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The Double Exploitation of Deepfake Porn


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3 minutes ago, Patine said:

The problem with this narrative, like many that set up issues as such, is there are no actual solid, unified, coherent, socio-political blocs called, "the Left," or, "the Right." The term, "Political SPECTRUM," and NOT, "Political DICHOTONOMY," is used highly advisedly and accurately.

I agree. Just making a broad generalization that generic left and right wingers have more in common than they think. 

Here’s another example: I think that the US should do what many southern states do and encourage (but not force) closing most businesses on Sunday. 

The pro-union left will like it because it gives an extra day of rest and work-life balance to a workers schedule. 

The right will like it because Sunday is the Lord’s day (yes I know it’s technically Saturday) and promotes spending time with church and family. 

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21 minutes ago, DakotaHale said:

The left: porn demeans women and incentivises human trafficking

the right: porn is degenerate and addictive 

Leftists 🤝 MAGA

Liberty Chads: Consensual pornography is absolutely no business of the state and is entirely protected by the First Amendment.

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14 minutes ago, DakotaHale said:

I agree. Just making a broad generalization that generic left and right wingers have more in common than they think. 

Here’s another example: I think that the US should do what many southern states do and encourage (but not force) closing most businesses on Sunday. 

The pro-union left will like it because it gives an extra day of rest and work-life balance to a workers schedule. 

The right will like it because Sunday is the Lord’s day (yes I know it’s technically Saturday) and promotes spending time with church and family. 

Liberty Chads once more: This violates both the right to contract and the Establishment Clause.

Come back and try again later.

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1 minute ago, Dobs said:

Liberty Chads: Consensual pornography is absolutely no business of the state and is entirely protected by the First Amendment.

Agree. I don’t think there should be any regulations on it. I’m just personally against it and will speak out against it. 

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1 minute ago, Dobs said:

Liberty Chads once more: This violates both the right to contract and the Establishment Clause.

Come back and try again later.

Also agree. I’m not sure how we’d go about this without regulating it. I just wish it were a de facto thing everywhere. 

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

 

Pure Communist: How the workers entertain themselves after backbreaking labour and lining up for commodities is irrelevant as long as such content has no political commentary involved. Porn is not a Party issue.

I will never forget when Bernie said breadlines were a good thing lmao

Reminds me of the Reagan joke with two Soviet’s talking about breadlines: “Consider yourself lucky. I heard in America they don’t even have breadlines!”

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2 minutes ago, Dobs said:

Liberty Chads once more: This violates both the right to contract and the Establishment Clause.

Come back and try again later.

Agreed. The only time a Government should even get involved in these sort of affairs is in the horrible practice of human trafficking, and people exploited in this nasty quagmire. Which is obviously something the government actively does and is a good thing. 

And when anything involving it becomes criminal... wont go into all of the examples. 

Besides America has more important priorities, like banning Tiktok, Fortnite, and Hot Tub streams on Twitch. 

These are things I'd favor a ban on now! 😛

(joking)

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4 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Agreed. The only time a Government should even get involved in these sort of affairs is in the horrible practice of human trafficking, and people exploited in this nasty quagmire. Which is obviously something the government actively does and is a good thing. 

And when anything involving it becomes criminal... wont go into all of the examples. 

Besides America has more important priorities, like banning Tiktok, Fortnite, and Hot Tub streams on Twitch. 

These are things I'd favor a ban on now! 😛

(joking)

TikTok is a gray area for me. It could potentially by a cyber security threat but I hate the idea of the government banning apps so I lean towards no. 

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12 hours ago, Patine said:

What I find amazing, just on a related tangent, is that so many, "Christian Right," Social Conservatives believe that pornography and promoting, "LGBTQ agendas," should be exempt from First Amendment protection and be easily, even mandatorily, banned and censored from media. The obvious issue is, if their, "Christian morals," are the major backing for this, then portrayals of violence, promotion and advocacy of violence, propaganda and endorsement of war (as well as missile and drone attacks, assassinations, etc.), advocacy and glorification of firearms and other weaponry, support of, and calling for capital punishment, promotion of unbridled greed, and support of pitiless economic and social infrastructure toward the lower classes, should, by the same logic and the idea of, "Christian moral backing," also be unprotected by the First Amendment and thus banned and censored in the media.

As someone who's views are often in line with the Christian right and because I am considering myself as severely social conservative, I think, I may have the necessary insight to explain some misconceptions. I'd also like to show why it's possible to hold the aforementioned views at the same time.

First of all, yes I'd support banning pornography and I am also against promoting ''LGBTQ agendas'', but we have to take a closer look about what we are talking here. I have no problem with some movies containing erotic scenes/humor or LGBTQ movies like ''Brokeback Mountain''. That's not something I'd even care about. On the contrary I believe Brokeback Mountain is as enriching as a film as most movies I enjoy. However, I am very much against overly promoting LGBTQ stuff in school textbooks or hissing the rainbow flag over and over. I think school textbooks should focus on the subject matter rather than on political indoctrination. I also think displaying the rainbow flag does nothing positive or advantageous for the gay community. From my point of view sexual orientation is not a matter to be celebrated publicly. I don't need constant reminders of how cool it is to be straight either. That's simply wrong in a public discourse.

For your second point raised I can assure you that these views can be united with what I have explained in my first paragraph. I enjoy video games and movies which might also include what you have deemed as ''portrayals of violence, promotion and advocacy of violence, propaganda and endorsement of war'' and I'd never think about banning them. But there are conservatives who might very well want to ban video games like GTA. I absolutely love the GTA series but because I read about this very issue, I think you are definitely wrong, when arguing that there are no conservatives who are in favor of banning excessively violent video games or even movies. 

As for my own views I can only recapitulate what I have already said in other threads. There are justified wars or had we wanted ISIS overtaking more and more land, eventually holding a larger territory than some countries? Do we really want Boko Haram and their associates continuing their warfare against civilians, security forces and foreigners in Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger and other countries in the Sahel region? 

Likewise I favor the death penalty for the perpetrators of the most heinous crimes, despite understanding why people of faith could argue against it. I mean we don't talk about people stealing some food from a supermarket. We are talking about mass murderers, terrorists, rapists, school shooters and so on who willfully commit the most awful crimes. My opinion is that the death penalty is in these cases an acceptable form of punishment because such people don't qualify for any clemency and I'd welcome the reintroduction of it in European countries.

 

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12 hours ago, DakotaHale said:

TikTok is a gray area for me. It could potentially by a cyber security threat but I hate the idea of the government banning apps so I lean towards no. 

I am also not in fond of government regulations, but I think Tiktok is too dangerous so it would be justified to ban it.

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