs), and miss the 2/3, but then in the next half term, enough join the call, triggering a Convention. This is very rare, and like a lot of rare things, is more likely to happen the more humans are playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 New Pres Actions: (Note: all of these allow states to contradict federal law, such long as that federal law is not an Amendment or Constitution Plank. Contradictory Gov Actions are worth double points, but they are only half as effective. For most of these, the president would have to be souless asshole to perversely seek to apply these Pres Actions. Do not enforce federal ban on setting a higher min wage Do not enforce federal ban on slavery Do not enforce desegregation Do not enforce ban on public schools Do not enforce ban on teaching evolution Do not enforce anti-discrimination profections for LGBT Do not enforce ban on marijuana Do not enforce ban on hard drugs Do not enforce gay marriage protections in the states Do not enforce ban on poll tax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 minute ago, vcczar said: New Pres Actions: (Note: all of these allow states to contradict federal law, such long as that federal law is not an Amendment or Constitution Plank. Contradictory Gov Actions are worth double points, but they are only half as effective. For most of these, the president would have to be souless asshole to perversely seek to apply these Pres Actions. Do not enforce federal ban on setting a higher min wage Do not enforce federal ban on slavery Do not enforce desegregation Do not enforce ban on public schools Do not enforce ban on teaching evolution Do not enforce anti-discrimination profections for LGBT Do not enforce ban on marijuana Do not enforce ban on hard drugs Do not enforce gay marriage protections in the states Do not enforce ban on poll tax hmm... RW Populist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Added CPU cabinet appointment rules that now specify that the CPU will prioritize regional balance to the cabinet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Endorsements in the primaries now give 25% chance (for major candidate) or 10% chance (for minor candidate) for +1 momentum in the next primary stage. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Filled out my quota of 5 five new politicians per day just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 @MrPotatoTed I've decided not to change the seeming contraditions between Foreign Affairs/Military Chairman appointing generals, except in events. The main reason for this is that this chairman didn't have unilateral power---no one in the Continental Congress did. As such, just so Anthony doesn't have to create a new layer of how Scripted Events are handled, I'll just keep the Pres of the Congress in charge of Scripted Events. I think if I had coding abilities, I'd probably make the chance, but at this point, I'm fearful of anything that might slow development any more than it is already slowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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