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14 hours ago, Rezi said:

Shadow Secretary of State for the Home Department Reginald Maudling introduces Public Bill to Parliament.

 

Secretary Maudling introduces the "Voluntary Return for Immigrants and their Descendants Bill", which would offer 1st and 2nd generation immigrants to the United Kingdom 350£ to return to their country of origin. He states that the bill would help to "save the homogeneity of the British population, all while providing for those who wish to seek a better life with that opportunity, yet back in their home country, rather than in ours." He speaks of the fact that the British economy would be better suited not having an overload of new people coming in and overflowing the nation, and that incentives to decrease the amount of immigrants in the nation would prevent harm to the democracy of the nation that comes from a change in composition of the population.

Roy Jenkins will call the bill "Useless garbage", and there will be heavy LabRight organization against it. 

 

13 hours ago, Pringles said:

Ed Heath proposes bill repealing Labour tax increases. Eliminates Mansion and Wealth Tax.

"The passing of the initial Labour plans are only going to cripple our nation's economy further. I must introduce a bill removing these tax hikes on the British people that in the end, will only hurt them further. It must stop." 

Callaghan will declare during a press conference that, "Parliament cannot be playing a game of constant back-and-forth, where every single piece of legislation passed in an attempt to alleviate our current crisis immediately incites a repeal bill from the Tories. We have a country to govern, but I don't think the Tories recognize that."

 

13 hours ago, Hestia said:

David Steel proposes the Choice for Scotland Act

David Steel, lead of the Liberals, proposes the Choice for Scotland Act, in which Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland would be allowed votes upon devolved parliaments. While it allows for all parliaments, he named it for Scotland because of his homeland there. 🙂 Liberals press for a vote on the Act in Parliament and support from other political parties as well. He cites numerous Scottish voters who personally told him they supported a devolved Parliament 

There will be a general signaling of support from LabRight leaders, though there will not be a major organization in favor of the act.

13 hours ago, WVProgressive said:

Eric Heffer proposes the Public Works, and Infrastructure Act of 1976. The act would institute a government works program, creating jobs by funding the building of new national, and regional infrastructure, and public works projects, as well as upgrades to existing infrastructure, and public works projects. The work would be comprised 65% by the British Construction Agency, a new government agency that would employ the unemployed to work in the building, improving, and maintaining of national, and regional infrastructure, and the other 35% would be contracted out to privately owned British construction companies.

The Act will be fully supported, with Callaghan declaring it a needed step towards putting paychecks into people's hands.

10 hours ago, WVProgressive said:

 

Benn also requests that prominent moderate parliamentarians like Jim Callaghan, Anthony Crosland, and Denis Healey, direct their efforts with regards to the bill, to picking off left wing, and moderate One Nation Tories (If @The Bloodconsents to this strategy, if not, disregard this part) .   

I consent to the strategy, and major LabRights will begin carrying it out.

 

9 hours ago, Dobs said:

Shadow Secretary for Energy and Industrial Strategy Nigel Lawson will introduce the “Economic Liberty Defense Act” which will suspend executive power to nationalize any new industry or collectivize any sector or business except upon a qualified majority in Parliament (2/3rds).

 

Nationalization is something no LabRight is clamoring for, however, this bill is simply a partisan attempt to hamstring the PM's power, and with the economic crisis which is occurring, that cannot be allowed. 

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Soft Left Events (On Behalf of @Sean F Kennedy, if anything in this post goes against his wishes, disregard it)

ELDA: Nay.

PWIA: Aye to original bill, nay to Heath Amendment, and Aye to Castle Amendment

CSA: Aye, and aye to the English Parliament Amendment

VRIDA: Aye

Tax Repeal: Nay

Proposal: Peter Shore Tariff Reform Act, which would implement a new 50% tariff on all British imports, with exceptions for imports from the US 20% tariff. EEC countries would only e forced to pay a 5% tariff.

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14 hours ago, The Blood said:

Nationalization is something no LabRight is clamoring for, however, this bill is simply a partisan attempt to hamstring the PM's power, and with the economic crisis which is occurring, that cannot be allowed. 

When Callaghan says he opposes nationalization but this is just to limit the PM’s power on the floor, the Shadow First Secretary will rise and simply exclaim back “The Prime Ministers power to what Mr. Secretary!”

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11 hours ago, Dobs said:

When Callaghan says he opposes nationalization but this is just to limit the PM’s power on the floor, the Shadow First Secretary will rise and simply exclaim back “The Prime Ministers power to what Mr. Secretary!”

Callaghan will quickly respond, declaring, "Well, I seem to not know whether the Shadow Secretary needs improved word comprehension or an understanding of nuance, but to cover both, the proposed bill would limit the Prime Minister's ability to nationalize industries. I am no fan of nationalization, and in my roles as First Secretary and Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, I will oppose most proposed nationalization from the Prime Minister. However, as much as I am not a fan of nationalization, I am also not a fan of partisan attempts to strip power from the Prime Minister with the only apparent reason being that they are of another party from you. I am especially not a fan of such attempts when we are facing an economic crisis, and all the Tories seem to be able to think about is politicking."

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6 hours ago, The Blood said:

Callaghan will quickly respond, declaring, "Well, I seem to not know whether the Shadow Secretary needs improved word comprehension or an understanding of nuance, but to cover both, the proposed bill would limit the Prime Minister's ability to nationalize industries. I am no fan of nationalization, and in my roles as First Secretary and Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, I will oppose most proposed nationalization from the Prime Minister. However, as much as I am not a fan of nationalization, I am also not a fan of partisan attempts to strip power from the Prime Minister with the only apparent reason being that they are of another party from you. I am especially not a fan of such attempts when we are facing an economic crisis, and all the Tories seem to be able to think about is politicking."

“If you think I would be any more comfortable with the Leader of the Opposition nationalizing an industry as I would the Prime Minister, perhaps you should acquaint yourself more with your parliamentary shadow. My intent is for this law to continue in perpetuity, to end the scourge of nationalization. Mr. Secretary, this isn’t politicking, this is aiding a country in economic crisis. You’ve said it yourself, you’re no fan of nationalization presumably because you know it harms economic growth and is a serious affront to the Liberty all brittons enjoy. The Prime Minister has been a vigorous proponent of something you recognize could harm the economy in its delicate state. So then why don’t you cross the floor and join us in defending Britain Mr. Secretary! Ah, but perhaps it wouldn’t be politically expedient with your party leader.”

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47 minutes ago, Dobs said:

“If you think I would be any more comfortable with the Leader of the Opposition nationalizing an industry as I would the Prime Minister, perhaps you should acquaint yourself more with your parliamentary shadow. My intent is for this law to continue in perpetuity, to end the scourge of nationalization. Mr. Secretary, this isn’t politicking, this is aiding a country in economic crisis. You’ve said it yourself, you’re no fan of nationalization presumably because you know it harms economic growth and is a serious affront to the Liberty all brittons enjoy. The Prime Minister has been a vigorous proponent of something you recognize could harm the economy in its delicate state. So then why don’t you cross the floor and join us in defending Britain Mr. Secretary! Ah, but perhaps it wouldn’t be politically expedient with your party leader.”

Callaghan will respond with fire and fury, declaring, "Shadow Secretary, "defending Britain" does not mean playing the political games of the Tories while our nation suffers, and it does not mean setting a precedent for the Minority in Parliament being able to propose and pass bills stripping away at the power of the Prime Minister.(Callaghan will point to the Prime Minister) I say proudly to this man, that as the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, and as First Secretary, I will oppose almost all attempts by him to nationalize a given British industry. However, this is not about nationalization. It is about the crisis we are in and the strength of our institutions. Under this piece of legislation, we would be setting the precedent that in times of crisis, the Minority in Parliament may begin attempting to strip away at the powers of the Prime Minister. We would set the precedent that pettiness and politicking can prevail over the needs of the British people and the institutions designed with them in mind. That the Tories can distract from our people's suffering by attempting to alter our government's processes in favor of themselves, the Minority. My vote is not a vote taken with nationalization in mind, it is a vote with principle in mind, something you seem to have a lack of."

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Heath Tax Cuts

Labour
Left - Exempt

Soft Left - Exempt

Right - 7 - 30 - No Defectors

Conservatives

One Nation - 4 - 20 - No Defectors

Thatcherite - Exempt

Old Tory - Exempt

Liberals

5 - 48 - No Defectors

SNP

10! - 51 - No Defectors

PC

5 - 36 - No Defectors

UUP

1! - 23 - 5 Defectors

VPU

6 - 83 - 2 Defectors

 

Vote Tally

With the Government:

Labour - 319

SNP - 11

PC - 3

UUP - 5

VPU - 2

SDLP - 1

Ind. Rep - 1

Overall - 342

Abstentions:

None

With the Opposition:

Conservatives: 276

Liberals: 13

UUP: 1

VPU: 1

DUP: 1

Overall - 292

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Heath's Tax Cuts fail to pass. The Labour party manage to unify on the issue thus preventing the opposition from passing the bill, no matter how united they were or could have been. Labour's victory was bolstered by support from the Scottish National Party, Plaid Cymru and strange defections from the VPU and UUP in addition to their usual Irish support that comes from the SDLP and the Independent Republican Frank Maguire.

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Voluntary Return for Immigrants and their Descendants Bill

Labour

Left - Exempt

Soft Left - Exempt

Right - Exempt

Conservatives

One Nation - Exempt

Thatcherite - Exempt

Old Tory - Exempt

Liberals

Exempt

SNP

Exempt

PC

Exempt

UUP

Exempt

VPU

Exempt

Vote Tally

With the Government:

Labour - 319

Conservative - 216

Liberals - 13

SNP - 11

PC - 3

SDLP - 1

Ind. Rep. - 1

Total - 564

With the Opposition

Conservative - 60

UUP - 6

VPU - 3

Total - 69

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With the current economic climate as well as the social implications of the bill maybe it was doomed to fail. (I always balance my exempts but come one!! LOOK AT THE BILL!!)

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Choice For Scotland Act

Labour

Left - 10! - 43 - No Defectors

Soft Left - 1! - 93 - 3 Defectors

Labour Right - 7 - 31 - No Defectors

Conservatives

One Nation - Conscience vote - 46(No) - 108(Abstain) - 17(Yes)

Thatcherite - 10! - 68 - No Defectors

Old Tory - 9 - 15 - No Defectors

Liberal

3 - 69 - 2 Defectors

SNP

Exempt

PC

Exempt

UUP

Exempt

VPU
Exempt

Vote Tally

For the Bill:

Labour - 316

Conservative - 17

Liberal - 11

SNP - 11

PC - 3

SDLP - 1

Ind. Rep. - 1

Overall - 360

Abstentions: 

Conservatives - 108

Labour - 3

Liberal - 2

Overall - 113

Against the Bill:

Conservative - 103

UUP - 6

VPU - 3

DUP - 1

Overall - 113

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The bill passes with a healthy support base. A vote will be held on the English Parliament Amendment then we await the referendum.

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Public Works Act with Compromise

Labour

Left -  Exempt

Soft Left - 7 - 81 - 17 Defectors

Right - 9 - 63 - No Defectors

Conservatives

One Nation - 3 - 26 - No Defectors

Thatcherite - 6 - 68 - 14 Defectors

Old Tory - Exempt

Liberals

Free to vote - 6(Yes) - 1(Abstention) - 6(No)

SNP

2 - 45 - 6 Defectors

PC

9 - 51 - No Defectors

UUP

7 - 42 - No Defectors

VPU

9 - 68 - No Defectors

Vote Tally

For the Government

Labour - 302

Conservatives - 185

Liberals - 6

SNP - 5

SDLP - 1

Ind. Rep. - 1

Overall - 400

Abstentions

Liberals - 1

For the Opposition

Conservatives - 91

Labour - 17

Liberals - 6

SNP - 6

UUP - 6

VPU - 3

DUP - 1

Overall - 130

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The act passes in a landslide! Though both sides have their defectors.

Whilst the Labour side had no defectors of note with their reasons being split between the act going too far and the act not going far enough.

On the Conservative side noted Thatcher ally Keith Joseph once again reared his head, stating how he supported the act as a step towards a social market economy.

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Tariff Act

Labour

Left - Exempt

Soft Left - Exempt

Right - 7 - 54 - No Defectors

Conservatives

One Nation - Exempt

Thatcherite - Exempt

Old Tory - 3 - 58 - 4 Defectors

Liberals

10! - 61 - No Defectors

SNP

6 - 31 - No Defectors

PC

4 - 22 - No Defectors

UUP

1! - 71 - 3 Defectors

VPU

5 - 53 - No Defectors

Vote Tally

For the Government:

Labour: 319

Conservative: 56

SNP: 11

SDLP: 1

Ind Rep: 1

Overall: 388

Abstentions:

Conservative: 4

UUP: 3

Overall - 7

With the Opposition:

Conservatives: 216

Liberals: 13

PC: 3

UUP: 3

VPU: 3

DUP: 3

Overall: 241

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The act passes commandingly! Whilst Labour and their usual allies manage to cobble together a majority to pass the act the Conservative support of the tariffs allowed them much breathing room and gave more legitimacy to the acts passing.

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Economic Liberty Defense Act

Labour

Left - Exempt

Soft Left - Exempt

Right - 7 - 10 - No Defectors

Conservatives

One Nation - 3 - 47 - No Defectors

Thatcherite - Exempt

Old Tory - Exempt

Liberal

7 - 33 - No Defectors

SNP

8 - 69 - No Defectors

PC

6 - 10 - No Defectors

UUP

6 - 14 - No Defectors

VPU

2 - 82 - 1 Defector

Vote Tally

For the Government:

Labour - 319

SNP - 11

PC - 3

SDLP - 1

Ind Rep - 1

VPU - 1

Overall - 336

For the Opposition

Conservatives - 276

Liberal - 13

UUP - 6

VPU - 2

DUP - 1

Overall - 298

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ECONOMY ROLL (10!/100) The economy is in a bad position and has been for a while. The effects of Labour's reforms are yet to be seen but at the moment things don't look at all good for them...

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AND THERE WE GOOOOO!

So, next turn carry on as usual except for two things, I want to see events for the Rotheram by-election, 3 each if your party is competing, in addition to that a stance on an English Parliament.

 

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Barbara Castle Proposes the Computerization Research Support Act. The Act would give government funding to researchers, and companies researching computer technology. It would also devote an amount of money towards computerizing, and automating the British Government's bureaucracy. 

The Socialist Campaign Group releases a press release that announces the Labour Left's support for the creation for an English Parliament.

Rotheram by-election events

The Labour Party releases pamphlets on the usual Labour Platform, and emphasizing George Brown's legislative experience. 

Prime Minister Benn campaigns for Brown by giving a series of speeches in the city of Rotherham, and the surrounding area, in the run up to polling day.

Dennis Skinner campaigns for the Labour Party while touring the Rotherham constituency, making scathing, and at times over top, attacks on the Conservatives. Surely this is a one time thing, and Skinner won't make of habit of this...

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Rotherham by-election

The Liberals will attempt to use their strong local brand to increase turnout in the by-election to benefit the Liberals.

They focus on local issues, and the candidate, Anna Ford, visits several areas of Rotherham to buoy her support.

Liberals try to gain the endorsement of the local paper.

Liberals are ambivalent on an English parliament and will allow a free vote.

Liberals begin work on a date for the referendums in each of the countries to propose, but have nothing to add at this time.

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Ted Heath swings by in Rotheram for some campaigning. 

The Conservative Party authorizes huge amounts of funding in Rotherham, specifically towards the ground game effort.

Finally, Stephen Dorrell holds a multitude of community events in Rotherham for the final week. 

 

Ted Heath announces a 2nd motion of no confidence against the Prime Minister. Citing the failure to fix the economy, and the worsening state of the economy itself.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Pringles said:

Ted Heath announces a 2nd motion of no confidence against the Prime Minister. Citing the failure to fix the economy, and the worsening state of the economy itself.

 

The Labour Party releases a news paper advertisement mocking the Conservative's VONC. The advert satirizes the two parties differing responses to the recession reading

"How do you solve a recession?

Labour: Public spending, aimed at reducing unemployment, increasing the amount of money people have, and instituting programs to help British businesses, and drive down the cost of good.

Conservatives: You call an election!"

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Robin Cook introduces legislation that provides government employment during the economic downturn to get money back into the pockets of the people of the United Kingdom.

 

Flyers are passed out in swing districts attacking the Conservatives for being uncompromising on the economic downturn and only seek another election. 

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On 4/17/2021 at 5:22 PM, WVProgressive said:

Barbara Castle Proposes the Computerization Research Support Act. The Act would give government funding to researchers, and companies researching computer technology. It would also devote an amount of money towards computerizing, and automating the British Government's bureaucracy. 

This bill would help streamline the British government's operations and bring us into the future, full support. 

22 hours ago, Pringles said:

Ted Heath announces a 2nd motion of no confidence against the Prime Minister. Citing the failure to fix the economy, and the worsening state of the economy itself.

 

Callaghan will simply declare, "Ah yes, because deep-rooted issues in the British economy cannot be solved by expansive new programs focused on our working people, they must be solved by continuously acting like snotty brats who would rather throw the table over and cry than actually attempt to govern."

22 hours ago, Sean F Kennedy said:

Robin Cook introduces legislation that provides government employment during the economic downturn to get money back into the pockets of the people of the United Kingdom.

 

Prominent LabRight leaders will throw their support behind the act. 

On 4/17/2021 at 10:48 AM, Fbarbarossa said:

A vote will be held on the English Parliament Amendment then we await the referendum.

There will be general support from Callaghan and other leaders for such a Parliament.

 

Callaghan will propose the Farmer's Bank, a new publicly owned bank which will help invest in the rural areas of the UK, building up rural infrastructure while providing affordable credit and banking services to non-exporting domestic farmers. 

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On 4/17/2021 at 6:22 PM, WVProgressive said:

Barbara Castle Proposes the Computerization Research Support Act. The Act would give government funding to researchers, and companies researching computer technology. It would also devote an amount of money towards computerizing, and automating the British Government's bureaucracy. 

Maudling will make sure that his supporters exercise their Laissez-Faire ideology with this one, by voting against any government intervention in the free market.

On 4/18/2021 at 11:25 AM, Pringles said:

Ted Heath announces a 2nd motion of no confidence against the Prime Minister. Citing the failure to fix the economy, and the worsening state of the economy itself.

Maudling gives a public speech in favor of the Motion of No Confidence, stating, "If England means as much to you as England means to me, you will vote Aye on this motion!"

On 4/18/2021 at 11:48 AM, Sean F Kennedy said:

Robin Cook introduces legislation that provides government employment during the economic downturn to get money back into the pockets of the people of the United Kingdom.

There is a common understanding amongst the Old Tories that this would be a disastrous policy, and to vote Nay.

On 4/19/2021 at 10:06 AM, The Blood said:

Callaghan will propose the Farmer's Bank, a new publicly owned bank which will help invest in the rural areas of the UK, building up rural infrastructure while providing affordable credit and banking services to non-exporting domestic farmers. 

Nay

 

 

Maudling and his supporters will vote against the English Parliament, because if we keep devolving into separate Parliaments, then the United Kingdom will no longer be united.

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(This is the last turn where I can't commit to Thatch flame, we'll be back!)

We will oppose all of the Labour proposals, including the English Parliament. We will also support the motion of no confidence against the government.

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ROTHERHAM BY-ELECTION

Labour

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The Labour Party releases pamphlets on the usual Labour Platform, and emphasizing George Brown's legislative experience. 

(1!) The economy is BAD and people are concerned. Labour have announced plan after plan and nothing seems to have improved yet, there is little trust in Government.

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Prime Minister Benn campaigns for Brown by giving a series of speeches in the city of Rotherham, and the surrounding area, in the run up to polling day.

(3) Benn is possibly one of the best speakers in the country but a bad economy speaks better.

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Dennis Skinner campaigns for the Labour Party while touring the Rotherham constituency, making scathing, and at times over top, attacks on the Conservatives. Surely this is a one time thing, and Skinner won't make of habit of this...

(5) Skinner manages to hit better but he may be too little.

OVERALL: -7

Conservatives:

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Ted Heath swings by in Rotheram for some campaigning. 

(10!) Ted Heath is a hit. The leader of the opposition has good prospects to become Prime Minster again and a personal appearance aids his prospects in the by election.

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The Conservative Party authorizes huge amounts of funding in Rotherham, specifically towards the ground game effort.

(8) Money talks. Rotheram is flooded with posters and ads for the Conservative Party

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Finally, Stephen Dorrell holds a multitude of community events in Rotherham for the final week.

(5) Dorrell is rather tepid but not badly received whatsoever.

OVERALL: 9

Liberals:

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The Liberals will attempt to use their strong local brand to increase turnout in the by-election to benefit the Liberals.

(7) It works, local issues are always important and people feel better with someone who knows the area.

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They focus on local issues, and the candidate, Anna Ford, visits several areas of Rotherham to buoy her support.

(8) The Liberals perform well! They're gathering a strong local following by focusing on less national issues.

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Liberals try to gain the endorsement of the local paper.

(1!) The paper refuses! After being dragged into politics they instead endorse Labour! (35)

OVERALL: 0

Paper endorsement roll (D5): 4. Labour now at -3

D100 ROLLS

LAB: 73

CON: 98

LIB: 25

RESULTS:

LAB: 40.8% 

CON: 40% 

LIB: 20.2%

SWING:

LAB: -22.8%

CON: +17.9%

LIB: +6.8%

The results are in! Labour hang onto their majority by 0.8 percentage points! While this may appear positive the formerly safe seat where Labour won over 60% of the vote in the last election has now become marginal. A clear sign of dissatisfaction with the Government.

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