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1792 Election Poll


WVProgressive

Franklin is retired, but who will succeed him?  

14 members have voted

  1. 1. For President

    • VP Thomas Paine (Radicals)
    • Gov. John Hancock (Republicans)
    • Rep. Alexander Hamilton (Federalists)
  2. 2. For Vice President

    • Sen. Benjamin Rush (Radicals)
    • Gov. Samuel Huntington (Federalists)
    • Gov. George Clinton (Republicans)
  3. 3. For House

  4. 4. For Senate



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The octogenarian President Ben Franklin, already gout stricken, declines to seek a second term, leaving the door to succession wide open, and potentially instilling in America a one term precedent that will be hard to break if the following presidents also hold true to Franklin's precedent. 

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Just now, Patine said:

Wasn't Paine still in France in 1792?

he was, but I decided that since the US veered into an extremely Progressive direction in this alternate history, it would make some kind of sense, and be pretty cool if Paine stayed in America to help further his ideas. I admit, I'm kind of biased since Tom Paine is one of my favorite figures in Early American History, so that may have influenced my decision to have him become a politician rather than go to France to join in the French Revolution.

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Just now, Patine said:

Sorry, who?

He's a mediocre playwright who, for some reason, is celebrated as a theater genius. I mention him here because his musical Hamilton is responsible for the rehabilitation of Alexander Hamilton in the public consciousness.

I mention him here due to the fact he's currently winning the poll by a large margin over a person like Paine, who I assume would be more in line with most forum users actual ideologies than Hamilton, but due to the fact that Miranda was able to take his fan-fic all the way to Broadway, and that Paine has been forgotten other than as the author to Common Sense, people think of Hamilton as this cool, nice, Progressive guy, when in reality he was a power hungry, sex addicted, anti-democratic, pro-business, conservative.

Now that I think of it, I take back my comparison of Hamilton to fan fiction, since there is a large amount of fan-fic that is genuinely good, and well written, and those fan fictions don't deserve to be lumped in with what is, quite possibly, the worst popular musical, maybe ever.

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4 minutes ago, Patine said:

And don't forget the architect of one of the greatest banes of democracy, the will and the people, and government accountability in the U.S. that's been thoroughly exploited keep the rigged Duopoly of today in power despite their monstrous failings, corruption, abuse of power, and criminal tendencies - the Electoral College. And the REAL three reasons for it's existence - NOT "the smaller states and regions prevented from being overwhelmed by the big ones" and other later revisionist crap that many EC apologists crow about today - as a compromise with the Slave States (irrevelent for over 150 years), to keep a populist out of the White House (complete failure as of 2016), and, because Hamilton had the utmost contempt for the competence of the common voter. This guy truly is a villain...

And now he’s president 😳

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43 minutes ago, WVProgressive said:

He's a mediocre playwright who, for some reason, is celebrated as a theater genius. I mention him here because his musical Hamilton is responsible for the rehabilitation of Alexander Hamilton in the public consciousness.

I mention him here due to the fact he's currently winning the poll by a large margin over a person like Paine, who I assume would be more in line with most forum users actual ideologies than Hamilton, but due to the fact that Miranda was able to take his fan-fic all the way to Broadway, and that Paine has been forgotten other than as the author to Common Sense, people think of Hamilton as this cool, nice, Progressive guy, when in reality he was a power hungry, sex addicted, anti-democratic, pro-business, conservative.

Now that I think of it, I take back my comparison of Hamilton to fan fiction, since there is a large amount of fan-fic that is genuinely good, and well written, and those fan fictions don't deserve to be lumped in with what is, quite possibly, the worst popular musical, maybe ever.

Go off queen 

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

 

Why are you two quoting me, as if my lack of comprehension is incomprehensible. I have no idea what @Dobs is talking about, but I am treated like my lack of knowledge of the context of such an odd and out-of-the blue statement is what's bizarre?

I'm just following orders I've received from outside the forum, Patine. 

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15 minutes ago, Patine said:

???

???

(Go off queen is just something that people say to cheer their friends on.)

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

So, no one could simply explain that to me (it's a term I haven't heard before). Everyone has to be a damned ass instead.

??? 

 

 

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*totally not illuminati/freemason secret chat*

"Ensure Hamilton is defeated. Release the virus within a year. Ensure the masses die and flock to new leadership. Ensure the right people vote as well... or else."

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17 minutes ago, Pringles said:

*totally not illuminati/freemason secret chat*

"Ensure Hamilton is defeated. Release the virus within a year. Ensure the masses die and flock to new leadership. Ensure the right people vote as well... or else."

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