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IK it's been years since I've been on a 270soft forum but there was some stuff I wrote there back when I was younger that I now regret  (y'all know what it is) so I would like to real quick leave this message here retracting all that and apologizing for any offence caused. (This is additionally why I requested deletion of my account.)

Thanks @vcczar for referring me to this forum.

 

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2 minutes ago, NYRepublican said:

IK it's been years since I've been on a 270soft forum but there was some stuff I wrote there back when I was younger that I now regret  (y'all know what it is) so I would like to real quick leave this message here retracting all that and apologizing for any offence caused. (This is additionally why I requested deletion of my account.)

Thanks @vcczar for referring me to this forum.

 

We all have those stories from when we were younger. I was a lot different until I was about 22 years old. I voted for GW Bush in the first election I was old enough to vote in (2000). I did a little Civil War reenacting in Texas, obviously as the South (always thought racism and slavery were awful though). I used to be very politically incorrect in my humor. I used to be be way more pro-military and even considered joining the navy. I used to be religious but not devout, but religious enough to think that other religions and even non-protestant Christianity was something lesser than my own religion. Used to be anti-LGBT when I was religious, although never publicly so. 

Lots of stuff I'm embarrassed by. However, I look at it as an opportunity to show others that people evolve and change for the better. I also don't condemn people for past behavior--unless they're keeping it up--because people do often change. For instance, Sen. Robert Byrd used to be a KKK member but late in life he ecstatically supported Barack Obama as president, something the younger him would have never done. I don't condemn Byrd for having been a KKK member, I applaud him for having disowned it and become a better person. 

As for myself, I'm not religious. I'm supportive of LGBT. I'm a pacifist. I don't like anything about the Confederacy. I would never dream of supporting a Republican. I do not consider protestants better than Catholics or any non-Christian religions. 

For me, the change occurred just by moving from home. My dad was very religious and conservatives (probably more populist than establishment). When you live on your own, you become more observant and have more agency on information and people you wish to bring into your life than when you're at home. All my evolution came not from other people, institutions, etc., but came from myself being alone in new surroundings. Although it did help that in college I met more black people, more LGBT people, and generally people that appeared to care about humanity as a whole as much as they cared about themselves and their family. Conservatism--especially social conservatism--seemed more like a hate philosophy that believed in hierarchies, exclusions, and nationalist, cultural, or racial exceptionalism. 

I should note that my brief period of being more conservative than liberal existed from probably age 16 or 17 to 22. It wasn't that long. Prior to 16, I had little interest in politics. My instincts were definitely more in line with FDR and LBJ. I always thought the government should be active about helping poor people and make the country fairer. I think my dad and my neighborhood had a lot to do with my temporary conservatism. At age 22, I rapidly evolved. Sort of like a realization that Santa Claus doesn't really exist. It was an "ah ha moment" permanent change and it felt more natural than the one I was contriving as a late teenager. By age 25, I was definitely more than just liberal, I was progressive, favoring a lot of Social Democratic or Democratic Socialist philosophies gained mainly from reading books about European political theorists. Politically, I've been the same since 25. I'm recently 42 years old. So I've been unideological for about 17 years. Conservative for 5. and Liberal or Progressive for 17 years. 

In short, don't beat yourself up too much for what you said or believed at the time. Make up for it by your present and future actions and words. 

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself. I'm large. I contain multitudes." -- Walt Whitman

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43 minutes ago, NYRepublican said:

IK it's been years since I've been on a 270soft forum but there was some stuff I wrote there back when I was younger that I now regret  (y'all know what it is) so I would like to real quick leave this message here retracting all that and apologizing for any offence caused. (This is additionally why I requested deletion of my account.)

Thanks @vcczar for referring me to this forum.

 

Good to see you!

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4 minutes ago, Patine said:

And, quite a few things you have said make me firmly believe you've been swept up with that toxic storm of disingenuous false viewpoint.

This is why people

a) do not respond

or b) respond negatively

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Just now, Patine said:

How would you like me to phrase me to phrase these particular types of issues. Even if the language, or style of presentation, is different, the tenor, message, feelings, and point behind them will be the same, correct? Is @vcczar making an intimation by connection of clauses (a connection he's made before) that just being Christian alone means support for the Confederacy, the Republican Party of the United States, war, bigotry, and injustice by the fact one views oneself as Christian alone, MORE constructive and defensible? Is such a statement not, in and of itself, worthy of a somewhat negative response? And, I would somewhat like an answer to this, since you suddenly brought it up. Because, I am concerned that things are turning into a schtick where, whenever an argument or obtuse exchange happens that another poster(s) and I am involved in, the ridiculous and insulting assumption that I, and only I, am to blame is made, and the other participant(s) are not even looked at what they were doing or saying, or how they were, "stoking the fire," and are just given a pass for responsibility. And THAT needs to end NOW!

No, I'm not saying anything other than labeling someone's inherent thoughts (as well as assuming those are, in fact, his actual thoughts on the matter, when I believe that he would actually agree with you) a "toxic storm" of "disingenuous false viewpoint", is probably not going to evoke a positive response. 

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@NYRepublican I have no idea who you are, but welcome!  Nothing wrong with looking back at past decisions and deciding to do it differently now.  

 I began blogging in 2002 on every topic imaginable, but I've had the incredibly good fortune that all of the sites I blogged on all went out of business and disappeared almost immediately after I met my wife around 2009-2010, and thus as far as the internet concerns, these extremely imperfect versions of myself (namely, my 20's) never happened.  

Thank god.  

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Just now, Patine said:

If you read my wording, I didn't say he created or authored the, "toxic storm" of "disingenuous false viewpoint," or that they were of his making or design. I said he seemed to be, "swept away," with them, specifically in that issue (people seem to get, "swept away," with all sorts of ridiculous notions nowadays, even if only temporarily - the modern socio-political discourse and it's online and media channels, as I've said, is a cesspool - and it's constantly churning one). So, maybe you, too, should have fully read how I termed things.

I didn't say that he created them at all, so maybe you should read how I termed things because that is not close to what I said. The way you put it seems to say that he subscribed to them, or by saying that you firmly believed it, that there was no way that he didn't. When in fact, I believe that he would agree with you that those ideals do not conform with Christianity. I am pointing out that you may not want to use such negative language about people or what they may or may not think, which turns people off from replying to conversations. 

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16 minutes ago, Patine said:

being Christian alone means support for the Confederacy, the Republican Party of the United States, war, bigotry, and injustice

I'm not sure where you are getting that I believe being a Christian means one supports of the Confederacy, Republican Party, war, bigotry, or injustice. That's a logical fallacy on your part. It seems like you're once again trying to start a fight just to have a fight. 

I was talking about how I was when I was religious in that I thought my own faith was superior to other faiths, including other Christianities. Even well-meaning Christians often think their faith is superior to other faiths, in which case it is a kind of prejudice, exceptionalism, etc. I think Unitarians might be the most Jesus-like Christians in the sense of maximum tolerance, although different Unitarian groups could be different since it is decentralized. I'd probably be a Unitarian if I ever wanted to join a religious group again. 

 

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1 minute ago, Patine said:

has several times insinuated that religion holds back human civilization and such.

This might be the only thing you've said on this thread about me that is true. I do think religion holds back contemporary civilization as a whole. It might not in isolated instances. 

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9 minutes ago, Wiw said:

I used to think Thatcher was a good Prime Minister. I think it was because she was the first female PM that I was so blind to her dragging Britain down into a near police state.

Police state? (!!!)

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