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AMPU Terminology Change Poll  

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  1. 1. Which date system is preferable?

    • Biden is now in the half-term 2020-2022 [This adjustment won't lead to any major overhaul]
      15
    • Biden is now in the half-term 2021-2023 [This will require a lot of adjustments]
      5
    • I have no strong opinion either way [I'll automatically pool you into option #1 since both me and MrPotatoTed prefer it]
      5

  2. 2. We have Military Expertise and Military Skill (or should it be called ability?). Anyway....

    • Keep both as military
      10
    • Change the ability/skill as Martial and keep the expertise as Military.
      11
    • Other
      4

  3. 3. Egghead is typically someone that is an expert or a bureaucrat

    • Keep the term egghead
      12
    • Change the term to Policy Wonk
      13
    • Other
      0

  4. 4. Low Brow is the opposite of Policy Wonk. (i.e. someone that dislikes experts and bureaucrats and opts for instinct and experience)

    • keep the term low brow
      9
    • Change the term to Commoner
      4
    • Change the term to Uneducated
      2
    • Change the term to Basic
      1
    • Change the term to Ignorant
      0
    • Change the term to Unscholarly
      3
    • Change the term to Anti-Wonk
      3
    • Other
      3

  5. 5. Cop is a trait for someone specially atune at handling the Attorney General position specifically. It's opposite is illicit, who is someone that would break the law to enforce the law or break the law through incompetence at this specific job.

    • Change Cop to Lawful [I lean towards this one]
      18
    • Change Cop to Virtuous
      2
    • Change Cop to Moral
      0
    • Keep it as it is
      4
    • Other
      1

  6. 6. We have Agriculture as both an expertise and industry. We also have the lobby Big Agriculture

    • Keep Big Agriculture as the name of the lobby
      6
    • Change it to Farmer [Note: I dislike this one as the lobby is supposed to focus more on mass-scale farming and plantation owners in the old days]
      0
    • Change the Industry to Farming, Expertise to Farms, and keep the lobby as Big Agriculture
      11
    • Keep it as it is
      6
    • Other -- please suggest names for the three concepts above.
      2

  7. 7. We have Oil & Gas as an industry, Energy for expertise, and Big Oil & Gas for the lobby

    • Change the industry to Natural Gas and keep the rest.
      5
    • Keep everything as it is
      18
    • Other
      2

  8. 8. We have Civil Rights (interest) and Human Rights (lobby) -- the former is specific for black rights while the latter is for international human rights -- Rwanda in the 1990s, Polish Jews in WWII, Mexicans in detainment in the 21st century

    • Keep them Both
      21
    • Change Human Rights to Humanist Lobby
      3
    • Other
      1

  9. 9. Should Command, Legis, Gov, Judicial, Admin, etc be called Skills or Abilities?

    • I think saying, "Donald Trump has 3 Command Skill" sounds better
      10
    • I think saying, "Donald Trump has 3 Command Ability" sounds better
      15
    • Other
      0

  10. 10. Any other name change ideas?


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10centjimmy

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2. I'm fine with martial as the "skill", but also could like Military as skill, and "Arms & Armor" or "Warplanning" as experience. 

4. Meant to pick "Commoner", but also thought of "Uninformed"

6. Industry: Agrifood; Experience: Agriculture; Lobby: Rural-Agroindustrial Complex or Big Agriculture 

7. Industry: Petrochemical; experience: Energy; Lobby: Big Oil & Gas

 

 

 

 

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MrPotatoTed

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I've always disagreed with having both "Military" and "Naval" expertise, when the Navy is part of the military.  If you really feel the need to have both, I'd change Military expertise to Army.  

I'm still struggling to find the right word for "not a wonk".  It shouldn't be a super negative word. Populist is the closest, but that's already an ideology thing.  "Someone you could have a beer with" is too long.  I might be wandering too far outside the box, but I think the opposite of a wonk is charisma.  They don't know what they're talking about, but they sound good saying it.  This would make wonk synonymous with uncharismatic...I can't think of anyone who is both a wonk and super charismatic.  I could think of people who are both not a wonk and not charismatic, but they aren't likely to inspire many followers and get far in politics.  This is assuming one thinks of Trump as charismatic.  I hate him, and would never have a beer with him, but obviously his followers feel differently.  They're not following him because he's "ignorant."  They're following him because "he tells it like it is, he says what we're all thinking!" (ignorant things.)  Ha.  I can't find the right word for that yet.

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MrPotatoTed

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1 minute ago, ShortKing said:

Obama strikes me as someone who was fairly wonky while also being charismatic

I'm not sure that I would call Obama a wonk.  I don't mean to say he was a Trumpesque anti-wonk.  Just that his wonkiness was about on average with other politicians of his era -- and therefore he wouldn't have wonk or anti-wonk.  He stood out because of charisma, not because he was a super-nerd like Hillary Clinton.

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vcczar

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@MrPotatoTed I completely disagree with your use of the word charisma for anti-wonk, but most of your other points are good. 

My main reason for dividing navy and army is so that historical naval officers are win the navy and historical generals are generals. That’s the only reason. I’m not okay with making it random (any military can be either). 

Skeptic is a good idea but I think intellectuals can be skeptic. Religious skeptic, for instance. Maybe anti-intellectual? Outsider? Instinctual? Experiential? 
 

 

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MrPotatoTed

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4 minutes ago, vcczar said:

@MrPotatoTed I completely disagree with your use of the word charisma for anti-wonk, but most of your other points are good. 

My main reason for dividing navy and army is so that historical naval officers are win the navy and historical generals are generals. That’s the only reason. I’m not okay with making it random (any military can be either). 

Skeptic is a good idea but I think intellectuals can be skeptic. Religious skeptic, for instance. Maybe anti-intellectual? Outsider? Instinctual? Experiential? 

I could see outsider, perhaps.  Though I still like skeptical more, outsider could maybe work.  (Can a wonk be an outsider?  Probably.  Our Secretaries of Energy have traditionally been extremely intelligent specialists with no political involvement/ambition).

Sure, like I said, I'd change Military expertise to Army.  

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vcczar

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Just now, MrPotatoTed said:

I could see outsider, perhaps.  Though I still like skeptical more, outsider could maybe work.  (Can a wonk be an outsider?  Probably.  Our Secretaries of Energy have traditionally been extremely intelligent specialists with no political involvement/ambition).

Sure, like I said, I'd change Military expertise to Army.  

Maybe Land & Air? I have it as military to encompass all that is not naval. 

good point on outsider. I guess I’ll keep thinking on this one. Skeptic is close but I think I’m looking for something that leans more to anti-intellectual. 

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4 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said:

Anti-Wonk:  Authentic?

Not that a wonk can't literally be authentic (they're probably more authentic than someone who's just making it up as they go along.)  But an anti-wonk SEEMS more authentic, able to connect more with the average voter on a  personal level?

My ideas for this: 

Simplistic. 

Shallow.

Oversimplifier.

Reductionist. 

 

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