vcczar Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 Nikki Haley of SC is currently challenging Donald Trump for the GOP nomination, and might quite possibly be the only one with an outside chance of winning the nomination, however unlikely. Haley was seen as a future GOP nominee almost as soon as she became governor. This was partially due to her being a woman minority in a party that is stereotyped as not being the party for women and minorities. Since the rise of Trump-MAGA she has been rather skillful in straddling the line of pre-Trump establishment GOP and Trump-MAGA. She also hasn't shied from opposing Trump, even while as his UN Amb, when she feels he's gone too far. I'm unsure if her resignation as UN Amb had more to do with her decision or Trump's decision. Even when she disagreed with Trump, she typically refused to villify Trump as can be seen in her rather tame negative reaction to the notorious Jan 6th insurrection. While not an action, she's already expressed that she will support Trump if he's the 2024 nominee. His actions: Haley, Nikki 2011 1st female Gov of SC, and the first Indian-American woman Gov in US history Haley, Nikki 2012 Considered for VP by Romney, but states publicly she would decline such an offer Haley, Nikki 2015 While as Gov of SC, calls for the removal of the Confederate flag at statehouse after Charleston church shooting Haley, Nikki 2016 Supports Rubio and then Cruz for pres; reluctantly votes Trump in November Haley, Nikki 2016 Considered for VP on the Trump ticket, but states she would decline being a VP Haley, Nikki 2016 Attacked by Trump on social media after she calls for him to release his taxes and accuses him of now disavowing the KKK Haley, Nikki 2017 Confirmed UN Amb for Trump, becoming the first Indian-American cabinet-level office holder Haley, Nikki 2017 Opposes Trump's "Muslim ban" while serving as his UN Amb Haley, Nikki 2017 Supports the rights of alleged Trump sex assault victims to be heard, contrary to Trump's wish Haley, Nikki 2018 Withdraws US from UN Human Rights Council; soon resigns Haley, Nikki 2021 Faults Trump's lack of leadership for Jan 6th insurrection but doesn't advocate impeachment Haley, Nikki 2024 Rep Cand for Pres; 1st non-White woman to be a GOP pres cand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted November 17 Author Share Posted November 17 I'd obviously never support her, but she passes my Rubio test for being a potential president I'd tolerate. Basically, anyone noticeably to the right of Marco Rubio is not tolerable. At that point their dangerous. Someone like Rubio and Haley could run the government, and while I wouldn't like it, I wouldn't have any domestic, economic, social, or judicial fears. I could also trust them to act rationally in a crisis. Of those remaining in the GOP primaries who are capable of making it to debates--only Haley and Christie pass my Rubio test. Trump, DeSantis, and Ramaswamy do not. My range of toleration is Bernie Sanders to Marco Rubio. My level of toleration for left-wing politicians closes when it becomes authoritarian (which really isn't left-wing because it's often counter to humanitarian government and humanitarian justice) or unscientific populism, like anti-vax (which really isn't left wing). For instance, Dennis Kucinich--once a favorite of mine--is outside of my range of tolerance for embracing RFK Jr anti-science policies. There's not a single left-wing politician who is authoritarian. I should note that COVID measures don't pass my authoritarian description because they were for an global/national emergency and were temporary and then removed as promised once the worst of the pandemic passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted November 17 Share Posted November 17 2 hours ago, vcczar said: I'd obviously never support her, but she passes my Rubio test for being a potential president I'd tolerate. Basically, anyone noticeably to the right of Marco Rubio is not tolerable. At that point their dangerous. Someone like Rubio and Haley could run the government, and while I wouldn't like it, I wouldn't have any domestic, economic, social, or judicial fears. I could also trust them to act rationally in a crisis. Of those remaining in the GOP primaries who are capable of making it to debates--only Haley and Christie pass my Rubio test. Trump, DeSantis, and Ramaswamy do not. My range of toleration is Bernie Sanders to Marco Rubio. My level of toleration for left-wing politicians closes when it becomes authoritarian (which really isn't left-wing because it's often counter to humanitarian government and humanitarian justice) or unscientific populism, like anti-vax (which really isn't left wing). For instance, Dennis Kucinich--once a favorite of mine--is outside of my range of tolerance for embracing RFK Jr anti-science policies. There's not a single left-wing politician who is authoritarian. I should note that COVID measures don't pass my authoritarian description because they were for an global/national emergency and were temporary and then removed as promised once the worst of the pandemic passed. Yeah, I'm not gonna vote for her and don't like her policies, but I think we'd survive them at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pius XIII Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Is she a perfect candidate? No. But in my opinion she is the best candidate running among the current/former GOP 2024 candidates, and the one that Democrats would probably be most afraid to face. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) I dont think anyone except trump and christie are bad in gop primary Edited November 18 by Bushwa777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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