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Which was the best incarnation of each major political party?  

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  1. 1. Which were the best version of the Republican Party (check all that apply)

    • Pre-Lincoln Republicans (1854-1860) -- practically single-issue abolition/anti-slave state party
    • Lincoln Republicans (1860-1876) -- anti-slavery, strong Federal government, adopted Whig principles, such as protectionism, federal banking, internal improvements, etc.
    • Imperialist, Lilly-White Republicans (1876-1904) -- Abandoned focus on Civil Rights in favor of Foreign Policy, Gold Standard, Military expansion
    • Progressive Republicans (1904-1920) -- Embraced reform, income tax, regulations, conservation, worker's rights, women's rights, although still ignore rights of Blacks
    • Normalcy Republicans (1920-1936) -- Abandoned reform and domestic focus in favor of a focus on protectionism, economics, isolationism, and limited government.
    • New Deal Rockefeller Republicans (1936-1964) -- Acceptance of FDR's New Deal and Free Trade, but with a focus on cost-cutting and efficiency, strong anti-Communist policy, slight return to Civil Rights, Foreign Policy focus.
    • Neocon Republicans/Reagan Republicans (1964-2016) -- Mostly abandoned Civil Rights and pro-New Deal rhetoric, focusing on Religious values, military intervention, defense spending, and domestic cost-cutting and limited government. Maintains Free Trade focus.
    • Nationalist Populist Republicans (2016-present) -- Mostly abandoned military intervention, focusing primarily as a rhetorical reaction to liberal culture in America and political establishment in general. Return to protectionism. Arguably will die off with their cult leader.
  2. 2. Which were the best version of the Democratic Party (check all that apply)

    • Jackson Democrats (1824-1844) -- Populist, with a focus on expanded suffrage, anti-banking, Free Trade, opposition to government programs.
    • Manifest Destiny/Popular Sovereignty Democrats (1844-1864) -- Expansionist, pro-Slavery/anti-abolitionism, Free Trade, States Rights, opposition to government programs.
    • Bourbon Democrats (1864-1896) -- Isolationist, Gold Standard, Free Trade, Limited Government, States Rights, anti-corruption, meritocracy.
    • Populist Progressive Democrats (1896-1912) -- Isolationist, Silver Standard/Bimetalism, Agrarianism, Progressive Domestic Reform, Free Trade, income tax, expanded rights (although not for blacks and the very poor))
    • Wilsonian Democrats (1912-1932) -- Maintains progressive domestic reform, income tax, Free Trade, expansion of rights (except blacks and poor), but shifts away from silver standard, agrarianism, and embraces an internationalist foreign policy.
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    • New Deal Democrats (1932-1984) -- Embrace of government as a great good, both domestically and in foreign policy. Pro-Labor. Shifting to primarily urban focus, including slow acceptance of Civil Rights. Still interventionist foreign policy.
    • New Democrats (1984-2008) -- Embrace of some of Neocon/Reagan Republican policies, maintaining but not expanding upon New Deal-type policies and programs. Adopts some deregulation. Pro-Labor. Civil Rights. Liberalism is mostly rhetoric only.
    • Liberal Democrats/Obama Democrats (2008-present) -- Return to some New Deal thinking, but with more of a focus on matters related to Civil Rights, equality, equity, reform. More rhetorical than action-oriented, preferring to keep the status quo. May be evolving into a more Populist form of Democrats with a more Socialist focus once becomes pro-active.
  3. 3. Who would you vote for if your preferred Democratic Party faced your preferred Republican Party?

    • Democrats (mention below)
    • Republicans (mention below)


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New Deal beats Progressive Republicans for me. Great matchup though!

 

I should note that the timeline of this poll is of the majority faction of the party throughout that time. There were ideological differences always within parties. 

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Close between New Democrats and Bourbon Democrats but either lose to the Reagan Republicans. 

Normalcy Era Republicans are among my favorite, except their isolationism. 

And the McKinley Presidency/Era was pretty good as well. 

Rockefeller Republicans I like because they can be moderate on the issues and are pro civil rights, yet they are still free trade and very internationalist. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

You were struck down on the 270soft Death Star, and now you're back as a Force Spirit, but whether you'll, "become more powerful than we can ever imagine," remains to be seen... 😛

Here is hoping I can be. I also took a bit of a self exile there at the end. However, I'm working on myself, I've got a job again, back to school now too, just working on myself all around. Sending you some well wishes too man. Hopefully any butting of heads we do is just playoff or at least doesn't get the blood boiling too much!

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2 minutes ago, Patine said:

Which also brings to mind something embarassing. Since this site was setup, I thought @Pringles was @SilentLiberty, on 270soft, given he also mentioned coming from Tennessee and having SIMILAR views on things, as well as similar posting styles. Obviously, I seem to be wrong. So, the question is - who was @Pringles on 270soft?

I believe Pringles was Pringles. You might be thinking of Caleb being from Tennessee, as I hail from the great plains. Nebraska is home. I did talk a lot about Colorado too though.

 

Still I'm pretty sure @Pringleswas still Pringles on 270soft or at least was on Dakota's old forum (I messed up the tag thing and can't type after it, my bad) @DakotaHale

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19 minutes ago, SilentLiberty said:

Here is hoping I can be. I also took a bit of a self exile there at the end. However, I'm working on myself, I've got a job again, back to school now too, just working on myself all around. Sending you some well wishes too man. Hopefully any butting of heads we do is just playoff or at least doesn't get the blood boiling too much!

Welcome back

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22 minutes ago, Patine said:

He must have had a distractingly different avatar image, then, because I don't remember the name there.

You’re thinking of Kingthero probably, he lives near me in Tennesssee (less than a 15 minute drive, in fact) Pringles is from elsewhere in the south. 

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8 hours ago, Patine said:

Which also brings to mind something embarassing. Since this site was setup, I thought @Pringles was @SilentLiberty, on 270soft, given he also mentioned coming from Tennessee and having SIMILAR views on things, as well as SOME similar posting styles. Obviously, I seem to be wrong. So, the question is - who was @Pringles on 270soft?

My profile picture was Mr. House from Fallout New Vegas on the old forum. 😛

And I ain't no Tennessean, I'm South Carolinian!!!! 😛

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