vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Rezi @OrangeP47 @ebrk85 @matthewyoung123 @jvikings1 @ConservativeElector2 @mark2 @Bloot911 @Hestia @10centjimmy @Willthescout7 @Cal @vcczar @jnewt NFL Active Draft Results!!!! Lot's of different draft strategies. Some went for quantity and some went for quality. Two people, including myself, had terrible draft strategies. Two teams didn't bid at all. ==================== Sad Clowns C DeMao, Al CB/KR Tunnell, Emlen DE Bill McPeak DT Jim Winkler G Banducci, Bruno OLB Thompson, Tommy QB Harry Gilmer RB Howard, Sherman SS Doll, Don T Wildung, Dick WR Hirsch, Crazylegs This team's historical best players are likely CB Tunnell and WR Hirsch. ======================== Mustaches MLB/K Poole, Ray P Gillom, Horace QB Bobby Thomason RB Ziegler, Frank WR Fears, Tom They didn't bid on many people but they got some quality. WR Fears is their star player, most likely. -------------------- Monarchs CB Hartley, Howard DE DeRogatis, Al FB Chick Jagade G Serini, Wash QB Finks, Jim QB YA Tittle RB Spec Sanders RB/KR Grimes, Billy T/K Grouza, Lou WR Mac Speedie This is a particularly strong team on offense. QB Tittle, RB Sanders, T/K Groza, and WR Speedie are all likely stars. ============================== Cardinals CB Steiner, Rebel DE Dove, Bob FB/K Harder, Pat G Wistert, Al MLB Chuck Drazenovich OLB Clarkson, Stu QB/K Bob Waterfield RB Jones, Dub RB/KR Smith, Vitamin T Stenn, Paul WR Edwards, Dan QB Waterfield might be their only potential all-pro player, although MLB Drazenovich is good. ============================== Yodelers C Gatski, Frank CB Craft, Russ DE Sprinkle, Ed DT Jarmoluk, Mike FS Ramsey, Ray G Sulaitis, Joe MLB Iverson, Duke QB Tripucka, Frank RB Van Buren, Steve RB/P Gulyanics, George T Niemi, Lauri WR Taylor, Hugh DE Sprinkle and RB Van Buren are their best players. Van Buren is the best RB in football, historically, although he's getting kinda old at this point. They'll have to rely on him because QB Tripucka can throw a lot of INTs. Fun fact; Tripucka's son played in the NBA in the 1980s and early 1990s. I remember him playing. Kelly Tripucka was his name. =============================== Knights C Jack Simmons DE Berrang, Ed DT Weinmeister, Arnie FB Parmer, Jim FS Lewis, Cliff G Nichols, Hamilton QB Charlie Conerly QB Hardy, Jim RB Tony Canadeo T George Connor No major standouts but it's a solid roster. QB Conerly, historically, was close to hall-of-fame quality. Most likely, QB Hardy will be the backup. =================================== Moose C Lindskog, Vic DE Henke, Ed FB Motley, Marion FS Davis, Harper G Ramsey, Knox MLB Shipkey, Jerry QB Tommy Thompson RB/KR Taliaferro, George SS/P Tom Landry T Lipscomb, Paul WR Garza, Dan This team's star is FB Motley. QB Tommy Thompson won two championship historically, despite being blind in one eye. This active draft had two Tommy Thompson's. The other one is an OLB. ================================ Viceroys C Ecklund, Brad CB Warren Lahr CB/KR George McAfee DE Ford, Len DT Grgich, Visco FB Joe Perry K Agajanian, Ben MLB Flanagan, Dick OLB Adamle, Tony QB Geri, Joe QB/P Norm Van Brocklin RB Hoernschemeyer, Bob SS Cason, Jim T Dick Huffman WR Lavelli, Dante This team's stars are FB Perry, QB/P Van Brocklin, and WR Lavelli. That's a strong offense. One wild card is CB/KR McAfee. He's a HoFer but mainly for his cumulative abilities as a CB and KR and as an RB, but he didn't play RB by 1950 as he was older. ================================ Top Hats C Walsh, Bill DE Brink, Larry DT Donovan, Art FB Hoerner, Dick FS Otto Schnellbacher G Barwegen, Dick MLB Bednarik, Chuck OLB Bones Weatherly QB Bobby Layne RB Veri Lillywhite RB/KR/K Walker, Doak T Coulter, Tex WR Pihos, Pete This is a very balanced team. For defense, DT Donovan, FS Schnellbacher, and MLB Bednarik are great. For offense, WR Pihos, RB/KR/K Walker, and QB Layne are great. The latter two both went to my high school. They were teammates both in high school and in the NFL. Both are HoFers. Walker is a weird Hall of Famer because he's in for collective ability for his three roles. He isn't dominant at any of them, but he's someone you want to have. ================================================ Pot Smokers DT Baker, Jon G Creekmur, Lou QB Lujack, Johnny RB Angsman, Elmer This team didn't bid and was lucky to get anyone. G Creekmur is pretty good. QB Lujack is a rare early QB who was kind of mobile. ----------------------------------- Americans C Bulldog Turner DE Clay Matthews Sr DT Ray Bray OLB John Cannady QB Otto Graham QB/K Blanda, George RB Johnny Strzykalski T Bucko Kilroy WR Bob Shaw Very interesting team. They got the best QB, possibly in pro football history, in Otto Graham. At the same time, they have HoF QB/K George Blanda as a backup, and who will likely be the K. Historically, Blanda had the longest career of anyone. He played until the early 1970s! He was only a kick for like his last 8 or 10 years though. The team has C Turner, possibly the best in this draft. DE Matthews is the patriarch of the Matthews NFL dynasty. He was solid but not great, but he had one HoF son (Bruce Matthews) and another (Clay Matthews) who may get in as a senior pick sometime soon. So far like 4 or 5 grandchildren from these two sons have also been in the NFL, although only two (Clay Matthews III and Jake Matthews) of them have been good. The 2024 draft might see the last Matthews grandchild get drafted, by the way. ==================================== Rebels CB Kindt, Don DE Wimberly, Ab DT Willis, Bill FB Young, Buddy FS Tom Keane G John Wozniak K Johnson, Harvey MLB Norm Standle OLB Bob Summerhays P Girard, Jug QB Frankie Albert RB/K Bill Dudley T Fischer, Bill WR Mann, Bob This team's best player is probably DT Bill Willis, one of the four players to break the NFL color barrier, and strangely playing on a team with a "rebels" mascot. There's a lot of depth on this team, but no other real standouts. The depth is probably helpful this early in the league. QB Albert can be a solid QB. ----------------------------------- Colonels FB Younger, Tank G Bill Austin QB Ratterman, George RB Box, Cloyce This team didn't bid and were lucky to get players. Their star player is probably FB Tank Younger, who is good. QB Ratterman is interesting. He's got talent but throws a lot of INTs. Ratterman was a 20 year old rookie in the mid to late 1940s and threw 22 TDs, which was the rookie QB TD record until Peyton Manning!!!! ---------------------------------- Painted Buntings DE Wham, Tom DT Stickel, Walt FS Wagner, Lowell G Abe Gibron QB Sammy Baugh RB Scott, Joe RB/QB Trippi, Charley T Bill Wightkin WR Nickel, Elbie I had a terrible draft strategy and old did so well because two teams didn't bid. My top two players are QB Baugh and RB/QB Trippi, both Hall of Famers. However, Baugh is the oldest player in the league and probably only has one more good season left. Trippi is one of those weird hybrid players that doesn't quite fit the NFL well from the 1950s on. He was perfect for the 1940s. ================================ Overall, I think the Top Hats are the favorites to win at this point. The next thing I gotta do is move these guys on to your rosters, set up your team pages, and calculate team strengths 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 All part of the strategery. Headed right to the tank bowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I just winged it honestly. Glad I'm not trash. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Top Hats @10centjimmy players and team strength is now available. I expect them to be the top team at this point. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 11808 2523 3045 1800 2190 2250 The team's strength is running the ball and stopping the run. Their weakest area is pass defense. The math is such that these values (aside from the total) should be balanced if every slot has a player of equal strength. So a 1800 in passing should be a 1800 in rushing. If the Top Hats lose in an upset, it will be becasue it's playing a strong passing game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @Cal Sad Clowns The Sad Clowns are far worse than the Top Hats, but they aren't as bad as I thought they'd be. They really need some help on defense, specifically pass defense. The offense has a slight rushing advantage. Special Teams is woefully weak. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 9195 2080 2120 1625 1870 1500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @Bloot911 Mustaches They have a lot of holes. They have no offensive line! They're on track to have a great passing offense if they can get some offensive linemen. They're defense is particularly weak. Despite all of this, they have a reasonably strong special teams, which is good considering they'll have to use it frequently. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 6170 1525 1175 645 775 2050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @Hestia Monarchs I thought this team would be better than the Sad Clowns, but I was noticing that the defense is so weak. The offense and special teams are quite solid. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 8655 2345 2645 775 840 2050 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @OrangeP47 Cardinals This team is pretty good. The rushing offense is great, as is the special teams. Passing offense is solid. The weakness is the defense. Of the teams above, they're the 2nd strongest team after the Top Hats, but we have some more teams to post. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 10305 2180 2605 1570 1700 2250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, vcczar said: @OrangeP47 Cardinals This team is pretty good. The rushing offense is great, as is the special teams. Passing offense is solid. The weakness is the defense. Of the teams above, they're the 2nd strongest team after the Top Hats, but we have some more teams to post. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 10305 2180 2605 1570 1700 2250 I low key tried to go for special teams because I figured nobody else would, especially in this era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @ebrk85 Yodelers This team seems decent. Considering the RB is Steve Van Buren, I'm kind of surprised the rushing offense isn't better, but they may just need a FB and at least one OLman that isn't mediocre. The pass defense and special teams is weak also. In all other ways, the team is respectable. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 9630 2120 2465 1650 2095 1300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @mark2 Knights This team has some holes. Very good offense, but the defense and special teams are terrible. He has no notable LBs or STs. The team also lacks a notable WR. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 7350 2100 2625 950 1175 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @Willthescout7 Moose This team is farily good, although the defense is weak. I think the mediocre coach is also holding them back. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 9200 2105 2325 1315 1555 1900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @ConservativeElector2 Viceroys New top team! Special teams and rush defense is outstanding. The only weakness on the team is the coach. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 12425 2255 2140 2410 2620 3000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @matthewyoung123 Rebels This is a competitive team. The weak spot is pass defense. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 10435 2025 2230 1880 2350 1950 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @jvikings1 Colonels Not bidding really hurt them, but they have a running attack. They have zero notable defense or special teams. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 4360 1420 1845 195 150 750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @Rezi Pot Smokers This is the other team that failed to bid, and it shows. They are slightly better than the Colonels because they have at least one notable person on defense, although the Colonels have a slightly better offense. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 4825 1365 1705 455 650 650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @jnewt Americans This team has some important pieces in place. They have QB Otto Graham, George Blanda as a K, and Bulldog Turner as the C. Historically, Graham went to the Championship every year. It's hard seeing him do that without a lot of help in the upcoming draft. The team is very weak defensively. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 8080 2325 1935 1015 1205 1600 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 @vcczar Painted Buntings My team needs a lot of help, especially defense and ST. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 7061 2111 2145 950 1105 750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 2 hours ago, vcczar said: @mark2 Knights This team has some holes. Very good offense, but the defense and special teams are terrible. He has no notable LBs or STs. The team also lacks a notable WR. Total Team Strength Team Pass Off Team Rush Off Team Pass Def Team Rush Def Team ST 7350 2100 2625 950 1175 500 all part of the plan, we're headed straight to exciting mediocrity baby! get those tickets pumping! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Here's the Power Rankings Pre-Draft. We will Draft in Reverse Order of This List: Team Owner Division Total Team Strength Virginia Beach Viceroys CE2 East 12425 Washington Top Hats 10centjimmy East 11808 Atlanta Rebels matthewyoung East 10435 Chicago Cardinals OrangeP West 10305 Los Angeles Yodelers ebrk West 9630 Muncie Moose WilltheScout West 9200 Boise Sad Clowns Cal West 9195 Kansas City Monarchs Hestia West 8655 Boston Americans JNewt East 8080 Las Vegas Knights mark2 West 7350 Cambridge Painted Buntings VCCzar East 7061 Salt Lake City Mustaches Bloot West 6170 Buffalo Pot Smokers Rezi East 4825 Lexington Colonels JVikings East 4360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 Rezi @OrangeP47 @ebrk85 @matthewyoung123 @jvikings1 @ConservativeElector2 @mark2 @Bloot911 @Hestia @10centjimmy @Willthescout7 @Cal @vcczar @jnewt 1950 Rookie Draft is Up!!!!! I worked all day so we have time to do this before @matthewyoung123's trip. This is similar to the active draft. Please go onto the spreadsheet and make a 100 point bid on players for each round in the DraftList tab. This will show me who you are interested in picking up. I'll take the highest bid when it is your turn. I'll also make note if a position is filled later in the draft and another need position is there. And things like that. If you don't bid, I'll just draft a need player for you. You have until Thursday when I wake up. So basically 36 to 40 hours from this post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 @vcczar I have some guy with no name on my team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 By my count, there are 43 players in this draft. Does that mean we'll each get 3, with the Lexington Colonels getting the last pick? I might be misunderstanding this though because I don't see the reason for having points if we're just going in order based off of team strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Cal said: By my count, there are 43 players in this draft. Does that mean we'll each get 3, with the Lexington Colonels getting the last pick? I might be misunderstanding this though because I don't see the reason for having points if we're just going in order based off of team strength. Not necessarily. I have to account for non-notables. So you have a chance of getting no pick. There’s no certainty. Weaker teams gave a higher chance of getting a pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: @vcczar I have some guy with no name on my team. I’ll fix that tomorrow if I remember. I’m brain dead after working on this game for 12 hours today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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