vcczar Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 The rankings below are ordered chronologically. Forum Rank is how they ranked when the 21 individual forum rankings were averaged together. I then used the Carter through Biden rankings to determine which rankers were more friendly towards Democrats and which were more friendly towards Republicans. The Blue Rank is the ranking among Democrat-friendly rankers and the Red Rank is the ranking among Republican-friendly rankers. The Balanced Party Rank is when I averaged these two rankings equally. We had more Blue Rankings than Red Rankings, so this shows what the ranking might have looked like if this forum didn't lean Liberal. For these party rankings, I had exclude rankings by those who were exactly even between Democrats and Republicans. Their ranking is included only in the Forum Rank. Four rankers were Pres Forum Rank Balanced Party Rank Red Rank Blue Rank Notes Washington 3 2 1 4 Adams, J 21 27 32 18 Disliked more by R Jefferson 7 5 3 13 Slavery likely hurt him among B Madison 18 12 7 21 Same as w/ Jefferson Monroe 19 9 8 19 Same as w/ Jefferson and Madison Adams, JQ 23 25 30 16 Wannabe antebellum FDR liked by B Jackson 36 38 33 38 Disliked by everyone Van Buren 34 37 35 34 ditto Harrison, WH 31 29 25 26 Tyler 41 41 39 40 Polk 15 13 13 17 Taylor 27 33 28 27 Fillmore 37 35 29 36 Pierce 43 42 41 42 Buchanan 45 45 45 45 Consensus worst pres Lincoln 1 1 2 1 almost consensus best pres Johnson, A 44 44 44 44 Grant 11 6 15 10 Probably liked by B and R for different reasons Hayes 26 30 23 28 Garfield 29 18 20 20 Arthur 24 28 26 25 Cleveland 30 26 17 31 Quasi-Libertarian draws partisan response Harrison, B 28 23 18 24 In many ways, I'd think B should have liked him more McKinley 22 15 9 29 B turned off by Imperialistic, pro-industrialist nature Roosevelt, T 2 4 14 2 R reluctant acceptance of FDR precursor Taft 17 8 12 15 Wilson 38 39 42 32 21st century thought has ripped Wilson and Jackson to shreds. Harding 40 40 36 39 Coolidge 13 10 5 22 Likely liked by B and R for totally different reasons Hoover 35 36 31 35 Roosevelt, FD 4 7 24 3 Expected partisan reaction Truman 9 11 19 9 Eisenhower 5 3 6 6 Was moderate enough to warrant few objections Kennedy 10 14 21 11 Johnson, LB 6 22 37 5 Second most partisan reaction. A god for B and a devil for R; The Democratic Reagan. Nixon 33 34 22 33 Nixon improves now that Trump is the new Nixon. Ford 20 17 16 23 Carter 16 32 40 14 Partisan response. B overlooks the economics for integrity and environmental vision. Reagan 32 21 4 37 Most partisan reaction. A god for R; devil for B; The GOP LBJ. Bush, GHW 25 19 10 30 Probably wouldn't rank as high for R if Trump never existed. Clinton 12 16 27 12 Bush, GW 39 31 11 41 See my notes for his dad. Obama 8 20 34 7 Expected partisan result Trump 42 43 43 43 Consensus: a failure according to both B and R. No way he beats Biden in 2024. Could lose primary. Biden 14 24 38 8 Expected partisan result, roughly equal to Obama. Note: He's just behind Obama in B rank and in the top 10. He's only 4 behind Obama for R. Right about in the middle for Balanced Rank. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted November 6, 2022 Author Share Posted November 6, 2022 Crazy to think that from about 1892-2008 that Grant was considered one of the worst presidents. He's really rebounded. Generally the rebounds occur about 10 years after a presidency when they happen, it seems. 21st century has changed rankings regarding Grant, Jackson, and Wilson the most. I think post-Trump, Harding and Nixon will be reevaluated. I expect LBJ to go up once personal memory of the Vietnam War fades. Both Bushes will rise post-Trump. Basically, Trump is so bad he's going to raise four presidents in their rankings for not being as bad as Trump. I think JFK might actually fall once personal memory of him fades, mainly because he had almost zero legislative accomplishments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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