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  1. 1. Which Author List Most Appeals to You, if you were forced to read all of these authors for a class-- Note: I had about 20 books to list for each category and I picked 6 for each based of name recognition or number of books they produced.

    • Authoritarian left authors: 1) Mao Zedong, 2) Vladimir Lenin, 3) Fidel Castro, 4) Kim Jong Il, 5) Samir Amin, and 6) Kristen Godsee
      1
    • Authoritarian right authors: 1) Tom Nichols, 2) Jordan Peterson, 3) Irving Kristol, 4) Pat Buchanan, 5) William F Buckley, 6) Adolf Hitler
      2
    • Libertarian left authors: 1) Cornel West, 2) Naomi Klein, 3) David Graeber, 4) Howard Zinn, 5) Edward Said, 6) Noam Chomsky
      9
    • Libertarian right authors: 1) Ron Paul, 2) Milton Friedman, 3) Richard Maybury, 4) Ayn Rand, 5) F A Hayak, 6) Eric Beinhocker
      4

  2. 2. Which governments have a model of government that you mostly admire?

  3. 3. Which of the following do you have a favorable view of?

  4. 4. Which form of "government" is preferable if you were fated to live in one or the other?

    • Anarcho-capitalism
      5
    • Anarcho-socialism
      11

  5. 5. Which form of government is preferable if you were fated to live in one or the other?

    • Authoritarian Totalitarian Capitalism
      8
    • Authoritarian Totalitarian Socialism
      8

  6. 6. Who is preferable?

  7. 7. Who is preferable?

    • David Duke
      0
    • Hillary Clinton
      16

  8. 8. Which do you favor?

  9. 9. Which is more important?

    • That the Federal Government have laws to prevent or deter discrimination.
      12
    • That people be allowed to discriminate without fear or meddling of the Federal Government.
      4

  10. 10. Which is more important?

    • That the Federal Government be allowed to force states to comply with voting rights?
      15
    • That local and state government be able to restrict or discourage voting as they see fit without the meddling of the Federal Government?
      1

  11. 11. Which of these should be allowable and free of Federal intervention?

    • Businesses should be allowed to fire any of their employees for any reason, even if they seek to do so to discriminate.
      3
    • Businesses should be allowed to discriminate among consumers, refusing to make business with anyone for any reason.
      4
    • Businesses should be free of environmental regulations.
      2
    • Businesses should be free of labor regulations, employing people of any age, paying workers as high or as little as they wish, etc.
      2
    • Businesses should be allowed to become as large as they wish, free of any anti-monopoly/anti-trust regulations.
      1
    • Businesses should be allowed to charge as much or as little as they wish, even if they have a monopoly of an industry.
      1
    • All of these need Federal intervention to provide necessary regulations
      12

  12. 12. Which of these statements on Healthcare do you agree with?

    • Decent Healthcare should only be available for those who can pay for it.
      1
    • The wealthy should be able to pay more so they can jump a list of critically-ill people waiting for a life-saving organ transplant.
      1
    • Healthcare should never be denied to anyone in need of it.
      13
    • Paying for needed healthcare should never impoverish anyone.
      15
    • I disagree with all of these statements.
      1

  13. 13. Which of these statements on taxation do you agree with?

    • Everyone should have their taxes raised.
      2
    • Wealthier people should pay a higher % of taxation so that poorer people can pay a lower % of tax.
      12
    • Regardless of the tax rate, all people, regardless of income group, should pay the same amount of taxation.
      2
    • Wealthier people should pay a lower % of taxation than poorer people because they create jobs and boost the economy.
      0
    • Everyone should have their taxes lowered.
      4
    • Income tax should not exist.
      2
    • A tax on wealth -- such as an estate tax and similar taxes -- should not exist.
      1
    • Special taxation on tobacco products, alcohol, sodas--aimed at "improving our health" and other similar well-intended reasons--should not exist.
      1
    • Taxation should be voluntary.
      0
    • Taxation should only exist in the form of a sales tax.
      1
    • No taxation should exist.
      1
    • I don't agree with any of these
      1

  14. 14. Which of the following is more important than the other? (obviously all my questions have a middle ground, but if you had to choose one or the other)

    • Businesses should keep business costs low so that consumer prices are lower, profits are higher, and businesses can better expand and provide more jobs.
      6
    • Businesses should increase wages and benefits of their workers since human decency and quality of life is more important than low prices, expanded production, higher employment, and high profits.
      10

  15. 15. Which of the following tags would you apply to your ideal personal political, governing ideology?

    • Establishment
      3
    • Populist
      6
    • Democratic (in the Democracy sense, not the party)
      12
    • Republican (in the Republic sense, not the party)
      12
    • Libertarian (in the non-authoritarian sense, not the party)
      6
    • Authoritarian
      1
    • Progressive
      12
    • Liberal
      7
    • Moderate
      4
    • Conservative
      6
    • Traditionalist
      2
    • Theocracy
      3
    • Equality
      12
    • Equity
      7
    • Meritocratic
      8
    • Communist
      0
    • Democratic Socialist
      6
    • Social Democracy
      9
    • Fascist
      0
    • Anarcho-Capitalist
      1
    • Anarcho-Socialist
      1
    • Capitalist
      7
    • Monarchial
      3
    • Plutocracy
      0
    • Humanist
      6
    • Neoconservative
      3
    • Oligarchy
      1
    • Patriarchy
      2
    • Geniocracy
      2
    • Isolationist
      1
    • Nationalist
      4
    • Globalist
      5
    • Internationalist
      9
    • Independent
      4
    • Non-partisan
      9
    • Secular
      5
    • Ethical
      10
    • Moral
      10
    • Technocracy
      4
    • Aristocracy
      2
    • Darwinian
      1
    • Activist Government
      9
    • Limited Government
      6
    • Other (mention below)
      0

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Timur

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5 minutes ago, Patine said:

I'm wondering how many people will actually consider Trump worse than, and actually nastier and more awful to live under, than, "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hajj Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular," and think the latter is preferable, especially given a lot of the hyperbole in the zeitgeist around Trump as a leader, even in comparison to certain historical ones (as I've said, Americans don't seem know how good they have it when they gripe about such things). I've know at least three people who've lived in Uganda.

Yeah, I remember reading that he shot an Anglican clergyman (I don't remember if he was the archbishop or bishop, or something lower) right in the mouth.

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11 minutes ago, Patine said:

I'm wondering how many people will actually consider Trump worse than, and actually nastier and more awful to live under, than, "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hajj Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular," and think the latter is preferable, especially given a lot of the hyperbole in the zeitgeist around Trump as a leader, even in comparison to certain historical ones (as I've said, Americans don't seem know how good they have it when they gripe about such things). I've know at least three people who've lived in Uganda.

Yeah, that question and the David Duke question are to see who is unreasonably partisan. 

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OK, I did not like any of author lists. I would like to read Buckley and Kristol, but the rest, no.

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"Healthcare should never be denied to anyone in need of it." I failed to notice this option.

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4 minutes ago, Timur said:

OK, I did not like any of author lists. I would like to read Buckley and Kristol, but the rest, no.

Same. I'd read both from Auth Right and Lib right. But Hitler being included turned me away from selecting that outright. 

Just know that I'd read a mix of both of those 😛 

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4 minutes ago, Timur said:

OK, I did not like any of author lists. I would like to read Buckley and Kristol, but the rest, no.

Tom Nichols seems to be OK as well. Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Castro, etc. would be interesting if I don't get influenced by them

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Just now, Patine said:

I actually, in my tumultuous, bad-ideas, developing-puberty-brain, and impressionable junior days, and far moreso out of sheer curiosity (and the fact an English translation just happened to be in my school library - you WOULDN'T find that today) read Mein Kampf. I was ascertain, a worse, vicious, rage-filled, "tear-down-the-world, because Jews and Communists ruined it," hateful screed, you will indeed be hard-pressed to find. And his grammar and presentation are about as bad my worst-constructed posts. 😵

I'll admit I've had the urge to read it myself before. But I've just never come around to doing it. I'd really have to prepare myself... 😛 Books by crazy men in jail are always... well. Pretty damn crazy I'd imagine. So I don't doubt you at all 😛 

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BTW, Kim Jong-un didn't publish any books, as far as I know. His father and grandfather did, and their writings are held sacred in their country. Kim Il-sung wrote an "autobiography," though it's really ghostwritten fiction.

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57 minutes ago, Patine said:

 "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hajj Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular," 

OK, this is funnier than North Korea's titles.

Also, not only is that title comical, but I also remember reading that his death squads wore flowery shirts, bell-bottom buckles, and elevator shoes.

He certainly seems to have been worse than Trump on immigration.

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Well, I'm gonna pull a Patine and say I cannot complete the poll because of question #7 and my inability to chose either of those horrible/evil people.

As for reading different literature from various groups, I actually welcome the opportunity to learn more about opposing viewpoints for educational purposes. That is why I have read the Communist Manifesto many times and am not against reading works from people I disagree with/are evil people.  Having a more complete understanding of things is not a bad thing, even if firmly entrenched in your beliefs.

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14 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Well, I'm gonna pull a Patine and say I cannot complete the poll because of question #7 and my inability to chose either of those horrible/evil people.

As for reading different literature from various groups, I actually welcome the opportunity to learn more about opposing viewpoints for educational purposes. That is why I have read the Communist Manifesto many times and am not against reading works from people I disagree with/are evil people.  Having a more complete understanding of things is not a bad thing, even if firmly entrenched in your beliefs.

Well if you cant make a choice between the Nazi idiot who is a former KKK leader and slightly corrupt politician you disagree with,then it's you who are the problem.I didn't have an issue to choose an awful human being that Trump is in #6

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1 minute ago, Rodja said:

Well if you cant make a choice between the Nazi idiot who is a former KKK leader and slightly corrupt politician you disagree with,then it's you who are the problem.I didn't have an issue to choose an awful human being that Trump is in #6

Clinton is more than a corrupt politician. She is likely associated with the deaths of other people and maintains many backroom connections. When both are evil, I don't have a responsibility to select one of the evils (and being considered mainstream does not make it any better, in fact it might be worse that people are more ok with it than not).

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8 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Clinton is more than a corrupt politician. She is likely associated with the deaths of other people and maintains many backroom connections. When both are evil, I don't have a responsibility to select one of the evils (and being considered mainstream does not make it any better, in fact it might be worse that people are more ok with it than not).

Just to be clear i heavily dislike Clinton too and find no joy in defending her but her association with any murders have not been proven.Yes,she is corrupt.Yes,she is nowhere near progressive enough.Yes,she favors top 1% over people.Yes,she supported many unnecessary wars.Having said all this she is not a murderer,pedo,child rapist or any other silly thing far right has called her over the years.And yes she is better than Duke,Trump or Idi Amin Dada.

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10 minutes ago, Rodja said:

Having said all this she is not a murderer,pedo,child rapist or any other silly thing far right has called her over the years.

Her husband might be of this breed.

Also, I question her leadership.

Everything [Clinton] touches she kind of screws up with hubris", - Colin Powell

"I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect." - Colin Powell

That being said, I will take her over Duke any time.

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20 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

She is likely associated with the deaths of other people and maintains many backroom connections.

Jeffery Epstein Memes

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5 minutes ago, Timur said:

Her husband might be of this breed.

Also, I question her leadership.

Everything [Clinton] touches she kind of screws up with hubris", - Colin Powell

"I would rather not have to vote for her, although she is a friend I respect." - Colin Powell

That being said, I will take her over Duke any time.

Yeah,there is some serious evidence Bill might be a creep.

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2 hours ago, Patine said:

Even if there is no sexual perversion to her (giving the benefit of the doubt, here), Hillary Clinton is obviously just as morally bankrupt, all-in-all, as Trump. This just manifests in different areas of wickedness, vileness, repugnance, and inhuman policies.

Bad take.

Hillary Clinton wanted to be the hero who saves the world -- regardless of what she had to do to become that hero.  

That's morally imperfect and ego-driven, absolutely.  But also a far cry from Trump's just absolute soullessness.  At least the world actually BEING saved was an intended side effect of Hillary's ego trip.  Trump's entire goal was just to burn his enemies and evade tax investigation by claiming executive privilege.  

It's intellectually bankrupt to claim they are equal.

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53 minutes ago, Patine said:

I'm not convinced of her intentions. She was slimy as Hell, and surrounded by, and working closely, with soullessly evil people with little regard for the lives or well-being of the great majority of people. I firmly believe - though no one can ever know for sure, but I think enough clues are there - that so many say with such certainty and firmness Clinton would have been better is because she didn't actually win, and her brand of evil - different, very much so, than Trump's, but still repugnant - never had to be endured or lived under by comparison. And the wording of your post sounds like you believe we live in a world of actual, clearly-defined, "heroes," and, "villains." But that's comicbooks and movies (and even then, not all comicbooks and movies), not the real world.

And, for the record, people who disagree with you sharply, even on issues you're very sensitive about, are not necessarily, or even greatly likely, to be, "intellectually bankrupt," or otherwise cognitively impaired in some way, so I think that's a tactic of debate you should abandon right now before it kills a huge degree of your credibility and integrity in promoting your ideas.

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For the record. I hate Hillary just as much as anybody. And her husband. 

But if some jokers can't make the choice of David Duke against her... I've lost some more faith in humanity. 

 

 

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