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Favorable or Unfavorable #45: Victor Berger


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Favorable or Unfavorable #45: Victor Berger  

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Victor Berger (WI-S) was the first Socialist in the US House. Milwaukee was openly socialist for several decades. 

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Berger, Victor 1898 A founding member of the Social Democratic Party of America
Berger, Victor 1901 A founding member of the Socialist Party of America
Berger, Victor 1911 first Socialist elected to Congress
Berger, Victor 1911 Proposes abolishing the US Senate
Berger, Victor 1911? Proposes abolishing the presidential veto
Berger, Victor 1917 Opposes US entry to WWI
Berger, Victor 1919 Refused seat in US House, despite reelection, for violating the Espionage Act for anti-interventionist speech
Berger, Victor 1919 Formally convicted of violating the Espionage Act and sentenced to 20 years in prison
Berger, Victor 1921 Violation of Espionage Act overturned by SC in Berger v. United States case
Berger, Victor 1923 Regains his US House seat in reelection following the 1921 SC case
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I'm passingly familiar with why some on the left wish to abolish the Senate, but the presidential veto I'm a little confused by. Especially coupled with abolishing the Senate, all you would have is the House greatly empowered with little check

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5 minutes ago, ShortKing said:

I'm passingly familiar with why some on the left wish to abolish the Senate, but the presidential veto I'm a little confused by. Especially coupled with abolishing the Senate, all you would have is the House greatly empowered with little check

I think the idea is that the House is more representative of the people and the people should have the most power.
 

I believe in reforming the veto and the Senate but not abolishing them. 

The House with a lot of power wouldn’t be too bad so long as gerrymandering was reformed and elections were competitive. You’d also need reform of the Speaker so the majority party can’t silence/ignore the minority party as much as it can. 

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8 hours ago, vcczar said:

I think the idea is that the House is more representative of the people and the people should have the most power.
 

I believe in reforming the veto and the Senate but not abolishing them. 

The House with a lot of power wouldn’t be too bad so long as gerrymandering was reformed and elections were competitive. You’d also need reform of the Speaker so the majority party can’t silence/ignore the minority party as much as it can. 

Despite being pretty far left, I'm more in line with V on this topic for the record.

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