Genealogy RP

[OrangeP47]

1 minute ago, vcczar said:

Actually, I'm going to need to recalculate yours because you caught a mistake on my part. It just won't be today. 

As long as Murr still dies I'm fine.

[vcczar]

The Year 1354, 4 Years Later. All of your characters are now 20 years old.  (CONTINUING)

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@OrangeP47 (redo)

John Younger has been unsuccessful socially his "hideous" trait is making it hard for him to shine outside of work. Fortunately, as a genius, he's pretty much exceeded even William Weaver's ability, although he still lacks the social experience of the work. Weaver will allow John to graduate as an apprentice next year when he's 21. 

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@WVProgressive

Roger Williams as a genius has managed to court Alice Baker, marry her, and excel in his job. Weaver will graduate him in a year, rather than the usual 3-year-period. They court from 1350-1353, longer than most, possibly because Roger needed to balance apprentice work with pleasure, but he was able to keep her from considering other men. They marry in 1353 and have a child this year 1354---a boy! Will you name the boy after yourself (Roger), your wife's father (Alice), your father (William), your grandfather (William), her grandfather (Thomas), the king (Edward), the local lord, the Bishop of Winchester (William)? On top of this, your wife's father would welcome Roger helping out in the bakery if he doesn't like being a weaver. The ceiling for pay isn't nearly as high, but the work is less stressful. 

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@Arkansas Progressive

John Trowbridge has been fighting in France, generally staying around Calais, but once making it as far as Brittany before heading back to defend Calais. He has not yet been part of the major fighting. In fact, he has not seen a battlefield death, although he's seen many die of plague, camp sicknesses, and the such. He keeps himself going by knowing that his basic needs are taken care of in the military, so that he generally saves money. Occasinally, he thinks about returning to Taunton. He finds himself weary of the routine ("Spontanous" trait), but realizes also he would be under more routine as an apprentice somewhere. There's also rumors that major fighting could soon occur. You have the option to decide if he wants to stay in service or return to Taunton. 

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@Ich_bin_Tyler

John Johnson is driving William Weaver nuts. While John has been focusing on work and often seeming as skilled as his master, he also has strong bouts of laziness. Several times Weaver has found John not at work, but gambling the little earnings he makes on cockfighting or cards. However, as a genius, John does rather well playing cards, generally making up any money he loses, if not more. As a giant, it's hard not to miss John when he's trying to slink away from work. Weaver thinks John has the ability to graduate as an apprentice right away, but he needs to learn discipline. Weaver isn't even sure if he'll let John graduate after the usual 7 years. Some argue Weaver doesn't want his giant to leave his service because some people prefer his shop just so they can gawk at the giant. John has "ambitious" so he has the option of seeking work elsewhere, but he may be forced into a less profitable position. 

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@Rezi

Walter Farmer has been defending Calais for his entire 4-year military career. Aside from the spread of general camp disease, he's been in the safest area of the war. He's paid not to risk his life in warfare. However, with the "brave" trait, his eager to fight. Would he have more adventure in Taunton than here? There are rumors of a big fight coming up in France, however. Does Walter stay in France or try to return to Taunton?

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More later

[vcczar]

Sorry, but it's going to be until Friday, most likely before I can finish processing the other players. I think I'll probably start processing each player's moves one at a time after this year 1354 turn. It's just really time-consuming. 

[vcczar]

The Year 1354, 4 Years Later. All of your characters are now 20 years old.  (CONTINUING again)

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@Rodja

Henry Jackson, having failed in attracting any women, is also failing in his apprenticeship, despite focusing on his work. His "lazy" trait is clearly noticed by his employer, William Weaver. On top of this, Jackson's "lustful" trait has played a role, as he's been stalking after women who find him unappealing because of his "ugly" trait. Jackson is becoming something of a pariah. William Weaver is considering letting him go, putting him at the mercy of someone else. As Jackson is "indecisve," he is frozen on any alternatives to this work. Jackson will be lucky if he graduates in the usual 7 years for apprentices. 

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@The Blood

Thomas Walters has been focusing on his work, but he is yet to really impress Henry Lamb, his master. It looks like he'll likely to fulfill the 7-year norm for an apprentice. Despite being "lustful," Walters was able to restrain himself, which saves him from any veneral diseases or illegitmate children. 

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Everyone should look at their writes up for 1354 because some of your summaries require responding. Please read to see if you have anything requiring a decision: @OrangeP47 @matthewyoung123 @Ich_bin_Tyler @WVProgressive @Arkansas Progressive @Rezi @ConservativeElector2. You may not have anything to respond to, but at least half, if not more, do. 

[OrangeP47]

Fairly sure I don't have something to choose but replying anyway.

[matthewyoung123]

17 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

Fairly sure I don't have something to choose but replying anyway.

Same way with my character.  He's not paying tithes as often as he should...but no action seemingly needs to be taken other then he would accept being promoted out of his apprenticeship. 

[Arkansas Progressive]

John Trowbridge will continue his stint in the Army 

[Rezi]

Walter Farmer will remain in France, fighting the good fight.

[WVProgressive]

Roger Williams will name his child after the King of England, and politely turn down his father-in-law's job offer.

[Ich_bin_Tyler]

On 1/25/2023 at 3:32 PM, vcczar said:

The Year 1354, 4 Years Later. All of your characters are now 20 years old.  (CONTINUING)

@Ich_bin_Tyler

John Johnson is driving William Weaver nuts. While John has been focusing on work and often seeming as skilled as his master, he also has strong bouts of laziness. Several times Weaver has found John not at work, but gambling the little earnings he makes on cockfighting or cards. However, as a genius, John does rather well playing cards, generally making up any money he loses, if not more. As a giant, it's hard not to miss John when he's trying to slink away from work. Weaver thinks John has the ability to graduate as an apprentice right away, but he needs to learn discipline. Weaver isn't even sure if he'll let John graduate after the usual 7 years. Some argue Weaver doesn't want his giant to leave his service because some people prefer his shop just so they can gawk at the giant. John has "ambitious" so he has the option of seeking work elsewhere, but he may be forced into a less profitable position. 

If this counts as a decision, I will have John remain working as a weaver despite the potential other work.

[ConservativeElector2]

William Wiltshire will decline his father-in-law's offer to become a watchman and continue as a weaver. He will name the girl Mary. 

Edited January 27, 2023 by ConservativeElector2

[vcczar]

1354 Courtship Options for 20-year-old apprentice Robert Young. 

He has drawn the attention of three women. Does he focus on his profession, or does he take one of these three women:

• Isabella Footman, 25-year-old daughter of veteran soldier Thomas Footman. She is honest, introverted, organized, average build, average height, mentally disabled, frail, and average looks. 
• Margaret Gardner, 22-year-old daughter of William Gardener the Gardener. She is optimistic, creative, organized, average build, average height, genius, average health, and average looks. 
• Margaret Taylor, 17-year-old daughter of Thomas Taylor the Tailor. She is dependent (i.e. needy), humble, puritanical, emaciated, average height, average intelligence, below average health, and hideous. *Thomas Taylor's profession is compatible with yours and could lead to a strong business tie*

These take a while to process, so I'm just going to do one character at a time. @matthewyoung123

 

 

 

[matthewyoung123]

18 minutes ago, vcczar said:

1354 Courtship Options for 20-year-old apprentice Robert Young. 

He has drawn the attention of three women. Does he focus on his profession, or does he take one of these three women:

• Isabella Footman, 25-year-old daughter of veteran soldier Thomas Footman. She is honest, introverted, organized, average build, average height, mentally disabled, frail, and average looks. 
• Margaret Gardner, 22-year-old daughter of William Gardener the Gardener. She is optimistic, creative, organized, average build, average height, genius, average health, and average looks. 
• Margaret Taylor, 17-year-old daughter of Thomas Taylor the Tailor. She is dependent (i.e. needy), humble, puritanical, emaciated, average height, average intelligence, below average health, and hideous. *Thomas Taylor's profession is compatible with yours and could lead to a strong business tie*

These take a while to process, so I'm just going to do one character at a time. @matthewyoung123

Despite the connections that Margaret Taylor may have, Robert Young, weaver's apprentice, will court Margaret Gardner, the Gardener's daughter.  Optimistic, creative, organized, genius...all sound like great qualities.  Plus, she's average health & looks, which is more than I can say for any of the others.

[vcczar]

Sadly because John Younger is "hideous" he hasn't attracted any to court for a relationship. @OrangeP47 He will focus on work. 

Same goes for John Johnson who is "below average." His chances of finding someone are better than John Younger, but he wasn't lucky this time. @Ich_bin_Tyler He will focus on work. 

Henry Jackson, despite being "ugly" attracts one woman in Taunton. Does Henry pursue her or does he focus on work? @Rodja. Here's her info:

• Cecilia Smith, 21-year-old daughter of John Smith the Blacksmith. She is stoic, apolitical, introverted, pudgy, above average height, average intelligence, below average health, and ugly. 

Will do @ConservativeElector2 and @The Blood next whenever I can. 

 

[Rodja]

Henry will pursue romance with Cecilia 

[vcczar]

1354 continues...

@ConservativeElector2 William Wiltshire's first wife died in childbirth. He does have one daughter who is forced to live with her grandparents. Does William find a 2nd wife? The upside is that the child could be moved into his small apprentice room as the wife could watch her. However, William is "ugly" and does not attract any interest at this time, so he is forced to focus on work, whether he wanted to or not.

@The Blood Thomas Walters has attracted one woman. Does he court her or does he focus on his work? Here's her info:

• Isabella Servant, 22-year-old daughter of Thomas Servant a servant at the Bishop of Winchester's manor. She is progressive, rational, depressed, average build, average intelligence, average health, and ugly. 

Up next: The year 1357  Just need @The Blood to respond

[The Blood]

5 hours ago, vcczar said:

@The Blood Thomas Walters has attracted one woman. Does he court her or does he focus on his work? Here's her info:

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Thomas will ignore Isabella, hoping instead to continue serving out his time as an apprentice and honing his skills as a butcher.

[vcczar]

The Year is 1357

All of the living characters are 23 years old.

During the course of the last three years, you've learned of King Edward III's advance into Scotland and ultimately King Edward III suing for peace, allowing the Scottish to stay independent at the price of accepting English overlordship and ransom money to get back their Scottish king. While the victory was Scotlands it is spun as an English victory. 

In regards to news in France, you learn that the King's heir, Edward the Black Prince, led a massive scorched earth policy of France in 1355 and 1356. This ultimately led to the Battle of Poitier, where the Black Prince not only defeated an army more than twice his size, but he also captured the French King John II. Casualties among the French were massive. The victory results in a truce, allowing some troops to return home. 

Up next: 1357 Character events and decisions (Won't get to these today)

@matthewyoung123 @Rodja @Arkansas Progressive @The Blood @OrangeP47 @ConservativeElector2 @Ich_bin_Tyler @WVProgressive @Rezi 

[vcczar]

The year 1357 for Robert Young, age 23

For two years now, Robert Young has been graduated as an apprentice. During this time, he had not quite yet earned enough money to set up his own shop, so he's operated as a journeyman weaver, taking work for pay where he can find it. This year, he finally has made enough money, primarily for slightly overcharging customers when his employer was out, and then pocketing the extra money to establish his own business ("greed" trait). He's been able to restrain his impulse to get drunk ("drunk" trait). You begin scouting locations for your business. 

Robert and his wife, Margaret, have two children during this time, both boys. You can name them after yourself (Robert), your father (Robert), a grandfather (William), William Weaver (William), the King (Edward), Margeret's father (William), her grandfather (Richard), the Bishop of Winchster (William). 

What will you name your children? Will you work with a local carpenter to build a new weaver shop in the outskirts of town on some rented property? Will you rent a building on the main High Street of Taunton? Will you rent a building just off the High Street? Will you attempt to purchase a weaver's shop near St Mary Magdalene's church? You can afford all of these, although the last option would completely drain you. The rental options in town are your best options, with the one off the main street being the most affordable option, although it will have less street traffic. 

[matthewyoung123]

35 minutes ago, vcczar said:

The year 1357 for Robert Young, age 23

For two years now, Robert Young has been graduated as an apprentice. During this time, he had not quite yet earned enough money to set up his own shop, so he's operated as a journeyman weaver, taking work for pay where he can find it. This year, he finally has made enough money, primarily for slightly overcharging customers when his employer was out, and then pocketing the extra money to establish his own business ("greed" trait). He's been able to restrain his impulse to get drunk ("drunk" trait). You begin scouting locations for your business. 

Robert and his wife, Margaret, have two children during this time, both boys. You can name them after yourself (Robert), your father (Robert), a grandfather (William), William Weaver (William), the King (Edward), Margeret's father (William), her grandfather (Richard), the Bishop of Winchster (William). 

What will you name your children? Will you work with a local carpenter to build a new weaver shop in the outskirts of town on some rented property? Will you rent a building on the main High Street of Taunton? Will you rent a building just off the High Street? Will you attempt to purchase a weaver's shop near St Mary Magdalene's church? You can afford all of these, although the last option would completely drain you. The rental options in town are your best options, with the one off the main street being the most affordable option, although it will have less street traffic. 

Robert will name his two boys William (after Margaret's father) and Edward (after the King).

He will purchase a weaver's shop near St Mary Magdalene's church (perhaps from a retiring or deceased weaver).  While it is the most expensive of the four options, it makes the most sense.  The shop already has the proper equipment installed in it and is set-up for weaving so Robert could get to work on the first day he owns the shop.  It already has customers, and is in a heavy traffic area being near the church.  Also, it is an already known location of a "weaver", so when new customers come into town, they will likely visit that location first. 

The location is also convenient to the church, and Robert hopes to be able to eventually craft some fine garments for the bishop or the clergy there. He also hopes that his father in law, the Gardener, will put in a good word for him with the landed gentry in the area that he gardens for, giving Robert a chance to make finer quality clothes for the nobility.

Robert's goal is to save up enough money to purchase the lot in town where his shop is at and become a property owner.  For the time being, he and his family will live behind or above his shop so he won't have to pay rent for a place to live.

 

[vcczar]

The year 1357 for John Younger, age 23

@OrangeP47

John Younger had been focusing on his work for these three years. Two years ago, he graduated as an apprentice. William Weaver was so impressed with John's work effort ("genius" trait), that he offered John an ambitious plan to corner the weaving industry in Taunton. However, the unambitious (John's trait) John was frightened off by the plan. He operated as a journeyman in various Taunton weaving shops for a year. Finally, this year, a fire erupted when a bakery caught fire and burned down the weaving shop he had currently been working at, that of John Cloth. The compassionate (trait) John Younger helped rebuild the shop with a local carpenter, mostly helping haul material. John Cloth was so impressed with how John Younger redesigned the shop to maximize efficiency, that he offered to sell the shop for John to run his own business, provided that he marry his daughter. The daughter struggles to not be repulsed by John as he's "hideous," but maybe she'll learn to love him. Here's her stats:

- Catherine Cloth, 22-year-old daughter of weaver John Cloth, greedy, sadistic, creative, pudgy, average height, mentally disabled, average health, average attractiveness. 

Will you take John Cloth's offer or continue as a journeyman until you can afford your own shop on your own?

 

 

[OrangeP47]

John Younger will not take the offer. Perhaps he's scared off once again due to his lack of ambition, or maybe it's Catherine's lack of intelect.

[vcczar]

The year 1357 for William Wiltshire, age 23

@ConservativeElector2

During the course of 3 years, Wiliiam has been a journeyman weaver for two years. He's been smart enough with his money to be able to rent a shop if he wishes. His options are to rent one on the Main Street of Taunton or a cheaper on off the Main Street. His daughter Mary is miraculously still alive at age 6, during a time of high child mortality. She lives with relative of his late wife. Despite being "ugly" William has drawn the attention of one woman who could allow Mary to move in with him. Here are her stats: 

• Margaret Miller, 21-year-old daughter of Walter Miller the miller, she is calm, decisive, political, average build, short height, gifted intelligence, average health, and average appearance. 

Both of you are political and bond on that. While both illiterate and uneducation, the two of you keep up with whatever political news you here locally or nationally. 

What is William's stance on the Bishop of Winchester? Do you support his right as overlord of Taunton or do you support the desire of some Tauntonites that the town should by the guilds, who would then elect a mayor?

What is William's stance on the recently resolved Scottish War of Independence. Should Scotland be a vassal or part of England? Or do they have a right to their own independence?

Lastly, do you court Margaret Miller? 

 

[ConservativeElector2]

3 hours ago, vcczar said:

He's been smart enough with his money to be able to rent a shop if he wishes. His options are to rent one on the Main Street of Taunton or a cheaper on off the Main Street.

I'll rent a shop on the Main Street of Taunton and hope to get more income from it, compared to the remote location.

3 hours ago, vcczar said:

What is William's stance on the Bishop of Winchester? Do you support his right as overlord of Taunton or do you support the desire of some Tauntonites that the town should by the guilds, who would then elect a mayor?

I side with the Bishop.

3 hours ago, vcczar said:

What is William's stance on the recently resolved Scottish War of Independence. Should Scotland be a vassal or part of England? Or do they have a right to their own independence?

Definitely not in favor of independence, but I don't really care about them being either a vassal or directly within the English dominion. If I have to choose, I'll take the status as vassal, because I believe the danger of another Scottish rebellion might be lower that way.

3 hours ago, vcczar said:

Lastly, do you court Margaret Miller?

Sure, I want to know where this is going.

[vcczar]

The year 1357 for Roger Williams, age 23

@WVProgressive

For two of the last three years, Roger Williams has been a journeyman weaver. However, as being both creative and a genius, he's created efficiencies to some of the weaving mechanism, which has help him earn extra income for his employers. His attractiveness also helps generate customers and a social network. Roger Williams is approached by clothier John Cloth, shearman Ralph Sherman, draper Richard Draper, fuller William Fuller, and tailor Thomas Taylor to go in with them in building a mutual network and alliance to help them corner the wool industry in Taunton by working with each other in the entire clothing making industry. John Cloth will use his regional and national network to coordinate the process as Williams, Sherman, Draper, and Fuller focus on their echanisms of the process. Taylor will sell the final products for the "company" in Taunton. Part of the agreement will allow Williams, who hasn't a shop, to move into John Cloth's shop, paying rent until he can purchase it outright, as Cloth is often traveling to lead the various parts of the wool industry. 

In other news, Edward is now three years old and is surviving a time of high childhood mortality. Roger's wife, at age 24, has produced no further living children. 

Roger must make a decision regarding the proto-company. He also has the option to just weave for himself by renting a shop on the Main Street in Taunton or a cheaper one on a side street.