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It will be interesting to watch this one unfold. I've wondered what the game would look like if Lincoln just let the South leave and maybe tried to expand northward into Canada. Turn the USA into a progressive manufacturing hub. Not sure that's how this playtest will unfold but it's a possibility given the start date.

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We have FOUR human players for this playtest, each taking a faction.  Other humans will CPU the factions NOT controlled by humans.

@Willthescout7has taken the Southern Democrats.  They are, essentially, the Right Wing of the Democratic party and are led by Senator Jefferson Davis of Mississippi.

@10centjimmyhas taken the Conservative Democrats, led by President James Buchanan and are the next faction towards the middle from the Southern Democrats. 

When and IF Southern secession happens, it will likely impact these two factions the most.  About 90% of Will's faction are from Southern states, and about 50% of Jimmy's faction is.

On the other side, we welcome newcomer @Euri to the playtest.  He will lead the Crittenden Republicans (Moderates) currently led by Senator John J. Crittenden of Kentucky.  However, he also has a little known former Illinois Congressman in his faction, Abraham Lincoln.

Finally, @Largo833 has taken on the Left Wing Red faction with the Liberal Republicans, led by Ohio Governor Salmon P. Chase.  This is the faction that will likely want to continue reconstruction, no matter what.  So it will be a good test to see what happens with the war and reconstruction with human players in key positions.

Myself, @Murrman104, @ebrk85, @DJBillyShakes, @Connor, and sometimes @Ich_bin_Tyler will be helping out by running CPU's on factions and doing tech support (I need the help, I'm not a sheet wizard).

The test will officially begin with the 1856 draft which I will run on Friday.  Thanks all, and I look forward to a fun and productive play test!

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1856 Draft Results-

I had more time today than I expected to have, so I went ahead and ran the draft since all 4 human players had submitted their draft list to me.  The results are in your respective tabs.

1st overall pick was BlueLW who selected Sylvester Pennoyer of Oregon.  He received +1 Command skill (his first).  2nd pick was by RedRW who chose James D. Porter of Tennessee.  He got +1 Military skill. 

Here are the additional traits and alt states which I have added to the politicians already.

BlueLib- John A J Creswell- Predictable

BlueLib- John L Chipman- Integrity

BlueLW- William Baker- Pliable

@Largo833- David Jerome- Manipulative

RedLib- George Robeson- Puritan

@Willthescout7- Thomas Hindman- AL alt state

BlueLW- Sylvester Pennoyer- CA alt state

RedLib- Thomas Ewing Jr- MO alt state

@Euri- David Butler- SC alt state

@Euri- Carl Schurz- MI alt state

 

Here are the top 3 draft picks for each faction-

RedRW-James D Porter, Zebulon Vance, Oliver H Dockery

RedCons- William P Frye, Roscoe Conkling, Jeremiah Rusk

@Euri- Carl Schurz, Shelby Cullom, William B Allison

RedLib- James G Blaine, George F Edmunds, John F Hartranft

@Largo833- Samuel J Randall, Henry M Teller, William A Peffer

@Willthescout7- John M Stone, Edward A Stevenson, Johnson Hagood

@10centjimmy- J Proctor Knott, Barnes Compton, Rufus W Cobb

BlueMod- Romualdo Pacheco, William M Fishback, Johnson Camden

BlueLib- John A J Creswell, Lucius Fairchild, George Vest

BlueLW- Sylvester Pennoyer, Daniel G Fowle, Charles B Lore

 

Career Track-

Next up is Career Track additions and removals.  All 20 year career track guys will be removed automatically.  What I need from everyone is who they want to add, and if they want to pull anyone off the track early.  Please post it here on the forum.

Action to @Willthescout7, @10centjimmy, @Euri, @Largo833 for human moves for your factions. 

Action to @Murrman104, @DJBillyShakes, @ebrk85, @Connor to get me your CPU moves for your factions.

As a reminder, here is who is processing faction as CPUs-

@Connor has the Union Democrats (Blue 3)

@ebrk85 has the Popular Sovereignty Democrats & Liberal Democrats (Blue 4 & Blue 5)

@Murrman104 has the Old Whigs & the Know-Nothings (Red 1 & Red 2)

@DJBillyShakes has the Moderate Republicans (Red 4)

Please try to do this in the next 24 hours.  Thanks!

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Old Whigs Track

Backroom: Dewitt Clinton Senter

Legislative: John P Jones

Gov- Frank M Burn

Admin: Rufus Mallory
Mil- John F Miller

Judicial- Horace Gray

Priv- James D Porter

Remove:  George Grundy Dunn (20 Years Priv), Samuel J Kirkwood (20 Years State Exec), Lucien  Barbour (20 years State legis), Thomas Treadwell Davis (20 years Backroom)

 

Know Nothings Track

Backroom: Roscoe Conkling

Leg: William P Fyre

Gov: Isaac P Gray

Admin: John W Noble

Mil- Algernon Paddock

Judicial- William Pitt Kellogg

Private: Jeremiah Rusk

 

Remove: John Sedgwick (20 Years Mil), Daniel D pratt (20 years State Admin), William H Randall (20 Years Judicial), Thomas T Crittenden (12 years private Sector) Samuel C Fessenden  (16 Years Leg)

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18 minutes ago, Murrman104 said:

Old Whigs Track

Backroom: Dewitt Clinton Senter

Legislative: John P Jones

Gov- Frank M Burn

Admin: Rufus Mallory
Mil- John F Miller

Judicial- Horace Gray

Priv- James D Porter

Remove:  George Grundy Dunn (20 Years Priv), Samuel J Kirkwood (20 Years State Exec), Lucien  Barbour (20 years State legis), Thomas Treadwell Davis (20 years Backroom)

 

Know Nothings Track

Backroom: Roscoe Conkling

Leg: William P Fyre

Gov: Isaac P Gray

Admin: John W Noble

Mil- Algernon Paddock

Judicial- William Pitt Kellogg

Private: Jeremiah Rusk

 

Remove: John Sedgwick (20 Years Mil), Daniel D pratt (20 years State Admin), William H Randall (20 Years Judicial), Thomas T Crittenden (12 years private Sector) Samuel C Fessenden  (16 Years Leg)

Here are the gains.  Please update the pols in their faction sheets with the gains.  Also, please place the Rookies on their respective tracks (I assume I don't have to roll for anyone to go on tracks?).

RedRW gains-

Private- George Grundy Dunn- +2 Leg, +1 Admin, Nationalist, Agriculture, Celebrity, lose Obscure.
Executive- Samuel J Kirkwood- +3 Gov, Expansionist, Foreign Affairs, Charisma, Efficient.
Legislative- Lucien Barbour- +2 Legis, +1 Gov, Technology, Nationalist, Debater, Pliable, Propagandist.
Backroom- Thomas Treadwell Davis- +2 Admin, Theocrat, Military, Kingmaker, Debater, Teflon.

RedCons gains-

Military- John Sedgwick- +2 Military, Leadership, Expansionist.
Admin- Daniel D Pratt- +2 Admin, Labor, Expansionist, Egghead.
Judicial- William H Randall- +2 Judicial, Expansionist.
Private (12 yrs)- Thomas T. Crittenden- +1 Gov, +1 Admin, Technology, Propagandist.
Legislative (16 yrs)- Samuel C. Fessenden- +2 Legis, Environment, Manipulative.
 

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Here are the gains.  Please update the pols in their faction sheets with the gains.

RedRW gains-

Private- George Grundy Dunn- +2 Leg, +1 Admin, Nationalist, Agriculture, Celebrity, lose Obscure.
Executive- Samuel J Kirkwood- +3 Gov, Expansionist, Foreign Affairs, Charisma, Efficient.
Legislative- Lucien Barbour- +2 Legis, +1 Gov, Technology, Nationalist, Debater, Pliable, Propagandist.
Backroom- Thomas Treadwell Davis- +2 Admin, Theocrat, Military, Kingmaker, Debater, Teflon.

RedCons gains-

Military- John Sedgwick- +2 Military, Leadership, Expansionist.
Admin- Daniel D Pratt- +2 Admin, Labor, Expansionist, Egghead.
Judicial- William H Randall- +2 Judicial, Expansionist.
Private (12 yrs)- Thomas T. Crittenden- +1 Gov, +1 Admin, Technology, Propagandist.
Legislative (16 yrs)- Samuel C. Fessenden- +2 Legis, Environment, Manipulative.
 

I have to think that George Grundy Dunn became a celebrity because he published some type of Farmers Almanac (hence the Agriculture gain).

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Career track additions:

  • Backroom: Richard H Whiteley
  • Legislative: James G Blaine
  • Governing: John F Hartranft
  • Admin: George Robeson
  • Military: Thomas Ewing Jr
  • Judicial: Horace Austin
  • Private: Frederick Low

Removals:

  • Carlton B Curtis, Military, 20 years
  • Green Adams, Admin, 20 years
  • Charles T Sherman, Judicial, 20 years
  • Charles W Willard, Admin, 4 years
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5 minutes ago, DJBillyShakes said:

Career track additions:

  • Backroom: Richard H Whiteley
  • Legislative: James G Blaine
  • Governing: John F Hartranft
  • Admin: George Robeson
  • Military: Thomas Ewing Jr
  • Judicial: Horace Austin
  • Private: Frederick Low

Removals:

  • Carlton B Curtis, Military, 20 years
  • Green Adams, Admin, 20 years
  • Charles T Sherman, Judicial, 20 years
  • Charles W Willard, Admin, 4 years

OK, go ahead and add the rookies to their respective tracks.  I assume I don't need to roll for any of them to go on track?

Here are the gains.  Please update the pols with their gains on their faction sheet.

Military- Carlton B Curtis- +2 Military, Leadership, Expansionist.
Admin- Green Adams- +3 Admin, Business, Expansionist, Egghead.
Judicial- Charles T Sherman- +2 Judicial, Expansionist.
Admin (4 years)- Charles W Willard- +1 Leg (yes, he actually hit the 1 on a 100 die roll), Economics.

Thanks!

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22 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said:

OK, go ahead and add the rookies to their respective tracks.  I assume I don't need to roll for any of them to go on track?

Here are the gains.  Please update the pols with their gains on their faction sheet.

Military- Carlton B Curtis- +2 Military, Leadership, Expansionist.
Admin- Green Adams- +3 Admin, Business, Expansionist, Egghead.
Judicial- Charles T Sherman- +2 Judicial, Expansionist.
Admin (4 years)- Charles W Willard- +1 Leg (yes, he actually hit the 1 on a 100 die roll), Economics.

Thanks!

Updated. Yep, none of them needed rolls.

Funny that he needed a 5% roll to go off the track at all, then another 1% just to get +1 legislative from the admin track.

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BlueLW  
Private Sector Robert Stockton Green
Military Sector Daniel G Fowle
State Exec Sector Sylvester Pennoyer
State Admin Sector John T Hoffman
State Legis Sector Charles B Lore
State Judicial Sector Joseph D Bedle
Backroom Politics Sector William Mutchler

 

Removals:

Nathaniel Eldridge (20yrs Private)

Joseph A Wright (20yrs Admin)

Samuel Locke Sawyer (20yrs Judicial)

Carter Harrison Sr (8yrs Gov)

 

BlueLib  
Private Sector Charles W Kendall
Military Sector James R Chalmers
State Exec Sector Lucius Fairchild
State Admin Sector John A J Creswell
State Legis Sector Samuel N Bell
State Judicial Sector Charles Cogswell Doe
Backroom Politics Sector George Vest

 

Removals:

James Campbell (20yrs Private)

William Cozzens (20yrs Gov)

Richard Brodhead (20yrs Legis)

George Brough (20yrs Backroom)

Charles Ingersoll (12yrs Private)

William P Whyte (8yrs Admin)

 

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Additions:

  • Private: Carl Schurz
  • Military: John Schofield
  • State Exec: Shelby Cullom
  • State Admin: Redfield Proctor
  • State Legis: William B Allison
  • State Jud: Hamilton Ward Sr
  • Backroom: Chester A Arthur

Removals:

  • Joseph A Gilmore (20 years Private)
  • Alfonso Taft (20 years State Exec)
  • Henry Smith Lane (20 years State Legis)
  • James Cooper (20 years Backroom)
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59 minutes ago, ebrk85 said:

 

BlueLW  
Private Sector Robert Stockton Green
Military Sector Daniel G Fowle
State Exec Sector Sylvester Pennoyer
State Admin Sector John T Hoffman
State Legis Sector Charles B Lore
State Judicial Sector Joseph D Bedle
Backroom Politics Sector William Mutchler

 

Removals:

Nathaniel Eldridge (20yrs Private)

Joseph A Wright (20yrs Admin)

Samuel Locke Sawyer (20yrs Judicial)

Carter Harrison Sr (8yrs Gov)

 

 

BlueLib  
Private Sector Charles W Kendall
Military Sector James R Chalmers
State Exec Sector Lucius Fairchild
State Admin Sector John A J Creswell
State Legis Sector Samuel N Bell
State Judicial Sector Charles Cogswell Doe
Backroom Politics Sector George Vest

 

Removals:

James Campbell (20yrs Private)

William Cozzens (20yrs Gov)

Richard Brodhead (20yrs Legis)

George Brough (20yrs Backroom)

Charles Ingersoll (12yrs Private)

William P Whyte (8yrs Admin)

 

Here are the gains for the pols coming off career track.  Please update your pols on the sheets and go ahead and add your rookies pols to the career track.

BlueLib-

Private- James Campbell- +1 Command, +3 Admin, Expansionist, Housing, Transportation.
Executive- William C Cozzens- +3 Gov, Healthcare, Expansionist, Debater, Charisma, Controversial, Crisis Manager.
Legislative- Richard Brodhead- +2 Legis, Trade, Expansionist, Debater, Likeable.
Backroom- John Brough- +2 Admin, Science, Expansionist, Kingmaker, Orator, Master Kingmaker, Illicit.

Charles Ingersoll (12yrs Private)- +1 Admin, +1 Leg, Economics, Unlikeable.

William P Whyte (8yrs Admin)- +1 Admin, Environment.

BlueLW-

Private- Nathaniel Eldridge- +1 Leg, +2 Gov, Expansionist, Housing, Trade, Celebrity, lose Obscure, Bookkeeper.
Admin- Joseph A Wright- +2 Admin, Trade, Civil Rights, Egghead.
Judicial- Samuel Locke Sawyer- +3 Judicial, Expansionist.

Carter Harrison Sr (8yrs Gov)- +1 Gov, +1 Admin, Labor, Manipulative, Orator 

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7 minutes ago, Euri said:

Additions:

  • Private: Carl Schurz
  • Military: John Schofield
  • State Exec: Shelby Cullom
  • State Admin: Redfield Proctor
  • State Legis: William B Allison
  • State Jud: Hamilton Ward Sr
  • Backroom: Chester A Arthur

Removals:

  • Joseph A Gilmore (20 years Private)
  • Alfonso Taft (20 years State Exec)
  • Henry Smith Lane (20 years State Legis)
  • James Cooper (20 years Backroom)

Here are the gains for the pols coming off career track.  Please update your pols on the sheets and go ahead and add your rookies pols to the career track.

Private- Joseph A Gilmore- +3 Leg, +1 Admin, Expansionist, Foreign Affairs, Media, Crisis Administrator.
Executive- Alonso Taft- +3 Gov, Expansionist, Housing, Foreign Affairs, Charisma, Manipulative, Orator, Domestic Warrior.
Legis- Henry Smith Lane- +3 Legis, Labor, Expansionist, Debater.
Backroom- James Cooper- +2 Admin, Housing, Expansionist, Kingmaker.
 

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Here are the gains for the pols coming off career track.  Please update your pols on the sheets and go ahead and add your rookies pols to the career track.

BlueLib-

Private- James Campbell- +1 Command, +3 Admin, Expansionist, Housing, Transportation.
Executive- William C Cozzens- +3 Gov, Healthcare, Expansionist, Debater, Charisma, Controversial, Crisis Manager.
Legislative- Richard Brodhead- +2 Legis, Trade, Expansionist, Debater, Likeable.
Backroom- John Brough- +2 Admin, Science, Expansionist, Kingmaker, Orator, Master Kingmaker, Illicit.

Charles Ingersoll (12yrs Private)- +1 Admin, +1 Leg, Economics, Unlikeable.

William P Whyte (8yrs Admin)- +1 Admin, Environment.

BlueLW-

Private- Nathaniel Eldridge- +1 Leg, +2 Gov, Expansionist, Housing, Trade, Celebrity, lose Obscure, Bookkeeper.
Admin- Joseph A Wright- +2 Admin, Trade, Civil Rights, Egghead.
Judicial- Samuel Locke Sawyer- +3 Judicial, Expansionist.

Carter Harrison Sr (8yrs Gov)- +1 Gov, +1 Admin, Labor, Manipulative, Orator 

And Nathaniel Eldridge became a celebrity by building houses...

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11 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said:

And Nathaniel Eldridge became a celebrity by building houses...

He did a really good job with the financial books to make his housing business a success.

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Career track additions-

Private- Benjamin F Rice
Military- James B McPherson
Exec- Harris Plaisted
Admin- Jefferson Coolidge
Legis- Henry M Teller
Jud- Isaac Stephenson
Backroom- Samuel J Randall

 

Removals-

Owen Lovejoy (20 years Private)
Lucius Robinson (20 years Exec)
Cassius M Clay (20 years Legis)
Horace Greeley (20 years Backroom)

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5 minutes ago, Largo833 said:

Career track additions-

Private- Benjamin F Rice
Military- James B McPherson
Exec- Harris Plaisted
Admin- Jefferson Coolidge
Legis- Henry M Teller
Jud- Isaac Stephenson
Backroom- Samuel J Randall

 

Removals-

Owen Lovejoy (20 years Private)
Lucius Robinson (20 years Exec)
Cassius M Clay (20 years Legis)
Horace Greeley (20 years Backroom)

Here are the gains for the pols coming off career track.  Please update your pols on the sheets and go ahead and add your rookies pols to the career track.

Private- Owen Lovejoy- +3 Gov, Civil Rights, Business, Energy, Efficient, Manipulative.
Executive- Lucius Robinson- +2 Gov, Civil Rights, Technology, Charisma, Cop.
Legislative- Cassius M Clay- +3 Legis, Transportation, Civil Rights, Debater, Likeable, Propagandist. 
Backroom- Horace Greeley- +2 Admin, LW Activist, Military, Disharmonious, Propagandist, Puritan, Kingmaker, National Kingmaker.
 

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Removing 20 year career track 

Mil- John A McClernand

State Ad John Bueller

State Jud Samuel Coney

ADDING

John Thomas Caine Leg

Robert Lowery Gov

Richard Coke Jud

William B Anderson Mil

Romualdo Pacheco Admin

William M Fishback Backroom

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46 minutes ago, Connor said:

Removing 20 year career track 

Mil- John A McClernand

State Ad John Bueller

State Jud Samuel Coney

ADDING

John Thomas Caine Leg

Robert Lowery Gov

Richard Coke Jud

William B Anderson Mil

Romualdo Pacheco Admin

William M Fishback Backroom

Here are the gains for the pols coming off career track.  Please update your pols on the sheets and go ahead and add your rookies pols to the career track.

Military- John A McClernand- +1 Command, +3 Military, Leadership, Expansionist, Cop.
Admin- John B Weller- +2 Admin, Economics, Expansionist, Egghead, Uncharismatic, Geostrategist. 
Judicial- Samuel Cony- +2 Judicial, Expansionist.
 

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Private- Rufus W Cobb
Military- Roger A Pryor
Exec- J Proctor Knott 
Admin- Thomas F Bayard
Legis- Barnes Compton
Jud- Jordan Cravens
Backroom- Henry L Mitchell

20 year removals:

Private: Philip Francis Thomas

State Exec: Henry B Payne

Legis: Daniel Mace

Backroom: Horatio Seymour

 

16 year:

Military: Francis Lubbock

 

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10 hours ago, 10centjimmy said:

Private- Rufus W Cobb
Military- Roger A Pryor
Exec- J Proctor Knott 
Admin- Thomas F Bayard
Legis- Barnes Compton
Jud- Jordan Cravens
Backroom- Henry L Mitchell

20 year removals:

Private: Philip Francis Thomas

State Exec: Henry B Payne

Legis: Daniel Mace

Backroom: Horatio Seymour

 

16 year:

Military: Francis Lubbock

 

Here are the gains for the pols coming off career track.  Please update your pols on the sheets and go ahead and add your rookie pols to the career track.

Private- Philip Francis Thomas- +1 Gov, +2 Admin, Nationalist, Media, Science, Ironfist.
Executive- Henry B Payne- +2 Gov, Business, Expansionist, Charisma, Leadership, Crisis Manager, Crisis Governor.
Legislative- Daniel Mace- +2 Legis, Trade, Expansionist, Debater.
Backroom- Horatio Seymour- +2 Admin, Justice, Nationalist, Kingmaker, Disharmonious, Unlikeable, Naïve Strategist. 
Military (16 years)- Francis Lubbock- +2 Military, Efficient.

 

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OK, while we wait on @Willthescout7 for Career track additions and removals, I'll go ahead and start on politician relocations & ideology shifts.  

Please consult 2.1.4 & 2.1.5 for all the rules.  

Human actions to: @Willthescout7@10centjimmy, @Euri, @Largo833

CPU actions to: @Connor, @ebrk85, @Murrman104, @DJBillyShakes

For those doing CPU moves here are the rules:

Relocations: There’s a  20% chance the AI decides to move one of their politicians during this phase, if they have a potential move available to them.. If they roll within the 20%, they’ll randomly move an eligible politician. The politician that moves will be random among eligible politicians that are not a US Senator, US Rep, or Governor. 

Shifts: There is a 20% chance the CPU will attempt to shift three of their politicians towards: 60% toward the preferred ideology of the politician’s state, provided the shift can be made in one shift. [AB have to set Geo Ideologies] 40% toward the ideology that has the highest enthusiasm in their party, provided the shift can be made in one shift. [AB not certain how highest enthusiasm Ideology in Party is determined] They will shift no more than 5 politicians per phase, chosen randomly among those who can make the move in one shift. The CPU will always try to avoid the “two-faced” penalty. 

Let me know if you have any questions.

Please try and have these done by Noon EST tomorrow, Sept 2.  Thanks!

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