vcczar Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This game is going to be great. I’ll probably make a scenario using people I know, including from this forum: see video https://www.general-staff.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I didn't watch the whole video yet, but it looks promising. I am still waiting on a Civil War game that ticks all the boxes: has thousands of historical generals in it, gives you the possibility to fight non-historic battles that get named for the vicinities it was fought for, historic weapons, full details on your numbered regiments and brigades after each battle and a political component with Governors etc. Instead of having fancy graphics, I would also prefer to fight inch by inch for territory. I don't like gaining complete provinces or even worse hexagons after a battle. I am more on the dynamic map end and that probably the only thing I complain about, when it comes to the Total War series, which I consider the best available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 12 Author Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, ConservativeElector2 said: I didn't watch the whole video yet, but it looks promising. I am still waiting on a Civil War game that ticks all the boxes: has thousands of historical generals in it, gives you the possibility to fight non-historic battles that get named for the vicinities it was fought for, historic weapons, full details on your numbered regiments and brigades after each battle and a political component with Governors etc. Instead of having fancy graphics, I would also prefer to fight inch by inch for territory. I don't like gaining complete provinces or even worse hexagons after a battle. I am more on the dynamic map end and that probably the only thing I complain about, when it comes to the Total War series, which I consider the best available. That game exists. Grand Tactician. Austrian company too. Doesn’t have Govs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, vcczar said: That game exists. Grand Tactician. Austrian company too. Doesn’t have Govs though. Yeah I know that from your suggestion. Still haven't had the right amount of time to check it out, but it's definitely on my list. Edit: After checking it out at Steam again, I remembered another reason that kept me from getting this game until now. It has a bunch of bad reviews, especially when compared to the Total War games. Edited July 12 by ConservativeElector2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) Is there anywhere to preorder Edited July 12 by themiddlepolitical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 12 Author Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, themiddlepolitical said: Is there anywhere to preorder Write the creator here: https://www.general-staff.com he will take PayPal and then give you a steam key when he has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 16 hours ago, vcczar said: Write the creator here: https://www.general-staff.com he will take PayPal and then give you a steam key when he has them. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 4 hours ago, themiddlepolitical said: Thanks! Ordered it- super excited to dive in, Said he should have keys out next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I’ll be honest, read the pages on the website and I’m still not quite sure what this game is or is supposed to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 On 7/15/2023 at 12:29 PM, Willthescout7 said: I’ll be honest, read the pages on the website and I’m still not quite sure what this game is or is supposed to be It's a realistic wargame simulator. You play the role of the commanding general and you give orders. It's hyperrealistic in the sense that, you cannot control any of your units, you can only give orders. They may or may not follow your orders. There's also a fog of war, including for the HQ. So you may see this instance: - It's 6am. You are on the high ground but the trees are blocking your vision of your corps on your army's right flank. You have to rely on the corps commander updating you. Alternatively, you move to the corps but then you lose sight of 2/3 of your army. So you stay put. - At 630am, the 2/3 of the army you can see, seem to be deflecting attacks well. At about 645, you receive a report from the corps commander you can't see, stating that the army may be attempting a flanking movement. You sent orders of how to deal with this, but because it takes 30 minutes for your messenger to get there, they won't have orders for 30 minutes, and the situation could change. If your leadership skill is really bad, it could take like an hour for the messenger to arrive, since the time is also based on how quickly a leader comes to a decision. For instance, at Antietam, Lee has like twice the leadership of McClellan, so Lee's orders take half as long to arrive to his commanders. The battles aren't linked. They're stand alone, so you can't play the entire civil war. Most of the battles or Napoleonic and Civil War, I think. I recommend watching the video of the game to really understand it. It's meant to be a realistic simulator by a professor who has made war games for the US military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, vcczar said: It's a realistic wargame simulator. You play the role of the commanding general and you give orders. It's hyperrealistic in the sense that, you cannot control any of your units, you can only give orders. They may or may not follow your orders. There's also a fog of war, including for the HQ. So you may see this instance: - It's 6am. You are on the high ground but the trees are blocking your vision of your corps on your army's right flank. You have to rely on the corps commander updating you. Alternatively, you move to the corps but then you lose sight of 2/3 of your army. So you stay put. - At 630am, the 2/3 of the army you can see, seem to be deflecting attacks well. At about 645, you receive a report from the corps commander you can't see, stating that the army may be attempting a flanking movement. You sent orders of how to deal with this, but because it takes 30 minutes for your messenger to get there, they won't have orders for 30 minutes, and the situation could change. If your leadership skill is really bad, it could take like an hour for the messenger to arrive, since the time is also based on how quickly a leader comes to a decision. For instance, at Antietam, Lee has like twice the leadership of McClellan, so Lee's orders take half as long to arrive to his commanders. The battles aren't linked. They're stand alone, so you can't play the entire civil war. Most of the battles or Napoleonic and Civil War, I think. I recommend watching the video of the game to really understand it. It's meant to be a realistic simulator by a professor who has made war games for the US military. What excites me most about it is the editor aspect, I'm pretty sure you could simulate medieval and modern day conflicts by modifying different things. Edited July 17 by themiddlepolitical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 Just now, themiddlepolitical said: What excites me most about it is the editor aspect, I'm pretty sure you could simulate medieval and modern day conflicts by modifying different things. I don't think modern would work. The architecture is exclusively built for linear warfare. No tanks, aircraft, etc. It uses lines of battle, muskets, cannon, cavalry. As such, it's basically 1618-1865 --- Thirty Years War through Civil War. You might be able to make a half-assed version of a medieval battle, but you'd have to set the fire power and range about to zero since it used firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 (edited) 31 minutes ago, vcczar said: I don't think modern would work. The architecture is exclusively built for linear warfare. No tanks, aircraft, etc. It uses lines of battle, muskets, cannon, cavalry. As such, it's basically 1618-1865 --- Thirty Years War through Civil War. You might be able to make a half-assed version of a medieval battle, but you'd have to set the fire power and range about to zero since it used firearms. hmm okay I see, I guess it is limited in that sense then. Edited July 17 by themiddlepolitical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockmon Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 6 hours ago, themiddlepolitical said: hmm okay I see, I guess it is limited in that sense then. so I also felt a little sad that something like this isn't turned into the modern warfare. BUT I founded this in one of the post from the game creator about the AI, MATE, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 11 hours ago, Blockmon said: so I also felt a little sad that something like this isn't turned into the modern warfare. BUT I founded this in one of the post from the game creator about the AI, MATE, Oh okay awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 On 7/11/2023 at 8:53 PM, vcczar said: That game exists. Grand Tactician. Austrian company too. Doesn’t have Govs though. Just watched the trailer for the upcoming DLC. Looks insanely badass. My background will be a pompous Frenchman who bullshitted his way into leading a confederate regiment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 30 Author Share Posted July 30 58 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: Just watched the trailer for the upcoming DLC. Looks insanely badass. My background will be a pompous Frenchman who bullshitted his way into leading a confederate regiment. I'll probably make someone most similar to me and then I'll create an extremely reckless person who is prone to getting wounded. Apparently you can't die, so I just want to see if I can lose all of my limbs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 General Staff can be purchased now. I was an early backer so I've been playing it. They're going to beta the actual simulator soon. Only the editor is playable right now. I've been creating a battle. One army is the Democratic Army and the other is the Republican Army. The generals are presidential nominees, candidates, VPs. I'm so busy that I'm only making slow progress, but I can't wait until I can try it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 On 8/20/2023 at 1:10 PM, vcczar said: General Staff can be purchased now. I was an early backer so I've been playing it. They're going to beta the actual simulator soon. Only the editor is playable right now. I've been creating a battle. One army is the Democratic Army and the other is the Republican Army. The generals are presidential nominees, candidates, VPs. I'm so busy that I'm only making slow progress, but I can't wait until I can try it out. Based. A play-by-play would be cool if you have the time. Are you doing it as rural vs urban, red states vs blue states, or North vs South? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Also worth mentioning the "be a general" DLC for Grand Tactician releases in two days (the 25th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 23 Author Share Posted August 23 52 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: Based. A play-by-play would be cool if you have the time. Are you doing it as rural vs urban, red states vs blue states, or North vs South? Dem vs Reps. Lincoln w/Trump and Jackson w/Biden. Etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 6 minutes ago, vcczar said: Dem vs Reps. Lincoln w/Trump and Jackson w/Biden. Etc. Based. Having Lincoln, Eisenhower and Teddy on the same team is OP though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 20 hours ago, DakotaHale said: Based. Having Lincoln, Eisenhower and Teddy on the same team is OP though. This is basically the format I'm using: Commanding generals are DNC and RNC (really player vs CPU or player vs player) Infantry = the party's nominee Cavalry = Any significant runner up candidates (i.e. Bernie Sanders) who didn't become Pres or VP Artilley = VPs who don't quality as inf and cav Supply = Notable Cabinet members that don't quality for the above. The corps's are group according to era, and the most well-known president for that party is corps commander - Lincoln, T Roosevelt, Coolidge, Reagan, Trump vs Jackson, Cleveland, Wilson, FD Roosevelt, B Clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 7 minutes ago, vcczar said: This is basically the format I'm using: Commanding generals are DNC and RNC (really player vs CPU or player vs player) Infantry = the party's nominee Cavalry = Any significant runner up candidates (i.e. Bernie Sanders) who didn't become Pres or VP Artilley = VPs who don't quality as inf and cav Supply = Notable Cabinet members that don't quality for the above. The corps's are group according to era, and the most well-known president for that party is corps commander - Lincoln, T Roosevelt, Coolidge, Reagan, Trump vs Jackson, Cleveland, Wilson, FD Roosevelt, B Clinton. What map do you plan on creating for it? DC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 10 minutes ago, themiddlepolitical said: What map do you plan on creating for it? DC? Most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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