vcczar Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 #10: Drew Brees Primary Team: New Orleans Saints Born in Dallas, Texas College: Purdue 2nd round pick in 2001 x1 First Team All-Pro x1 Super Bowl Champion and won the SB MVP x12 top three in Comp%, leading the league half of those times x7 led the league in yards x5 top three in QB Rating, twice leading the league x4 led the league in TDs x3 won 75% of his team's games x2 top three in TD%, once leading the league x2 top three in AYA He's sort of like the post-Marino Dan Marino in that he was expected to lead the league in yards each year. Despite his accolades, the fact that he was only a 1st Team AP once and never won the NFL MVP is a testament that his career overlapped with greats Brady, P Manning, and Rodgers. Despite making the top 10, he's manager to be the 4th best QB of his era! Brees was drafted by the Chargers in 2001 in the second round because some believed his height was an issue. He was a backup during his rookie season to the even shorter Doug Flutie. From 2002-2005, he was the Chargers starter, but despite foreshadowing his future greatness, the Chargers allowed the Saints to sign him in 2006 because they had drafted Philip Rivers as their new QB of the future. For the next 15 seasons, Brees started for the Saints, becoming the franchises greatest player and possibly the city's greatest athlete of all time. In his first season with the Saints, he led them to the NFC Championship but lost to the Bears. They didn't get deep into the playoffs again until 2009, when Brees led the Saints to a SB victory over the Colts, the same team they would have faced had they defeated the Bears in 2006. It wouldn't be until 2018 until Brees got deep into the playoffs again, when he lost in the NFC Championship to the Rams. He retired after the 2020 season at age 41. Brees had 7 seasons in which he threw for over 70% completion, five seasons of over 5,000 yards passing, and 10 seasons of 30+ TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 #9: Bart Starr Primary Team: Green Bay Packers Born in Montgomery, Alabama College: Alabama 17th round pick in 1956 x1 MVP x1 First Team All-Pro x2 Super Bowl Champion, winning the SB MVP both times x4 Championship appearances (3 wins and 1 loss) x5 top three in QB Rating, leading the league 4 times x5 top three in comp%, leading the league 4 times x4 top three in Low INT%, thrice leading the league x4 top three in AYA, , thrice leading the league x3 won 75% of his team's games He was drafted to back up starting QB Tobin Rote in 1956. The next season, he became the primary starter, but he had to share a lot of time with Babe Parilli for a couple of seasons as it was unsure which QB was better. Coach Vince Lombardi made the fateful decision halfway through the 1960 season to make Starr the permanent starter. Starr led the Packers to the Championship that season, but they lost to the Eagles. The next year, Starr won his first championship when he blew out the Giants 37-0, and he defeated them again for a 2nd championship victory the next year in 1962. Starr didn't get back to the Championship until 1965, when the Packers defeated the Cleveland Browns, who had the unstoppable RB Jim Brown. This was the last pre-Super Bowl Championship as the NFL and AFL merged to create the Super Bowl, which would pit the best teams of both leagues (now conferences) against each other. Despite the added competition, Starr and his Packers won both Super Bowls and Starr was named the MVP for both games. From 1968-1971, Starr began to miss games due to injury and wasn't quite the same. The ultimate game-managing QB. He never threw more than 16 TDs in a season. His record was 9-1 in the playoffs with 15 TDs to only 3 ints and over 104 QB Rating. He reached the top game of the year 6 times, losing only once. While Favre and Rodgers may have put up bigger numbers as a Packer, neither comes close to Starr's ability to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 #8: Steve Young Primary Team: San Francisco 49ers Born in Salt Lake City, Utah College: BYU 1st overall pick in the 1984 supplemental draft x2 MVP x3 First Team All-Pro x3 SB appearances (1 win as a starter + SB MVP, and 2 wins as a backup) x8 top three in comp%, leading the league 5 times. x7 top three in QB rating, leading the league 6 times. x7 top three in AYA , leading the league 6 times x4 top three in TD%, leading the league thrice x4 led the league in TDs x2 top three in low INT%, leading the league twice Directly related to Mormon leader Brigham Young. I greatly disliked Young when he was playing for the 49ers, 1) because he replaced Montana who I greatly respected, and 2) Young was so perfect of a QB that I really wanted him to fail. He was basically the Aaron Rodgers of his time, except even more mobile. Keep in mind that Young had only 8 full seasons as starter on the 49ers, and then realize that he led the league in comp% five of these seasons, and in QB Rating six of these seasons. However, it didn't always appear he'd be this good. Young was drafted by the Buccaneers in 1984, but he opted to sign with the rival USFL rather than with the NFL. Despite great expectations for him, his two seasons in this league were a disaster as he threw more interceptions than TDs, although he did showcase his running skill but running for over 500 yards and 7 TDs in one of those seasons. Young then began his tenure with the Buccaneers, but in two seasons he won only 3 games and tossed more INTs than TDs, just as he had in the USFL. As such, the Buccaneers drafted Vinny Testaverde and traded Young to the 49ers, where he backed up Joe Montana for 4 years. His first year as a backup in 1987 was quite amazing as he threw 10 TDs and 0 INTs. During his tenure as a back to Montana, he saw the 49ers win two Super Bowls and make it to the NFC Championship game. However, Montana suffered a major injury in that NFC Championship game and would miss the entire 1991 season, allowing Young to showcase his abilities. Following that season, and despite leading the league in QB Rating, Young was expected to be traded to the Raiders or another team, but Montana had still not recovered from his injury. Young played so well in 1992, winning the MVP, that he kept Montana on the bench, and he took the 49ers to the Championship where they lost to the Cowboys. Despite this, the 49ers owner wanted Montana to start in 1993, but players broke into Montana and Young factions, compelling Montana to ask for a trade to maintain harmony (he was traded to the Chiefs). In 1993, Young's first Montana-free season with the 49ers, he took the 49ers to a second Championship, but they again lost to the Cowboys. It wasn't until 1994 that Young finally made it to the Super Bowl and he walloped the hapless Chargers with his 6 TD pass performance. Young never made it to the Super Bowl again, although he made it to the Championship game but lost to the Packers in 1997. In 1998, Young, now 38 years old, was showing a steep decline, looking more like his USFL and Buccaneer days--quite a sudden drop off. In game three, he was knocked out for the season. He retired at year's end as the 49ers told him that they'd release him if he tried to keep playing and despite getting an offer to start for the post-Elway Broncos. Young retired with the highest career QB Rating up to that time. In addition, he ran for over 4,000 yards and 43 TDs. In regards to skill, Young, with the possible exception of Otto Graham, is the most perfect QB. However, he couldn't win the way Montana could, despite the success Young had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 #7: Brett Favre Primary Team: Green Bay Packers Born in Mississippi College: Southern Miss 2nd Round Pick in 1991 x3 MVP x3 First Team All-Pro x2 SB appearances (1 win and 1 loss) x6 top three in TD%, leading the league 4x x6 won 75% of his team's games x4 led the league in TDs x4 top three in comp%, once leading the league x3 top three in AYA x3 top three in QB Rating x2 led the league in yards x2 low INT%, once leading the league When I was younger it seemed like Favre was THE person to draft for Fantasy Football for like a decade. Favre was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons and was listed as the 3rd string QB as the team's coach thought Favre was a terrible QB. It seemed as such as he never completed a pass in 4 attempts and he threw 2 interceptions, including his 1st NFL Pass that was returned for a TD. After the 1991 season, the Falcons traded Favre to the Packers, who planned to have Favre backup Don Majkowski. After only a few games, Majkowski was benched for Favre, and Favre kept the starting job for 16 seasons. By 1995, Favre was clearly a superstar, as he won 3 MVP awards in a row, went to two Super Bowls (winning 1 and losing 1) and reaching the championship game in one of those years, although he lost to the Cowboys. He also led the league in TDs and TD% all three of these years. After this 1995-1997 season, Favre struggled to go deep into the playoffs, although he was in the running for the MVP a few times. In 2004, the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers and back-to-back mediocre seasons in 2005 and 2006 gave some possibility that Rodgers might take over the team. However, in 2007, Favre began playing like the Favre of a decade ago as he went on to win 13 games before losing to the Giants in the Championship by only 3 pts. Favre intended to retire after the 2007 season, and Rodgers took control of the team in the off-season. Favre decided to unretire, so the Packers traded him to the Jets where he had one mediocre season. He played two more seasons with the Vikings, which included an outstanding 2009 performance in which he threw 33 TDs to 7 INTs, a 107.2 QB Rating, and a trip to the Championship game, although the Vikings lost to the Saints by 3 points. His next season saw a decline in production, missed his first game due to injury, and while he later came back, he was knocked out for his career when his head hit frozen tundra during a sack. I had said right before the game that it would take an injury for Favre to retire. Favre was motionless on the frozen ground for what seemed like 15 minutes. Favre was about 41 when he retired, but I remember him looking like he was 60 year old. Favre retired with the NFL record for yards and TDs, but these have been surpassed. He still holds the records for consecutive starts, interceptions, and fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilight Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I was wrong about Daunte Culpepper. Steve Young was the QB made by a receiver more than any in league history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, pilight said: I was wrong about Daunte Culpepper. Steve Young was the QB made by a receiver more than any in league history. He had Rice and then Owens to strengthen that argument. However, in Young's defense, the year Rice was knocked out for the year after game 2, Young still threw for a 104.7 Rating, which led the league, and led the league in Comp%. He had Owens but this was before he was dominant. In fact, JJ Stokes was seen as the primary receiver when Rice went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 #6: Johnny Unitas Primary Team: Baltimore Colts Born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania College: Louisville 9th round pick in 1955 3x MVP 5x First Team All-Pro 2x Super Bowl appearances (1 win, 1 loss) 3x pre-SB Championship appearances (2 wins+1 MVP and 1 loss) 6x top three in AYA, thrice leading the league 5x top three in comp%, once leading the league 4x top three in Low INT%, twice leading the league 4x top three in TD%, leading the league each time 4x led league in TDs 4x led league in yards 4x top three in QB Rating, thrice leading the league People who remember the 1960s NFL would probably demand that Unitas is #1 in this ranking. For a while, it seemed like Unitas was the dividing line for modern QB. There were pre-Unitas QBs and post-Unitas QBs. He was drafted by his hometeam Steelers in 1955 in the 9th round as he was considered injury-prone and possibly a slow thinker. He was cut by the Steelers before the regular season for these reasons, and he worked construction while playing semi-professional football. The next year, he was signed by the Colts to be a backup QB after trying out for some NFL teams. He ended up as the team's starter by the end of that 1956 season, putting up mediocre stats but good enough for consideration for a potential rookie of the year. He was the full-fledged starter the next season, in 1957 and was arguably the best QB in the league for the next 11 seasons. He won back-to-back Championships in 1958 and 1959. His 1958 Championship victory is often considered "the greatest game ever played," and was also the first overtime game in NFL history. In 1964, he again led the Colts to the Championship, but he lost to the Cleveland Browns, who had the dominant RB Jim Brown. Unitas's arm was destroyed during the 1968 pre-season, and backup QB Earl Morrall led the Colts to the SB against Joe Namath's Jets. Unitas, supposedly healed, shared QB-ing duties with Morrall, playing half the game, but the underdog Jets upset Unitas and the Colts. The next season, Unitas was back in charge, but had the worst season of his career as he threw only 12 TDs to 20 INTs, as he was likely still injured. In 1970, the now 37-year-old Unitas battled injuries again to win 10 games as starter and a SB victory+SB MVP against the Dallas Cowboys. Despite his ability to orchestrate victories in 1970, it was clear that he was no longer the god-like Unitas of 1957-1967. In 1971, injuries forced Unitas to split time with Morrall again, but together they led the Colts to the AFC Championship, although they lost to the Dolphins. Part-way through 1972, the 39-year-old Unitas was benched after going 1-4. In 1973, he was traded to the Chargers where he had his worst season ever, primarily because the team was terrible and injuries had restricted Unitas's ability to play football. Unitas was the most famous QB in NFL history at the time of his retirement. He also led the league in 4th quarter comebacks and/or game winning drives in 8 seasons, which is phenomenal. He was the first QB ever to throw for 40,000+ yards, and he did so with fewer games in a season and before the era of passer-friendly offenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 #5: Joe Montana Primary Team: San Francisco 49ers Born in Pennsylvania College: Notre Dame 3rd round pick in 1979 x2 MVP x3 First Team All-Pro x4 Super Bowl winner (SB MVP x3) x9 top three in comp%, leading the league five times. x5 top three in Low INT%, once leading the league x4 top three in QB Rating, twice leading the league x4 won 75% of team's games x3 top three in AYA, once leading the league x2 top three in TD%, twice leading the league x2 led league in TDs When I was a kid Montana was the tier 1 QB, while Marino, Elway, Kelly, etc., were tier 2. Montana was unstoppable. He was a 3rd round draft pick by the 49ers, having fallen in the draft because of a supposed weak army and an average college performance (had 25 TDs to 25 INTs for his career). He backup QB Steve DeBerg his rookie season, but in the middle of 1980, he replaced DeBerg and led the league in comp%. In 1981, his first full season as starter, he won the SB. In 1983, he got to the NFC Championship but lost, but the next season, in 1984, he won the SB again. In 1985, the great WR Jerry Rice joined the team. However, it wasn't until 1988 that they got to the SB, when they won. 1989 was Montana's greatest season, as he passed for over 70% completion and over 112 QB Rating, both considered godly numbers at that time. Furthermore, Montana won his 4th and final SB. At this point, he was considered the greatest QB ever. It appeared they would go to the SB again in 1990, but they lost to the Giants in the Championship game. From 1991-1992 (with the exception of 1 game in 1992), Montana was injured with a career-threatening elbow injury he sustained in the preseason. While injured, backup Steve Young, who won the MVP that year, took the 49ers to the Championship, although they lost to the Cowboys. This created such a rivalry in the locker room that Montana requested a trade, even though the owner was expecting to keep Montana and trade Young. At age 37, Montana was traded to the Chiefs, where he played his final two seasons. While he didn't put up the pre-injury numbers, he did win games. In 1993, his first season with the Chiefs and his first real playing time in two years, he took the Chiefs to the AFC Championship (lost). Montana and Rice are probably the #1 QB-WR duo in NFL history. Had Montana not had that major injury, one wonders if he'd have two more Super Bowl wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilight Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Montana was the first beneficiary of the West Coast offense, which raises completion percentages with quick, horizontal passes. It completely revolutionized football. Every NFL team and most college and below teams use at least some of the Walsh philosophy. Watching games from the 70's and earlier can be very disorienting to modern viewers accustomed to faster developing plays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 #4: Aaron Rodgers Primary Team: Green Bay Packers Born in California College: California 24th overall pick in 2005 x4 MVP x4 First Team All-Pro x1 Super Bowl Winner + SB MVP x9 top three in Low INT%, leading the league 6 times x7 top three in TD%, leading the league 4 times x7 top three in AYA, leading the league 3 times x6 top three in QB Rating, leading the league 4 times x5 won 75% of team's games x4 top three in comp%, once leading the league x2 led league in TDs Rodgers has almost 500 TD passes and still has not reached 100 INTs. In 2005, he was drafted by the Packers, where he backed up QB Brett Favre for three years. In 2008, they traded Favre and kept Rodgers, even though Favre brought them to the NFC Championship in 2007. Rodgers was immediately good as a starter (28 TDs), but the team only went 6-10, and more than 15% of his career INTs occurred in 2008. In 2010, Rodgers won the SB against the Steelers and won the SB MVP. While his greatest statistical years were ahead of him, he never got to the SB again. In 2011, he threw for an unbelievable 122.5 QB Rating because of a 45 TD to 6 INT season. In 2014, he took the Packers to the NFC Championship, but they lost to the Seahawks. Again, he got to the NFC Championship in 2016, but they lost to the Falcons. In 2019, he went to the NFC Championship yet again, but lost to the 49ers, and repeated this in 2020, when he lost this 2nd consecutive Championship game to the Buccaneers. He also threw for a 121.5 QB Rating with 48 TDs to only 5 INTs that season. In 2021, he won his 4th MVP award. Rodgers is also very mobile, rushing for over 3,000 yards in his career for 34 TDs. If he has any weakness, it's that he's liable to get sacked frequently as he has been sacked over 500 times (leading the league twice) and has lost more yards on sacks than he has gained in rushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 #3: Otto Graham Primary Team: Cleveland Browns Born in Illinois College: Northwestern 4th overall pick in 1944 x4 MVP x7 First Team All-Pro x10 Championship Appearances (winning 7+3x MVP, and losing 3) x6 won 75% of team's games x5 top three in comp%, leading the league each time x5 led the league in yards x5 top three in AYA, leading the league 4x x5 top three in QB Rating, leading the league each time x4 top three Low INT%, leading the league each time x3 led the league in TDs x2 top three in TD%, leading the league both times WWII Vet A big part of me thinks Otto Graham is actually the greatest QB in history. He played only 10 seasons and got to the final Championship all 10 times, winning 7 of those times. He is the most successful QB in NFL history. He won over 80% of his regular season games, including one perfect 14-0 season, and he won 75% of his playoff games. He still holds the record for highest winning % for a QB. Graham was drafted in 1944 by the Detroit Lions, but he fought in WWII instead. In 1945, rather than playing football, he played basketball in the forerunner league of the NBA, and won the basketball championship in his only season as a professional basketball player. He then decided to try football and was signed by the Browns in 1946 as a 25-year-old rookie. He quickly won the starting job and went to the Championship game every year of his career. His highest QB Rating in a season was 112.1 in 1946, a season in which the 2nd best QB Rating was 69.8! By today's standards, that 112 would probably be a 140 QB Rating. His QB Rating was the record for a season from 1946 to 1989. In 1950, the AAFC and NFL merged into one league and Graham still won Championships with added competition, including 3 NFL MVP awards. Graham retired at age 34 in 1955 after having considered retiring from the NFL the previous season. In his final season, he won his final MVP award and the Championship. He retired on top. While Graham wasn't particularly mobile, he ran for 44 TDs, which was the record for QBs until it was broken by Cam Newton. Earlier in his career, Graham was also a DB and PR. Graham never had a season in which he wasn't an A+ QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 #2: Peyton Manning Primary Team: Indianapolis Colts & Denver Broncos Born in New Orleans, Louisiana College: Tennessee 1st overall pick in 1998 x5 MVP x7 First Team All-Pro x4 Super Bowl Appearances (2 wins+1 SB MVP, 2 losses) x11 won 75% of team's games x10 top three in comp%, twice leading the league x6 top three in AYA, once leading the league x6 top three in QB Rating, thrice leading the league x5 top three in TD%, once leading the league x4 led league in TDs x3 led league in yards x1 top three in low INT% Skill-wise, Peyton Manning is a greater QB than Tom Brady. I am shocked Peyton Manning didn't win at least 5 Super Bowls. During his time, he won the MVP and First Team All-Pro awards more than any other QB. The son of QB Archie Manning and brother of QB Eli Manning beat out QB Ryan Leaf to be selected 1st overall in 2000. He was a Week 1 starter as a rookie and held the job until a major injury hit him in 2011. Despite the hype, it took him until 2003 to reach the AFC Championship game, where he lost to Tom Brady's Patriots. In 2004, he had his best season, when he threw 49 TDs for a 121.1 QB Rating. In 2006, he took the Colts to the SB, beating the Bears and winning the SB MVP. In 2009, he got to the SB again, but they lost to the Saints. In the preseason of 2011, Manning injured his neck and missed the season, which caused the Colts to win only 2 games. As the Colts drafted QB Andrew Luck with the first pick in 2012, they released Peyton Manning, who was then signed by the Broncos. Despite missing 2011, his first season with the Broncos saw him lead the league in Comp% and achieve a 105.8 QB Rating, his highest since 2004. The next year, 2013, he broke the record for most TDs and most yards in a season with 55 TDs and 5,400+ yards respectively. Additionally, he took the Broncos to the SB, but they lost to the Seahawks. During his final season at age 39, in 2015, he was extremely hard to watch. He played in only 9 regular season games because of injury and threw 17 INTs to only 9 TDs, his worst season ever. Despite this, he went 7-2 when paying and he led the Broncos to a SB victory over the Panthers, after having previously defeated Tom Brady in the AFC Championship. At the time of his retirement, Manning had just about every major passing record. While not mobile, he ran for 18 TDs and he also led the league in lowest sack% 5 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 #1: Tom Brady Primary Team: New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers Born in California College: Michigan 6th round pick in 2000 x3 MVP x3 First Team All-Pro x10 Super Bowl appearances (7 wins + 5 SB MVPs, 3 losses) x13 won 75% of team's games x5 top three in low INT%, leading the league 4x x5 led the league in TDs x4 lead the league in yards x4 top three in AYA, twice leading the league x4 top three in QB Rating, twice leading the league x3 top three in TD%, twice leading the league Brady is the greatest QB ever by virtue of winning the most SBs and having the most SB appearances by a large margin. His career record in the regular season, as of this post, is 245-73. Strangely, Brady wasn't drafted until the 6th round, as he didn't particularly stand out in college or during the NFL Combine. Coach Bill Belicheck liked Brady's potential enough that he decided to keep 4 QBs on the roster for the 2000 season, with Brady as that 4th QB on the depth chart. As such, he threw the ball only 3 times, but he did get promoted to become QB Drew Bledsoe's backup by year's end. In 2001, Bledsoe was knocked out with a serious injury in week 2, and Brady played so well that he kept the starting job as he went on to win 11 games and defeat Kurt Warner's Rams in the SB. He won the SB again in 2003 and in 2004. In 2006, he lost in the AFC Championship to Peyton Manning's Colts. In 2007, he had his best season of his career, as his Patriots went 16-0 in the regular season, and he threw 50 TDs for a 117.2 QB rating, thanks to the help of WR Randy Moss who caught about half of those TDs. Unfortunately, Brady lost the SB in one of the greatest upsets in NFL history as Eli Manning came from behind to defeat Brady and the Patriots. Brady missed most of 2008 because of a serious injury in week 1. In 2011, he threw for over 5,000 yards for the first time and made it to the SB again, but again, lost a close game against Eli Manning's Giants. The next year, in 2012, he got to the AFC Championship, but he lost to the Ravens. In 2013, he got to the Championship again, but he was defeated by Peyton Manning and the Broncos. In 2014, running into no Mannings along the way, he was able to get to the SB again, when he defeated the Seahawks. However, the following year, he was defeated by Peyton Manning and the Broncos in the AFC Championship again. The next year, 2016, Brady defeated the Falcons in the SB. However, in 2017, he and the Patriots were upset in the SB when backup QB Nick Foles led the Eagles to victory. Brady made up for it in 2018 by defeating the Rams in the SB that year. In 2020, after 20 seasons with the Patriots, the 43-year-old Brady opted to sign with the Buccaneers rather than resign with the Patriots. He likely wanted to prove he could win without Coach Belicheck, and this he did, as he won the SB with his first season with a new team, becoming the oldest starting QB to win a SB. Additionally, he had his best statistical season in 10 years, as he showed no signs of age. Brady, now 45 years old, is playing what could be his final season. Two other facets of his game are overlooked. One, he has 27 rushing TDs despite not being mobile. Secondly, while he fumbled about as much as the average QB during his first six seasons, since then, he's rarely fumbled, including only twice in 2012, which is unheard of for a QB. Brady currently holds most passing records as he's played 23 years of football. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 @A man from Colorado @Arkansas Progressive @Beetlejuice @Bloot911 @bradleyg223 @Cal @carbonmonoxide321 @Cenzonico @ConservativeElector2 @DakotaHale @Dobs @Edouard @Entrecampos @Fbarbarossa @Hestia @Ich_bin_Tyler @Ishan @jnewt @jvikings1 @Kitten @Lars @Mark_W @mark2 @matthewyoung123 @MrPotatoTed @OrangeP47 @Patine @pilight @Pringles @Rezi @Rodja @Sean F Kennedy @ShortKing @SilentLiberty @The Blood @themiddlepolitical @Timur @vcczar @Vicx @Vols21 @Willthescout7 @WVProgressive @Zenobiyl and anyone else. I'm finally done with the QB Rankings. At some point I might break all this information down. I want to highlight #3 Otto Graham because he's someone even most NFL fans have never heard of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 After last week and last night, I am prepared to say that Jacoby Brissett is a future top 10 QB. No I will not elaborate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 Here's the top 100 by birth state: Dark Blue = 6+ QBs Medium Blue = 5 QBs Light Blue = 4 Light Red = 3 Mediume Red = 2 Dark Red = 1 No color = 0 The top 100 comes from basically only half the states. California and Pennsylvania had the most, possibly 25% of the top 100 combined. Texas is 3rd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 8/30/2022 at 5:25 PM, vcczar said: #98: Joe Burrow Primary team: Cincinnati Bengals Born in Iowa College: LSU 1st overall pick in 2020. Plays chess Won Comeback Player of the Year after having been injured during his rookie season. His first full season saw him take his team to the Super Bowl (he lost) and being one of the most efficient QBs of the season. The Bengals have flamed out with most of their post-Boomer Esiason rookie QBs, but Burrow is obviously superior to Carson Palmer, Andy Dalton, and Akili Smith. I actually didn't think he'd live up to his 1st overall draft pick status, and his rookie injury had seemed to confirm to me that he'd be the next Sam Bradford. However, I was wrong. I don't expect Burrow to be a Brady, Peyton Manning, or Rodgers, but I could see him as Brett Favre-type. That is, willing to take risks to take the team to the next level. One worrying sign is that he led the NFL in getting sacked (51 times) and in losing yards to sacks (370 yards lost). Nevertheless, I now predict that he'll be close to the middle of this top 100 list fairly soon. this is aging very poorly very quickly, but if you like Burrow or the Bengals you can at least hope this week 3 game is the start of a return to form me personally if I had to put a young QB like that on there I'd go with somebody like Allen but eh, whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, mark2 said: this is aging very poorly very quickly, but if you like Burrow or the Bengals you can at least hope this week 3 game is the start of a return to form me personally if I had to put a young QB like that on there I'd go with somebody like Allen but eh, whatever Burrow got to the SB. Allen hasn’t. But Allen could surpass Burrow this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, vcczar said: Burrow got to the SB. Allen hasn’t. But Allen could surpass Burrow this year. the question is how much of that SB run you place on Burrow, particularly considering historically Allen has been a better playoff QB than Burrow was on that run, less efficiency but more yards per game, more TDs per game, fewer ints overall, and that's not mentioning Allen's running ability in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 8 hours ago, mark2 said: the question is how much of that SB run you place on Burrow, particularly considering historically Allen has been a better playoff QB than Burrow was on that run, less efficiency but more yards per game, more TDs per game, fewer ints overall, and that's not mentioning Allen's running ability in the playoffs. I just punch in numbers in an algorithm. Burrow scored higher. Burrow was in the SB. Allen was not. Burrow also led the league in comp% and in AYA, so he gets points for that too. Probably points elsewhere. I’m not on my computer right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 hours ago, vcczar said: I just punch in numbers in an algorithm. Burrow scored higher. Burrow was in the SB. Allen was not. Burrow also led the league in comp% and in AYA, so he gets points for that too. Probably points elsewhere. I’m not on my computer right now. I understand the algorithm, I was simply coming at this from a more detached, "human" perspective, which is why I implied moving someone in for someone else to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, mark2 said: I understand the algorithm, I was simply coming at this from a more detached, "human" perspective, which is why I implied moving someone in for someone else to begin with. I understand that. I’d rather have Josh Allen as my QB than Burrow also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvikings1 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 11:06 PM, vcczar said: Here's the top 100 by birth state: Dark Blue = 6+ QBs Medium Blue = 5 QBs Light Blue = 4 Light Red = 3 Mediume Red = 2 Dark Red = 1 No color = 0 The top 100 comes from basically only half the states. California and Pennsylvania had the most, possibly 25% of the top 100 combined. Texas is 3rd. No surprise to see the traditional football recruiting grounds high up on the list of successful QBs. Florida is the only state known for football to be a little lower (but still higher up in general) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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