vcczar Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 My history observing Nancy Pelosi has been kind of mixed. While I did prefer her as Speaker to a GOP Speaker, she was just too establishment--too cautious--for the kind of leader I prefer. I tend to seek some sort of person with big ideas, someone like Newt Gingrich but Democrat. That said, I found her handling of Trump during his administration quite admirable. She skillfully orchestrated the 2018 Blue Wave and the helped in converting the 2022 from a possible Red Wave into a Red Drop. History will remember her as not just the first woman Speaker but also as one of the major Speakers in history. I'd argue she's the most important since Gingrich. I hope the next Democratic Speaker will be equal as a strategist but more bold in ideas. It will be interesting who Democrats select to replace he as she's sort of been this figure--sort of like Hillary Clinton, McConnell, or Trump--who is a kind of lightning rod for the opposition. One just has to put her face in an ad and it's rouses Republicans to vote. Will the next Speaker be the same? They could pick someone really classy and likable and authentic. That would deflate some opposition. I got a feeling it could be someone like Hakeem Jeffries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Speaker Pelosi was without a doubt one of the most powerful House Speakers of recent memory - and indeed, maybe American history. On knife-edge numbers, she skillfully wielded power and got everything to the finish line. The line "she'll never bring anything to the floor that won't pass" wasn't just a saying - it was truth. I'd argue she was more powerful than Gingrich for sure, and as deft at counting votes as some of the best speakers of the US. She'll never be extremely popular due to the nature of the job itself, but she served this country admirably and for many years. Below is a tweet I saw earlier that showed it crystal clear why she was so effective. She understood that she didn't have to be popular - she didn't want to be. Pelosi told her colleagues to attack her on the stump if it helped their re-election. I'm glad she's been our House Democratic leader for years and hope whoever fills her shoes can step into them with time. And And an article about how she saved Obamacare when everyone else was ready to give up: https://theintercept.com/2018/11/20/nancy-pelosi-obamacare-democrats/. Truly a Democratic powerhouse like no other in recent memory. Edited November 17, 2022 by Hestia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3740181-hoyer-to-step-out-of-leadership-role-clearing-way-for-jeffries/ Now that Houer, and Clyburn have stepped aside, it likely will be Jeffries who succeeds her. The dream of Speaker Clyburn is dead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, Hestia said: Speaker Pelosi was without a doubt one of the most powerful House Speakers of recent memory - and indeed, maybe American history. On knife-edge numbers, she skillfully wielded power and got everything to the finish line. The line "she'll never bring anything to the floor that won't pass" wasn't just a saying - it was truth. I'd argue she was more powerful than Gingrich for sure, and as deft at counting votes as some of the best speakers of the US. She'll never be extremely popular due to the nature of the job itself, but she served this country admirably and for many years. Below is a tweet I saw earlier that showed it crystal clear why she was so effective. She understood that she didn't have to be popular - she didn't want to be. Pelosi told her colleagues to attack her on the stump if it helped their re-election. I'm glad she's been our House Democratic leader for years and hope whoever fills her shoes can step into them with time. And And an article about how she saved Obamacare when everyone else was ready to give up: https://theintercept.com/2018/11/20/nancy-pelosi-obamacare-democrats/. Truly a Democratic powerhouse like no other in recent memory. Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Schumer and McConnell need to go next. Haven't decided on Kevin yet. Tim Ryan should have stayed as a rep. Would have loved to see him as House Speaker/Dem House leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Can't wait for them to replace her with a young, energized, 67-year-old congressman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: Can't wait for them to replace her with a young, energized, 67-year-old congressman. Yeah, can't believe Ronald Reagan's inaugural year as president would be considered his youth by today's standards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 45 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: Can't wait for them to replace her with a young, energized, 67-year-old congressman. Wdym its gonna be a young whippersnapper 52 year old! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 7:04 PM, Hestia said: Wdym its gonna be a young whippersnapper 52 year old! 52! This means Jeffries will have 30 years to lead the caucus 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Seems as though the chosen leaders are Jeffries, Kathy Clark, and Pete Aguilar. Democrats from NY, CT, and CA respectively. You know, I wish that once, just once, Democrats would pick leadership that didn't just scream coastal elite. Why not throw Michigan or Colorado Dems a bone after their performance this year? I just don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rezi said: Seems as though the chosen leaders are Jeffries, Kathy Clark, and Pete Aguilar. Democrats from NY, CT, and CA respectively. You know, I wish that once, just once, Democrats would pick leadership that didn't just scream coastal elite. Why not throw Michigan or Colorado Dems a bone after their performance this year? I just don't get it. I agree. I think they pick these places because 1) they can do their leadership jobs and not have to worry about losing an election and 2) these are typically major fundraising centers. For election purposes, I’d like to see TX, FL, and GA in the leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, vcczar said: I agree. I think they pick these places because 1) they can do their leadership jobs and not have to worry about losing an election and 2) these are typically major fundraising centers. For election purposes, I’d like to see TX, FL, and GA in the leadership. Democrats did handsomely statewide in PA. I would go with a notable PA Dem if there are any 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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