NFL Playtest 2: 1950-present

vcczar · April 9, 2023

@Rezi @OrangeP47 @ebrk85 @matthewyoung123 @jvikings1 @ConservativeElector2 @mark2 @Bloot911 @Hestia @10centjimmy @Willthescout7 @Cal @vcczar

Our Alternate History of the NFL Begins

The 12 team owners and the commissioner meet to forge a professional football league composed of the best former college stars. In our history, no professional league had existed before.

While we are weeks or months away from holding an Inaugural Draft, the teams need to find a city in which to host them. Owners will make their bids for their host cities. Once every team has found a city, the owners will be able to create a team name (mascot) for their city.

Please give me a list of your top 5 preferred cities on this list as you may be refused bids. Pick from the below. I'll do the bids in order of owners posting. :

Alaska	AK
Anchorage	AK
Barrow	AK
Alabama	AL
Mobile	AL
Montgomery	AL
Arkansas	AR
Little Rock	AR
Arizona	AZ
Phoenix	AZ
Californa	CA
Fresno	CA
Los Angeles	CA
Oakland	CA
Sacramento	CA
San Diego	CA
San Francisco	CA
San Jose	CA
Colorado	CO
Denver	CO
Connecticut	CT
Hartford	CT
Washington	DC
Florida	FL
Jacksonville	FL
Key West	FL
Miami	FL
Orlando	FL
St Augustine	FL
Tallahassee	FL
Tampa Bay	FL
Atlanta	GA
Georgia	GA
Savannah	GA
Hawaii	HI
Honolulu	HI
Des Moines	IA
Iowa	IA
Boise	ID
Idaho	ID
Chicago	IL
Decatur	IL
Illinois	IL
Rock Island	IL
Springfield	IL
Evansville	IN
Hammond	IN
Indiana	IN
Indianapolis	IN
Muncie	IN
Kansas	KS
Topeka	KS
Wichita	KS
Kentucky	KY
Lexington	KY
Louisville	KY
Baton Rouge	LA
Louisiana	LA
New Orleans	LA
Boston	MA
Cambridge	MA
Massachusetts	MA
New England	MA
Salem	MA
Springfield	MA
Worcester	MA
Baltimore	MD
Maryland	MD
Detroit	MI
Michigan	MI
Duluth	MN
Minneapolis	MN
Minnesota	MN
St Paul	MN
Kansas City	MO
Missouri	MO
St Louis	MO
Jackson	MS
Mississippi	MS
Billings	MT
Montana	MT
Carolina	NC
Charlotte	NC
North Carolina	NC
Raleigh	NC
Dakota	ND
Fargo	ND
North Dakota	ND
Nebraska	NE
Omaha	NE
Manchester	NH
New Hampshire	NH
New Jersey	NJ
Newark	NJ
Orange	NJ
Princeton	NJ
Trenton	NJ
Albuquerque	NM
New Mexico	NM
Las Vegas	NV
Nevada	NV
Albany	NY
Bronx	NY
Brooklyn	NY
Buffalo	NY
New York	NY
New York State	NY
Queens	NY
Rochester	NY
Staten Island	NY
Syracuse	NY
Tonawanda	NY
Akron	OH
Canton	OH
Cincinnati	OH
Cleveland	OH
Columbus	OH
Dayton	OH
LaRue	OH
Ohio	OH
Portsmouth	OH
Toledo	OH
Oklahoma	OK
Oklahoma City	OK
Tulsa	OK
Oregon	OR
Portland	OR
Frankford	PA
Gettysburg	PA
Pennsylvania	PA
Philadelphia	PA
Pittsburgh	PA
Pottsville	PA
Newport	RI
Providence	RI
Rhode Island	RI
Charleston	SC
South Carolina	SC
Sioux Falls	SD
South Dakota	SD
Chattanooga	TN
Memphis	TN
Nashville	TN
Tennessee	TN
Arlington	TX
Austin	TX
Brownsville	TX
Dallas	TX
El Paso	TX
Fort Worth	TX
Houston	TX
San Antonio	TX
San Marcos	TX
Texas	TX
Salt Lake City	UT
Utah	UT
Arlington	VA
Richmond	VA
Virginia	VA
Virginia Beach	VA
Williamsburg	VA
Seattle	WA
Washington State	WA
Green Bay	WI
Kenosha	WI
Madison	WI
Milwaukee	WI
Racine	WI
Wisconsin	WI
West Virginia	WV
Wheeling	WV
Wyoming	WY
Long Island	NY
Portland	ME
Maine	ME
Vermont	VT
Montpelier	VT
Cheyenne	WY
Nantucket	MA
Flint	MI
Dearborn	MI

OrangeP47 · April 9, 2023

1. Springfield (IL)

2. Rock Island (IL)

3. Illinois (IL) 😉

4. Chicago (IL)

5. Iowa (IA) (mixing it up)

10centjimmy · April 9, 2023

1. Washington, DC

2. Dallas, TX

3. Baltimore, MD

4. Pittsburgh, PA

5. Providence, RI

matthewyoung123 · April 9, 2023

Raleigh, NC

Atlanta, GA

Charlotte, NC

Richmond, VA

Carolina, NC

Rezi · April 9, 2023

Interests:

Economic Progressive
Civil Libertarian
Liberty/Labor Dem

Cal · April 9, 2023

1. Richmond (Virginia)

2. Key West (Florida)

3. Idaho (Idaho)

4. Chattanooga (Tennessee)

5. Anchorage (Alaska)

10centjimmy · April 9, 2023

9 minutes ago, Cal said:

5. Anchorage (Alaska)

Man the busrides to Alaska would be killer. Talk about home field advantage!!

Cal · April 9, 2023

15 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said:

Man the busrides to Alaska would be killer. Talk about home field advantage!!

The southern teams coming to Anchorage to play are going to be in for a surprise with the weather. That’s an unfair advantage.

ConservativeElector2 · April 9, 2023

Interests:

Let's do a Tom Cotton/Tim Scott ticket! 🇺🇸

jvikings1 · April 9, 2023

Interests:

Liberty Republican

Bloot911 · April 10, 2023

1. Savannah GA

2. Chattanooga TN

3. Tallahassee FL

4. Salt Lake City UT

5. Topeka KS

ebrk85 · April 10, 2023

1. Oklahoma OK

2. Los Angeles CA

3. Arizona AZ

4. Colorado CO

5. Boston MA

Hestia · April 10, 2023

1. Des Moines, IA

2. Omaha, NE

3. Iowa

4. Madison, WI

5. Kansas City, MO

vcczar · April 10, 2023

@Willthescout7 and @mark2 remain

vcczar · April 10, 2023

@ShortKing or @jnewt are either of you interested in taking the 12th team if Mark2 doesn’t respond by the end of the day? He’d been awol for almost a week

Willthescout7 · April 10, 2023

1. Decatur, IL (where I grew up and the rightful location of the Staley Bears)

2. Missouri (if I can lobby for the inclusion of Springfield Missouri on this list for several reasons (1. the railway hub at the time the league started was of huge importance and why the town formed at all. The Assemblies of God Church formed here solely because of the railway network. 2. It provides access to Arkansas, Oklahoma, and is closer to St Louis than Kansas City, and 3. I live here). I think it is incredibly likely that in an alternate world a team would spawn here.

3. Cheyanne, WY (I did a project on Wyoming in 4th grade and found Cheyanne fascinating for no reason)

4. Williamsburg, VA (I did a family trip there in middle school and loved it)

5. Gettysburg, PA (Good Movie)

jnewt · April 10, 2023

6 hours ago, vcczar said:

@ShortKing or @jnewt are either of you interested in taking the 12th team if Mark2 doesn’t respond by the end of the day? He’d been awol for almost a week

Sure, I can take it, if you can be a little flexible with time (or just make decisions for me) if I’m taking too long - I definitely won’t take a week to make decisions though.

jnewt · April 10, 2023

My choices would be:

1. Worcester (I live here)

2. Boston (I work here)

3. Providence (I went to school for a year here)

4. Boise (potatoes)

5. Las Vegas (gambling)

mark2 · April 11, 2023

Interests:

used to play political games, now I just yap occasionally in favor of less government

vcczar · April 11, 2023

We will keep both @jnewt and @mark2 as teams. If a team dissolves later, that's fine--and historically accurate for the 1950s. I'm going to join and be a 14th team to keep it even.

Here are my bids.

1. Cambridge, MA

2. Philadelphia, PA

3. New Orleans, LA

4. Austin, TX

5. Dallas, TX

vcczar · April 11, 2023

1st Round of Bid Attempts for Team Locations!

@OrangeP47 Springfield, IL declines to take a team.
@10centjimmy Washington DC accepts a bid for a professional football team. The Washington club become the first team in the league! 75% chance of bid success.
@matthewyoung123 Raleigh, NC declines to take a team.
@Rezi Rochester, NY declines to take a team.
@Cal Richmond, VA declines to take a team.
@ConservativeElector2 Little Rock, AR declines to take a team.
@jvikings1 the state of Kentucky declines to take a state team.
@Bloot911 Savannah, GA declines to take a team.
@ebrk85 the state of Oklahoma declines to take a state team.
@Hestia Des Moines, IA declines to take a team.
@Willthescout7 Decatur, IL declines to take a team.
@jnewt Worcester, MA declines to take a team.
@mark2 Albany, NY declines to take a team.
@vcczar Cambridge, MA accepts a bid for a professional football team. 2nd team in the league. 10% chance of bid success.

After the first month of finding investors and host cities that investors want to invest in, the league is only comprised of two teams. It seems right that the national capital has the first team. That investors in Cambridge accepted investing in Cambridge is quite shocking, especially since those in the area are more likely to watch Harvard play than a professional team.

2nd Round of Bid Attempts for Team Locations

@OrangeP47 Rock Island, IL declines
@matthewyoung123 Atlanta, GA accepts! Team #3. 75% bid success.
@Rezi Tonawanda, NY declines
@Cal Key West, FL declines
@ConservativeElector2 Montgomery, AL declines
@jvikings1 Lexington, KY accepts! Team 4. 10% bid success.
@Bloot911 Chattanooga, TN declines.
@ebrk85 Los Angeles, CA accepts! Team 5. 75% bid success.
@Hestia Omaha, NE declines
@Willthescout7 Missouri declines a state team.
@jnewt Boston, MA accepts! Team 6. 75% bid success. The Boston-Cambridge rivalry is going to be INsane! The Charles River Rivalry!
@mark2 New York declines a state team.

After another month, the league has 6 teams--Four of which are East Coast.

3rd Round of Bid Attempts for Team Locations

@OrangeP47 Illinois declines a state team.
@Rezi Buffalo, NY accepts! Team 7. 50% chance bid success.
@Cal Idaho declines a state team.
@ConservativeElector2 As Richmond and Raleigh have already declines, we go to the 5th preference: Williamsburg, VA declines.
@Bloot911 Tallahassee, FL declines.
@Hestia Iowa declines a state team.
@Willthescout7 Cheyenne, WY declines.
@mark2 Las Vegas, NV accepts! Team 8. 75% chance bid success.

After three months, the league has 8 teams with 6 owners still grasping for investors and host cities.

4th Round of Bid Attempts for Team Locations

@OrangeP47 Chicago, IL accepts! Team 9. 75% chance of bid success.
@Cal Chattanooga had already declined an offer, so we go with Anchorage, AK, which declines.
@ConservativeElector2 has exhausted his list for now.
@Bloot911 Salt Lake City, UT accepts! Team 10. 25% chance of bid success.
@Hestia Madison, WI declines.
@Willthescout7 Williamsburg had declines an offer already, so we go with Gettysburg, PA, which declines as emphatically as possible (100 on the die, when you needed 1 to 5 out of 100 to get Gettysburg.)

After four months, the league is in the double digits. Some of the owners have exhausted their lists and will need to consider bids again.

5th Round of Bid Attempts for Team Locations

@Cal has exhausted his list.
@ConservativeElector2 has exhausted his list for now.
@Hestia Kansas City, MO accepts! Team 11. 75% chance of bid success.
@Willthescout7 has exhausted his list.

The fifth month sees Kansas City added as an 11th team.

I now need @Cal @ConservativeElector2 and @Willthescout7 to organize another list of cities, ideally with one large city included on the list. See who has already declined and been accepted above. Chicago and LA can host two teams, so even though they have teams they can have another.

matthewyoung123 · April 11, 2023

Atlanta football franchise starting a lot earlier than they really did. That's ok, the Falcons can have a long and proud tradition of folding under pressure! 😉

OrangeP47 · April 11, 2023

1 minute ago, matthewyoung123 said:

Atlanta football franchise starting a lot earlier than they really did. That's ok, the Falcons can have a long and proud tradition of folding under pressure! 😉

And calling it "East Coast" 😛 haha

Here's a quick team map of what we have so far. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=15V6ti99Yp-cNA5u7IsEgBJmCCZ_Pvtk&usp=sharing

10centjimmy · April 11, 2023

3 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

And calling it "East Coast" 😛 haha

Here's a quick team map of what we have so far. https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=15V6ti99Yp-cNA5u7IsEgBJmCCZ_Pvtk&usp=sharing

That's a pretty sweet spread, hopefully we get NYC, Texas, and another Midwest team to fill it out

OrangeP47 · April 11, 2023

3 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said:

That's a pretty sweet spread, hopefully we get NYC, Texas, and another Midwest team to fill it out

Will could probably be persuaded to at least try St. Louis.

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