CE2's 1804 election poll

[ConservativeElector2]

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It's 1804. President Jefferson runs with James Madison. He is challenged by the Marquis de Lafayette and Charles C. Pinckney.

Happy voting!

[Zenobiyl]

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On the eve of the election Lafayette makes a novel pledge to follow in Washington’s footsteps by only serving for one term. This pledge ensures Lafayette will be able to focus on the good of the nation, instead of any future election campaigns. It also means there will be an open door in the federalist primary in 1808 for anyone who wants to run, but only if Lafayette wins....

[themiddlepolitical]

Sec. Dearbourn endorses his President, Thomas Jefferson for president

NY Sen. Dewitt Clinton does the same, crossing party lines, after flipping his vote to push LaFayette forward with no compensation. 

I'm doing one character per party, to stay active lol.

 @Pringles

Edited June 3, 2021 by themiddlepolitical

[Pringles]

President Jefferson runs on being the most successful President to date. Both figuratively, and literally according to rolls. 😄 

@themiddlepolitical Clinton may have a job in the cabinet if he wishes for his generous support in the event Jefferson wins re-election. 

[themiddlepolitical]

1 minute ago, Pringles said:

President Jefferson runs on being the most successful President to date. Both figuratively, and literally according to rolls. 😄 

@themiddlepolitical Clinton may have a job in the cabinet if he wishes for his generous support in the event Jefferson wins re-election. 

Clinton accepts this pledge.

"Pres. Jefferson has promised to cross party lines for the good of our country- this is the type of leadership we need for years to come."

[Mishfox]

John Quincy Adams strongly endorses Lafayette for president. 

“This election the choice is so obvious it’s a no brainer. Lafayette has advocated for the end of slavery. Jefferson owns hundreds of slaves, and also fucked one. Lafayette fought for freedom in America, while Jefferson was off getting high with the French. Lafayette is a humble man who puts country first, while Jefferson can’t help but brag about his “GrEaT aDmInIsTrAtIoN every .0001 seconds. Lafayette is the clear choice in this election, and I urge everyone to vote for him as a vote for integrity and forward thinking policy.”

Edited June 3, 2021 by Mishfox

[MrPotatoTed]

Question for @ConservativeElector2: Is Alexander Hamilton still alive?  Historically, he died before the 1804 election -- but as in-game events have taken his life on a different path, I wasn't sure if we're sticking with historical death dates or not.

[ConservativeElector2]

1 hour ago, MrPotatoTed said:

Question for @ConservativeElector2: Is Alexander Hamilton still alive?  Historically, he died before the 1804 election -- but as in-game events have taken his life on a different path, I wasn't sure if we're sticking with historical death dates or not.

That's actually a good reminder. Thanks!

I rolled a 62/100 for him now. That means he didn't outlive his real death (90+ roll needed)

[MrPotatoTed]

4 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

That's actually a good reminder. Thanks!

I rolled a 62/100 for him now. That means he didn't outlive his real death (90+ roll needed)

So in our universe, Alexander Hamilton was killed by the sitting Vice President.

And in the game universe, Alexander Hamilton was killed while serving as the sitting Vice president.  

Poor guy can't catch a break.

;c)

[Zenobiyl]

1 minute ago, MrPotatoTed said:

So in our universe, Alexander Hamilton was killed by the sitting Vice President.

And in the game universe, Alexander Hamilton was killed while serving as the sitting Vice president.  

Poor guy can't catch a break.

;c)

If I win I’ll hold a state funeral for him. All else aside the guy didn’t deserve to die so young.

Edited June 3, 2021 by Zenobiyl

[Pringles]

2 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said:

So in our universe, Alexander Hamilton was killed by the sitting Vice President.

And in the game universe, Alexander Hamilton was killed while serving as the sitting Vice president.  

Poor guy can't catch a break.

;c)

Good riddance I say. 😛 

[MrPotatoTed]

Side note:  Jefferson and Madison are from the same state.  Given the real-world rule that state electors must choose a President or VP not from their state, this would mean VA, a major holder of delegates, would not be able to vote Madison as VP.  Given how close the vote currently is, it's conceivable this would end with something like Jefferson as President but Pinckney as VP.

[Zenobiyl]

Just now, MrPotatoTed said:

Side note:  Jefferson and Madison are from the same state.  Given the real-world rule that state electors must choose a President or VP not from their state, this would mean VA, a major holder of delegates, would not be able to vote Madison as VP.  Given how close the vote currently is, it's conceivable this would end with something like Jefferson as President but Pinckney as VP.

Fr? Lmao that would be epic. 

[ConservativeElector2]

1 minute ago, MrPotatoTed said:

Side note:  Jefferson and Madison are from the same state.  Given the real-world rule that state electors must choose a President or VP not from their state, this would mean VA, a major holder of delegates, would not be able to vote Madison as VP.  Given how close the vote currently is, it's conceivable this would end with something like Jefferson as President but Pinckney as VP.

True. Argh haha

future rule: look where your VP candidate is from. 

For this election, we'll see how the things stand tomorrow.

[MrPotatoTed]

2 minutes ago, Zenobiyl said:

Fr? Lmao that would be epic. 

Yep!  https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state

There are other possible outcomes, such as nobody getting enough VP votes because of Virginia not being able to support Madison, and thus the VP election going to the Senate.

Edited June 3, 2021 by MrPotatoTed

[Zenobiyl]

1 minute ago, MrPotatoTed said:

Yep!  https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state

There are other possible outcomes, such as nobody getting enough VP votes because of Virginia not being able to support Madison, and thus the VP election going to the Senate.

Federalist senate 😂

[Hestia]

We have Abigail and John Adams nonsense as well as all the stuff with Hamilton, but we draw the line at same state VP? 😭

[Pringles]

5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said:

Yep!  https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state

There are other possible outcomes, such as nobody getting enough VP votes because of Virginia not being able to support Madison, and thus the VP election going to the Senate.

That'll be another Vice President that isn't allowed in the White House. 😛 

[Pringles]

Just now, Hestia said:

We have Abigail and John Adams nonsense as well as all the stuff with Hamilton, but we draw the line at same state VP? 😭

So true XD 

[Zenobiyl]

1 minute ago, Hestia said:

We have Abigail and John Adams nonsense as well as all the stuff with Hamilton, but we draw the line at same state VP? 😭

Mishfox is in his own separate universe, so using him as an example is kinda unfair

Edited June 3, 2021 by Zenobiyl

[MrPotatoTed]

Just now, Hestia said:

We have Abigail and John Adams nonsense as well as all the stuff with Hamilton, but we draw the line at same state VP? 😭

Ha, I leave it up to @ConservativeElector2 of course, it's his game.  I'm just talking real world.

[Zenobiyl]

Just now, Pringles said:

So true XD 

I mean, we enforced the age limit rule on Hamilton in 1796 so I think it’s only fair....

[Hestia]

2 minutes ago, Zenobiyl said:

I mean, we enforced the age limit rule on Hamilton in 1796 so I think it’s only fair....

Only after he got tied, to be fair. 

[Pringles]

8 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said:

Ha, I leave it up to @ConservativeElector2 of course, it's his game.  I'm just talking real world.

The smell of Jefferson Derangement Syndrome is strong with this one. 😉 

[Hestia]

Eh it's not a big deal 😛 just havin' fun!