Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, Mishfox said: Realistic is when the United States bombs the Middle East 😂 Sigh Another “moderate” Biden voter How about when Russia bombs us when you get rid of our military? Or China invades South Korea and Taiwan? Everything has consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, WVProgressive said: So how do you plan on defending America without an organized military? Or is national self defense evil? We use communal militias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dobs said: Bud what do you think is going to occur to all the current veterans. They’ll wither away due to the nations total lack of defense? In my America everything will be provided for by the government through taxes on the rich. Veterans won’t need the paltry sums the government currently gives them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hestia said: How about when Russia bombs us when you get rid of our military? Or China invades South Korea and Taiwan? Everything has consequences. We will still have communal militias made up of volunteers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mishfox said: We use communal militias No air force, no navy, no nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Hestia said: No air force, no navy, no nothing Yes, that money will be spent on welfare for the proletariat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: Yes, that money will be spent on welfare for the proletariat Dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Hestia said: Dumb Liberal 🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: Liberal 🤑 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Patine said: See, the standing, automatic, mandated viewpoint that this situation - and others - REQUIRE, unconditionally, a direct military response by a big, overbloated, over-funded (but underachieving, having only won two wars since the end of WW2 - the only two where they actually used, and didn't ignore, the formula modern great powers wars at all with, nowadays), including charging headfirst, potentially direct conflicts with China or Russia - extinction events for the human species, in the end. The, "Globocop," self-proclaimed mandate of the U.S. and many of it's Western allies is mostly the same attitude as the Crusader Kingdoms or the White Man's Burden, just framed differently and with different specific objectives and viewpoints, but the same overarcing, core mentality. WW2 was the LAST war, to date, fought by the main Western Powers that was needed or justified to be fought as such. Though national defense - in the REAL definition of the word (defense of your own sovereign territory against invasion) is perfectly justified, and outright demanded, by ANY nation, military interventionism and adventurism by the Western Powers, as well as the USSR/Russia and China, is nothing but one war crime and atrocity after another in the Post-WW2 era. An invasion of an ally is justified to have a response. That's how it goes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Mishfox said: In my America everything will be provided for by the government through taxes on the rich. Veterans won’t need the paltry sums the government currently gives them. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mishfox said: We use communal militias Can’t have communal militias when everyone meant to be part of the militia is starving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Patine said: I personally don't think a U.S. ally is worth the extinction of humanity and the destruction of the world. Anyone in Government who sincerely does should be forcibly removed from power and pre-emptively tried for the genocide of seven billion people. So if China decides to March into Taiwan, kill a bunch of civilians and their government, you're fine with sitting by? Shame. I dont want the world to get to the point of extinction but an ally is an ally. Especially Taiwan. China is an authoritarian dictatorship. Get your priorities straight. Thankfully China isnt dumb enough to ever try this in my opinion. Despite the chess game going back and forth, at the end of the day we both want to live. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Eugene said: Can’t have communal militias when everyone meant to be part of the militia is starving. The government will provide the food, liberal 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mishfox said: The government will provide the food, liberal 😂 Where does the government get the food from? Soylent Green? 😛 Edited June 20, 2021 by Pringles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Patine said: I personally don't think a U.S. ally is worth the extinction of humanity and the destruction of the world. Anyone in Government who sincerely does should be forcibly removed from power and pre-emptively tried for the genocide of seven billion people. Then China shouldnt invade South Korea. The alliance specifically states that the US will come to the Republic of Koreas defense. That is on them, not us at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mishfox said: The government will provide the food, liberal 😂 The only time I’m liberal is when I’m in bed with your mom, commie Edited June 20, 2021 by Eugene 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Patine said: Such twisted logic. These, "alliances," are why the assassination of Franz Ferdinand turned from a dispute between Austria-Hungary and Serbia to the most nightmarish war in history. South Korea is a valuable and trusted friend. The onus is on the invader, not the invadee. I would say your logic is the one that is twisted. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Patine said: What about some of the recent plans to invade or intervene in North Korea by the U.S. in the last or so. Why was there rhetoric not speaking of de facto declaring war on Russia and China, and that human extinction was recognized as a very real possibility. That element of the affair was completely absent from any of the talk. But wouldn't such a proxy declaration of war have to acknowledged there, too? Has the U.S. invaded North Korea? Oh, no, I thought I had missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Eugene said: The only time I’m liberal is when I’m in bed with your mom, commie Typical conservative “humor” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pringles said: Where does the government get the food from? Soylent Green? 😛 From the wealthy restaurants and supermarkets who throw out most of their product 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: Typical conservative “humor” I thought he was liberal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Mishfox said: From the wealthy restaurants and supermarkets who throw out most of their product And where do they get their food from? What happens when it runs out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Patine said: No, I was referring to talk at several points in the last decade or so of a potential U.S. invasion of, or intervention in, North Korea for various reasons proposed. I thought I made that clear in the first line of my post above, which makes your response a bit confusing. There are tons of plans created by the government and Pentagon officials that are there *in case they are needed*. Not every plan is made with the intent of actually putting it into motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishfox Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hestia said: I thought he was liberal? Those words mean the same thing to anyone living outside the capitalist bubble of American politics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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