vcczar Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 How would you rank the following nominees and strong candidates? Feel free to rank them according to however you want to rank them. I am ranking those below by who would most and least excite me today, assuming they were at their historic election cycle age in 2024: Bernie Sanders Barack Obama Joe Biden Hillary Clinton Al Gore Howard Dean John Kerry Ralph Nader *At #2 if could get 270 EVs* Jill Stein Gary Johnson Mitt Romney John McCain John Kasich George W Bush Donald Trump Rick Santorum Ted Cruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Ranked by how well I think they would govern if elected in the year they either were the nominee or were almost the nominee: — Would be good Presidents — 1. Hillary Clinton 2. Joe Biden 3. John Kerry 4. Al Gore 5. John McCain — Would be middling Presidents — 6. Howard Dean 7. John Kasich 8. Barack Obama 9. Mitt Romney 10. Bernie Sanders 11. Gary Johnson — Would be bad Presidents — 12. George W Bush 13. Ralph Nader 14. Ted Cruz 15. Rick Santorum 16. Jill Stein 17. Donald Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Cry and seethe liberals: Mitt Romney (if he wasn't Mormon) Al Gore Howard Dean John Kerry John Kasich Barack Obama Rick Santorum Ted Cruz Gary Johnson Ralph Nader Donald Trump John McCain Hillary Clinton Joe Biden George W. Bush Jill Stein Bernie Sanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 George W. Bush Ted Cruz Rick Santorum Mitt Romney John McCain John Kasich Gary Johnson Donald Trump Howard Dean Al Gore John Kerry Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Joe Biden Ralph Nader Bernie Sanders Jill Stein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodja Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 (edited) 1.Bernie Sanders 2.Barack Obama 3.Howard Dean 4.Ralph Nader 5.Joe Biden 6.Al Gore 7.John Kerry 8.John Kasich 9.Mitt Romney 10.John McCain 11.Hillary Clinton 12.George W Bush 13.Jill Stein 14.Gary Johnson 15.Rick Santorum 16.Ted Cruz 17.Donald Trump Edited July 9, 2023 by Rodja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 9, 2023 Author Share Posted July 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Rodja said: 1.Bernie Sanders 2.Barack Obama 3.Howard Dean 4.Ralph Nader 5.Joe Biden 6.Al Gore 7.John Kerry 8.John Kasich 9.Mitt Romney 10.John McCain 11.George W Bush 12.Jill Stein 13.Gary Johnson 14.Rick Santorum 15.Ted Cruz 16.Donald Trump You forgot Hillary Clinton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Barack Obama Joe Biden Al Gore Hillary Clinton Bernie Sanders Howard Dean John Kerry John McCain John Kasich Mitt Romney Ralph Nader Gary Johnson Jill Stein George W Bush Rick Santorum Donald Trump Ted Cruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodja Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, vcczar said: You forgot Hillary Clinton Fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobs Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I have decided to treat this as if I were handed a rank-choice ballot election for President. This is my ballot: 1. Mitt Romney 2. George W Bush 3. John McCain 4. John Kasich 5. Gary Johnson 6. Hillary Clinton 7. Ted Cruz 8. Al Gore 9. Rick Santorum 10. Barack Obama 11. Joe Biden 12. John Kerry 13. Howard Dean The following are candidates who I could not bring myself to rank on the ballot (because I believe them to be both national embarrassments and active threats to the republic and thus will never get my vote for Commander-in-Chief in any capacity) but will force myself to do so for the thought experiment: Unranked 1: Donald Trump Unranked 2: Bernie Sanders Unranked 3: Ralph Nader Unranked 4: Jill Stein 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Al Gore not being elected in 2000 was a huge L and screwed our country not gonna lie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 23 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: Al Gore not being elected in 2000 was a huge L and screwed our country not gonna lie Bah, humbug! You’ve fallen for the classic left wing blunder that says Al Gore vs George Bush would’ve been soooo different. Spoiler Alert: It wouldn’t have been. 2000 was the peak “Uniparty establishment” days as populists might preach… Also note Al Gores running mate was Joe Lieberman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean F Kennedy Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1. Barack Obama 2. Al Gore 3. John McCain 4. Joe Biden 5. John Kasich 6. Bernie Sanders 7. Mitt Romney 8. John Kerry 9.Gary Johnson 10. George W Bush 11. Howard Dean 12. Ralph Nader 13. Hillary Clinton 14. Rick Santorum 15. Jill Stein 16. Ted Cruz 17. Malaria 18. Having a kidney stone 19. Donald Trump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 12:09 AM, Pringles said: Bah, humbug! You’ve fallen for the classic left wing blunder that says Al Gore vs George Bush would’ve been soooo different. Spoiler Alert: It wouldn’t have been. 2000 was the peak “Uniparty establishment” days as populists might preach… Also note Al Gores running mate was Joe Lieberman. I disagree. While I do think 9-11 and the War on Terror and possibly a form of the Patriot Act would have occurred, I don't think the Iraq War would have, which means ISIS and Arab Spring, Syrian Civil War might not have happened. Domestically, things would have had a more center-left than center-right or right shift. I Gore would have had a more substantial, early start on positive environmental policy especially. Now I will admit that Al Gore, most likely, wouldn't be as different from GW Bush as Obama is from Bush. I would suspect Gore to be slightly to the left of Bill Clinton off the bad and he would eventually move further left as the base was doing and as he was doing personally historically. Judicially, Gore's judges would be somewhat left of Bush judges, if only a little. This would be the case with all of his other appointees. In total, while the difference might not seem titanic in size, its cumulative effect would be substantially noticeable for anyone living in the US (if they could also experience the Bush years before trying this alternate history). Really, both Bush and Gore were only campaigning as centrists. Gore would likely veer left as Bush did veer right once he was in office. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunell Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) Ranking based on how they'd be as President. John McCain George W Bush Mitt Romney John Kasich Al Gore Ted Cruz Rick Santorum Howard Dean Joe Biden John Kerry Gary Johnson Worst of the rest (people who either were terrible Presidents, or would be one). Barack Obama Hillary Clinton Donald Trump Bernie Sanders Ralph Nader *At #2 if could get 270 EVs* Jill Stein Edited July 29, 2023 by Brunell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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