Hestia Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Patine said: Not specifically them, no. But the al-Saud family seems to be a long-standing favourite, for instance. Right. So whereas in the U.S., there can be widespread opposition to support for a Saudi family, etc. which *could* force the government to change tack over the years. It hasn't so far, but there's more pressure than there has been in the past. With a China or something like that, there isn't any pressure to force a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Mishfox said: In a sense. I’m a Marxist Leninist so my end goal is a stateless classless society. Of course to Americans that just means I’m REEEE COMMIE 🙄 No, it means you're a troll like that other fake Communist guy in 270soft forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Timur said: No, it means you're a troll like that other fake Communist guy in 270soft forums. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Patine said: Spare us the clickbait by unhinged, conspiracy theorist, false prophet, attention-seekers. It's all for the laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hestia said: It isnt. Got any evidence behind your claim or just your opinion? https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dg25qt/china_megathread_2_debunking_western_propaganda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Timur said: No, it means you're a troll like that other fake Communist guy in 270soft forums. Ffs I’m not a communist. I’m a MARXIST LENINIST. Learn the difference instead of calling everything left wing communist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dg25qt/china_megathread_2_debunking_western_propaganda There's your problem. You spend way too much time on reddit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenzonico Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dg25qt/china_megathread_2_debunking_western_propaganda Ohhhh boyyyy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dg25qt/china_megathread_2_debunking_western_propaganda Yeah no, reddit is not factual. When the first sentence says that "North Korean defectors inaccurately describe prison conditions", your credibility, already small, is shot to bits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: Ffs I’m not a communist. I’m a MARXIST LENINIST. Learn the difference instead of calling everything left wing communist. Marxism-Leninism is a communist ideology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: MARXIST LENINIST You realize this term was invented by the USSR to be its official state ideology? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Hestia said: Yeah no, reddit is not factual. When the first sentence says that "North Korean defectors inaccurately describe prison conditions", your credibility, already small, is shot to bits. Lol. Such a rapid reply tells me you haven’t even read it yet. So open minded 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, The Blood said: You realize this term was invented by the USSR to be its official state ideology? Yes, before it was bastardized by Stalin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: Lol. Such a rapid reply tells me you haven’t even read it yet. So open minded 🙄 I didn't need to when I saw this as well as claims that everything in Xinjiang is a-ok. I've spent enough time researching the topic myself to know that this thread is absolute bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pringles said: There's your problem. You spend way too much time on reddit. And you spend too much time on the “liberal” (fascist) media. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: Lol. Such a rapid reply tells me you haven’t even read it yet. So open minded 🙄 Most of us here have been around long enough to not believe everything we're told on the internet. Especially reddit. And especially r/communism. This is a similar tier of conspiracy that you'd find on Infowars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Patine said: There is actually pressure. From within. Did you know, contrary to outside Western perceptions, the CCP is not as unified or internally disciplined as it's made out to be. Deng moved China from Maoist Agrarian-Populist Communism the current Modernist Market-Hybrid Communism, but he was not unopposed. Zhu, the Premier of China and General Secretary of the CCP at the time of the Tianamen Square riots and crackdown, was a big reformer, and the protests were actually triggered when the Politburo outvoted Zhu, and not by a huge majority (he was sacked from his position shortly after). Xi's, "anti-corruption drives," are actually diplomatic and even workable ways to purge powerful Party opponents. The Party Chairman (essentially mayor) of Shanghai showed public sympathy for the frustrations (if not tactics) of the Hong Kong protesters. Thinking of the CCP as a solid bloc of opinion and policy is a big mistake. It's like the American Republicans and Democrats, just without PUBLIC Primaries... I don't think the CCP is like the American Republicans and Democrats. It's better than the Workers' Party of Korea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mishfox said: Ffs I’m not a communist. I’m a MARXIST LENINIST. Learn the difference instead of calling everything left wing communist. What are your thoughts on the uyghur genocide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mishfox said: “liberal” (fascist) Do you know what these terms mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 Actually, the CCP, the Republicans, the Democrats, the Workers' Party of Korea, the Saudi Royal Family, etc. are puppets of a shadow government consisting of elite bankers controlling the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenzonico Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Timur said: Actually, the CCP, the Republicans, the Democrats, the Workers' Party of Korea, the Saudi Royal Family, etc. are puppets of a shadow government consisting of elite bankers controlling the world. How did you know? Make sure to check you front door later on in the day... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Rezi said: What are your thoughts on the uyghur genocide I’m not a denier lol. It is interesting that this genocide happened after China went capitalist though 🤔 Also you should look into the genocides down by UK and USA. Way worse than anything done by CCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: I’m not a denier lol. It is interesting that this genocide happened after China went capitalist though 🤔 Also you should look into the genocides down by UK and USA. Way worse than anything done by CCP. Well that megathread you sent are chock-full of deniers. Why should I believe anything else when a whole section of that is filled with lies and propaganda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mishfox said: I’m not a denier lol. It is interesting that this genocide happened after China went capitalist though 🤔 Also you should look into the genocides down by UK and USA. Way worse than anything done by CCP. I mean, yeah, the UK has done some pretty fucked stuff in its colonial past, and the US does not have a good track record with Native Americans, but why do we need to turn the page to actions by the UK and US from decades/centuries ago, and not focus on the destruction of the Uyghur people going on right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mishfox said: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/dg25qt/china_megathread_2_debunking_western_propaganda Here is some really good stuff about what's going on in America. https://archive.org/details/AmericasSecretEstablishmentInIntroductionToOrderOfSkullAndBonesAnthonyCyrilSutton1983/page/n3/mode/2up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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