Alt States EV Project

[OrangeP47]

50. Quebec
51. Quezon

Quebec is a half and half manufacturing then finance state, not much to say about it.

Quezon is one of those interesting alt-states that actually loses EVs at times.  Seems most of those are in the Philipines.  The events themselves flavor wise aren't anything too special, another state that will require WW2 to reach it's peak, but mechanically behind the scenes it's interesting because EVs will flow away from it eventually not just to it.

[OrangeP47]

52. Rio

Want to give special mention to this one, as it's the first (and probably only) state that really gets the boost to plantation, despite most states in Central America or South America being slave states.  It's really the only one that fits to do via EV events (though of course they can still do it via other means).  It also has some other interesting things going on.

[OrangeP47]

53. Santiago Chile
54. Santo Domingo
55. Sao Paulo

53 - Good mining and manufacturing state, it grows really slowly though.

54 - Did focus on tourism as I do with states in this area, but also made it much more of a generalist than some of the smaller ones, with some defense/maritime focus as well, and even some eco/high tech focus at the end.

55 - To a much higher degree than most other states, made a lot of the events dependent on other events, for example to reach it's full potential requires both the civil war to happen and ww2 to happen, never done both for the same state yet.

[OrangeP47]

56. Saskatchewan
57. Toluca
38. Uruguay

56 - Hard to spell, not much else to note

57 - Spoke too soon, another state that gives EVs early on to other regions.  This is the Mexico City area.

58 - Not much to say.

[OrangeP47]

And done with all states for the alloted timeframe @vcczar

59. Vancouver
60. Venezuela
61. Visayas
62. Yucatan

59 - Self Explanatory if you know it's BC

60 - Wasn't going to, but decided to make it another plantation state, before transitioning it to an oil state

61 - A really nice place to live where rich and poor get along in harmony

62 - An environmental disaster because of deforestation for agriculture.

[theFreezerFlame]

Frankly there should be more Pacific Islands imo.

Mariana Islands (CM)

Samoa (SM)

Micronesia (MC)

Marshall Islands (MH)

Palau (PW)

 

I'd give the states of Australia as potential additions.

New South Wales (NW)

Victoria (VC)

Queensland (QL)

Western Australia (WA)

South Australia (SA)

Tasmania (TS)

Northern Australia (NA)

 

Also add New Zealand because why not

Either admissible as one state, New Zealand (NZ)

Or two, Aotearoa / North Island (AO) and Te Waipounamu / South Island (TW)

 

These are just my suggestions, feel free to exclude if you don't like them.

Edited April 23, 2023 by theFreezerFlame

[OrangeP47]

This is all stuff that is basically too late to change.

[theFreezerFlame]

How so?

[OrangeP47]

It'd require revisions to events, wars, legis, and probably a few other other systems, so it's not like a single change, it'd be changing a lot of things for a small tinker.

[theFreezerFlame]

Understood, but I still think it's kind of weird that territories the United States has IRL, specifically Guam, aren't possible to attain in game.

 

One way I could see the Marianas being in is as an always 3 EV state, that would provide bonuses to Pacific foreign policy legislation and can be used as a military base location. It would have very little industry as IRL it is mostly a military colony. The territory can be acquired from either Spain, Germany, or Japan depending on the era.

Again, just a hypothetical way it could be incorporated into the game. I don't want to seem pushy.

Edited April 24, 2023 by theFreezerFlame

[Imperator Taco Cat]

5 minutes ago, theFreezerFlame said:

Understood, but I still think it's kind of weird that territories the United States has IRL, specifically Guam, aren't possible to attain in game.

You can have them as territories, this is the state thread.

[theFreezerFlame]

1 minute ago, Imperator Taco Cat said:

You can have them as territories, this is the state thread.

So they are possible to acquire but not be states?

[Imperator Taco Cat]

8 minutes ago, theFreezerFlame said:

So they are possible to acquire but not be states?

correct

[theFreezerFlame]

So what other territories are there that can't be states? It seems a bit weird that there would be any places that are impossible to grant statehood despite having ownership of.

[Imperator Taco Cat]

4 minutes ago, theFreezerFlame said:

So what other territories are there that can't be states?

Just the pacific island to my knowledge.

[OrangeP47]

1 hour ago, theFreezerFlame said:

So what other territories are there that can't be states? It seems a bit weird that there would be any places that are impossible to grant statehood despite having ownership of.

The thing is that in general there's a population minimum to become a state IRL and a lot of these places don't meet them, even if they meet them technically for historical reasons they don't meet them for practical purposes in the modern the era, which is why they'd never realistically be states IRL.

[OrangeP47]

For reference, the generally agreed upon min population of a state is 60,000, even though Nevada broke that rule for a long time.  Two of five current real US territories are under that, one is rather close, the one that is clearly over is Puerto Rico which can become a state, and the odd middle ground is Guam which still only has around 150,000 which practically in the modern day and age might not be enough so on the balance would probably be in limbo forever.

[OrangeP47]

1 hour ago, Imperator Taco Cat said:

Just the pacific island to my knowledge.

Technically the Moon and Mars, but they can get EVs via the same method DC can without being a state.  DC can become a state though of course.

[OrangeP47]

Seems like a good place to post this too, but I've created a handy map of where exactly the Philippines States' borders are according to the master documents.