vcczar Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, jnewt said: Are there limits to which countries we could possibly go to war with? Or is it just the major countries plus countries we have historically gone to war with? Obviously, we've historically gone to war with some minor countries, like Vietnam. In an alternate history, maybe we would have ended up in a war in, say Ethiopia. Is something like that possible? 1 minute ago, Bushwa777 said: You dont have everything memorized? Well why not? 3 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: I’m sure there are instances of that, I know V added some ahistorical paths. I don’t have every possibility memorized though and neither does he. You could always poke around in the scripted events file if you’re interested. I don't have my own game memorized either, but this could potentially be accurate: One can go to war with any nation in which there is an ambassador. One can go to war with their own nation. One can go to war against nations we historically went to war with, including native tribes. One can go to war for expansion in Central and South America. In the Era of the Future, there are numerous wars, many of these are based on a book that both me and @MrPotatoTed read by George Friedman (I was almost hired by him, by the way). This means the US will be at war with or allied with nations such as Poland, who are not usually an option for war. There are also hypothetical states, such as a fragmented China or Russia. I can forsee a DLC that will add more ambassadors and more possibilities for war, but that's way down the road. I have so many DLC options in so many different areas of the game, that I'm wondering if the DLC will just be AMPU 2, hopefully by Paradox. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewt Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, vcczar said: In the Era of the Future, there are numerous wars, many of these are based on a book that both me and @MrPotatoTed read by George Friedman (I was almost hired by him, by the way). This means the US will be at war with or allied with nations such as Poland, who are not usually an option for war. There are also hypothetical states, such as a fragmented China or Russia. I read this as well (after his many comments about it on here and the old forum, I had to). I just did a quick CTRL-F search of the events file for "war" but there were over 1600 hits, though I did notice a lot of events resembling those in that book, as well as reference to a Lebanese War, which would also be very interesting and the type of thing I was hoping for. Thanks for the explanation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Bushwa777 said: You dont have everything memorized? Well why not? Because I have a career, a family, and a ton of grad school classes right now, in addition to other time consuming hobbies, and I don’t get paid for any of this. I’ve been a volunteer for like four years because I love this, but it also changes almost every day, so literally no one including the creator has it all memorized. You’re welcome to become the person who memorizes every detail of the hundred pages of rules and thousands of events if you’d like, have at it. ;c) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share Posted January 21, 2023 46 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Because I have a career, a family, and a ton of grad school classes right now, in addition to other time consuming hobbies, and I don’t get paid for any of this. I’ve been a volunteer for like four years because I love this, but it also changes almost every day, so literally no one including the creator has it all memorized. You’re welcome to become the person who memorizes every detail of the hundred pages of rules and thousands of events if you’d like, have at it. ;c) It's a joke calm down please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: I’m sure there are instances of that, I know V added some ahistorical paths. I don’t have every possibility memorized though and neither does he. You could always poke around in the scripted events file if you’re interested. There's actually the war chart file as well which lists something like 300 possible wars, that's probably easier to digest for the purposes of this question. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander-Nicholas Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, OrangeP47 said: There's actually the war chart file as well which lists something like 300 possible wars, that's probably easier to digest for the purposes of this question. out of curiosity, how does one get access to this chat. id love to read it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Alexander-Nicholas said: out of curiosity, how does one get access to this chat. id love to read it You have to be a playtester with access to the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 15 hours ago, OrangeP47 said: There's actually the war chart file as well which lists something like 300 possible wars, that's probably easier to digest for the purposes of this question. True, but it won’t answer the question. Some of the wars on the war chart are generic catch-alls to cover any wars that don’t get their own special chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, MrPotatoTed said: True, but it won’t answer the question. Some of the wars on the war chart are generic catch-alls to cover any wars that don’t get their own special chart. Eh I'd say it's semantics, are generic wars any less real because they are generic? It's an unknowable question best left to philosophers because by definition any war that happens IRL is not generic because it actually happened, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Eh I'd say it's semantics, are generic wars any less real because they are generic? It's an unknowable question best left to philosophers because by definition any war that happens IRL is not generic because it actually happened, haha. Ha, I meant that the question was about what countries you can have a war with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Another question. In the playtests we have access to the google sheets which show us meters and/or which parties will do well on laws. Will the game have this so we can click and show us the current meters or we can click and with each law it will give us basic info saying that this type of faction will benefit and so on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Bushwa777 said: Another question. In the playtests we have access to the google sheets which show us meters and/or which parties will do well on laws. Will the game have this so we can click and show us the current meters or we can click and with each law it will give us basic info saying that this type of faction will benefit and so on? Hopefully. At this time, that part hasn't been created within the actual software to my knowledge, and the person who is creating it isn't on here. So while we can certainly say that's our hope/plan, we can't realistically describe in too much detail what the actual interface will be as that's all in the works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 Besides assassination which would come as an event, when random death rolls happen is it possible to have president die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, Bushwa777 said: Besides assassination which would come as an event, when random death rolls happen is it possible to have president die? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm1145 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 In the game will there be any metrics that will show the state of the country? Such as unemployment rate, poverty, crime stats, GDP etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, lm1145 said: In the game will there be any metrics that will show the state of the country? Such as unemployment rate, poverty, crime stats, GDP etc.. There are "meters" which are metrics, but abstractions. Hard, real world statistics currently aren't really worked out, but in a few playtests at times we've done "back of the napkin" math of estimate such figures. I greatly enjoy running the census in 1840 playtest, so I've been giving national population figures, but that's about as close as you'd get at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, lm1145 said: In the game will there be any metrics that will show the state of the country? Such as unemployment rate, poverty, crime stats, GDP etc.. As Orange said, there are meters which are a sliding scale where things are amazing on one end and crises/disasters on the other. Some of the crises/disasters can be game-ending if not addressed quickly. Off the top of my head, the meters are budget, economic stability, military preparedness, domestic stability, global health (climate), meters to show our relations with a variety of countries, meters to show which way various ideologies are leaning, and party popularity. I may have missed one or two, that’s just off top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I’ve seen Quality of Life, but out of everything I’ve read, it amusingly seems to be the least important 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Euri said: I’ve seen Quality of Life, but out of everything I’ve read, it amusingly seems to be the least important It has little importance until about the Progressive Era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Euri said: I’ve seen Quality of Life, but out of everything I’ve read, it amusingly seems to be the least important There's a deep philosophical thought to be had here but I've had too much caffeine tonight to fully produce it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lm1145 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 18 hours ago, OrangeP47 said: There's a deep philosophical thought to be had here but I've had too much caffeine tonight to fully produce it. I think it's more simplistic than you think. To a politician, your quality of life is of the least importance lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, lm1145 said: I think it's more simplistic than you think. To a politician, your quality of life is of the least importance lol I was more thinking about voters voting against their own interests lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 What are the different eras called and what years do each take place in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Bushwa777 said: What are the different eras called and what years do each take place in? Howdy, you're a playtester so I assume you have access to the rules document. It's near the top of 2.1: Faction Re-Alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 6 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: Howdy, you're a playtester so I assume you have access to the rules document. It's near the top of 2.1: Faction Re-Alignment. Duh I'm an idiot thanks potato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.