Who would you vote in Wyoming 2022 House of Representatives Republican Primary election?

[Timur]

Since Wyoming is such a red district, the primary matters more than the general election.

[jvikings1]

Marissa Selvig looks to be pretty solid, but it would be difficult for her to win. I would settle in this case to ultimately support whoever has the best chance of throwing her warmongering ass out of Congress.

[Fbarbarossa]

24 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Marissa Selvig looks to be pretty solid, but it would be difficult for her to win. I would settle in this case to ultimately support whoever has the best chance of throwing her warmongering ass out of Congress.

Would you vote Democrat?

[Pringles]

28 minutes ago, jvikings1 said:

Marissa Selvig looks to be pretty solid, but it would be difficult for her to win. I would settle in this case to ultimately support whoever has the best chance of throwing her warmongering ass out of Congress.

I'd take a warmongering ass over a trump ****sucker any day of the week. 🙂

[jvikings1]

8 minutes ago, Fbarbarossa said:

Would you vote Democrat?

Depends on what they stood for overall. The candidates opposing Cheney in the R primary say good things on their websites, though not every person is going to live up to their promises. That's what makes me comfortable saying I would support whichever one has the best chance of giving her the boot. If a Democrat ran on a platform which I could tolerate, then that would be a possibility.

[ConservativeElector2]

1 hour ago, jvikings1 said:

Marissa Selvig looks to be pretty solid, but it would be difficult for her to win. I would settle in this case to ultimately support whoever has the best chance of throwing her warmongering ass out of Congress.

 

1 hour ago, Pringles said:

I'd take a warmongering ass over a trump ****sucker any day of the week. 🙂

I don't care about her warmongering nor about her bad relationship to Trump. The reason I'd vote her out immediately is that she's constantly giving talking points to the opponent, sowing unnecessary division and caring more about being the liberal media's darling instead of delivering for her constituents.

[vcczar]

I can't really say much in regards to this race. No Democrats or other liberal party has a shot. It's either Liz Cheney or a MAGA politicians. It's like choosing if you want to die of cancer or AIDS. Cheney at least opposes a lot of the worst parts of Trump. The MAGA politician might be less interventionist-minded, but that's not really a concern if we aren't aiming for war. If I were in Wyoming, I'd reluctantly vote Cheney, and then immediately move from the state.

[Hestia]

12 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

 

I don't care about her warmongering nor about her bad relationship to Trump. The reason I'd vote her out immediately is that she's constantly giving talking points to the opponent, sowing unnecessary division and caring more about being the liberal media's darling instead of delivering for her constituents.

I'm sure those harping about the 2020 election are really delivering for their constituents...

[Pringles]

15 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

 

I don't care about her warmongering nor about her bad relationship to Trump. The reason I'd vote her out immediately is that she's constantly giving talking points to the opponent, sowing unnecessary division and caring more about being the liberal media's darling instead of delivering for her constituents.

"Caring more about being the liberal media's darling." 

I disagree. I think she's standing up for what's right and that's the fact that the 2020 election was not rigged against Donald Trump. 

The liberal media likes to pick up and exploit that but it is of no real concern, nor agenda of her own. 

We need more Liz Cheney's, Glenn Youngkins, and Larry Hogans in this party. 

Not more Trumpists. 

[ConservativeElector2]

21 minutes ago, Pringles said:

We need more Liz Cheney's, Glenn Youngkins, and Larry Hogans in this party.

I agree with Glenn Youngkin wholeheartedly. At least we haven't seen him constantly handing out talking points to the opponents. Hogan and Cheney might be somewhat identical, but Cheney seems to be portrayed as the flag-bearer of the right-wingers loved by the liberal media. However, you don't have to seem like a victim of the Trump derangement syndrome to come off as a very sane politician. See Youngkin, he's the best example for keeping his distance to Trump but he doesn't want to be liked by the media.

[Dobs]

On 11/10/2021 at 3:12 PM, ConservativeElector2 said:

I agree with Glenn Youngkin wholeheartedly. At least we haven't seen him constantly handing out talking points to the opponents. Hogan and Cheney might be somewhat identical, but Cheney seems to be portrayed as the flag-bearer of the right-wingers loved by the liberal media. However, you don't have to seem like a victim of the Trump derangement syndrome to come off as a very sane politician. See Youngkin, he's the best example for keeping his distance to Trump but he doesn't want to be liked by the media.

I have never seen this from Cheney. She constantly goes on the air to talk about conservative values and why the GOP is the best choice for the American people. Yes, it's true that at times she does this from the lion's den of progressivism on air, but I think this deserves even more praise. Because instead of hiding in an echo chamber and saying these things, she is bringing unabashedly conservative principles like the free market, individual liberty, and a strong national defense right to the opposing viewpoint's audience. 

[DakotaHale]

On 11/10/2021 at 3:12 PM, ConservativeElector2 said:

I agree with Glenn Youngkin wholeheartedly. At least we haven't seen him constantly handing out talking points to the opponents. Hogan and Cheney might be somewhat identical, but Cheney seems to be portrayed as the flag-bearer of the right-wingers loved by the liberal media. However, you don't have to seem like a victim of the Trump derangement syndrome to come off as a very sane politician. See Youngkin, he's the best example for keeping his distance to Trump but he doesn't want to be liked by the media.

Glenn Youngkin ran a perfect conservative campaign that I think the rest of the GOP should learn from. He didn’t demonize Trump like Cheney (and lose the MAGA vote; that’s why he had a high turnout in rural counties), but he didn’t coddle him like the rest of the GOP (and lose the independent suburbia vote we saw him win). He ignored 2020 and ran on the issues (school choice, getting kids back in school) and won over suburbia and votes in a +10D state while McAuliffe attempted to make the election about Trump in an election that was about Biden’s declining approval and the unpopularity of COVID protocols (particularly in the school system).

Can’t speak for New Jersey because I didn’t follow that election but I assume it was a similar situation.

California recall was a prime example of how not to run a campaign (a Republican or competent Democrat was probably never going to win there anyways but still), Larry Elder was vocal about his support for Trump and allowed him to be a focal point of the campaign and didn’t run on any specific issues and the election went from a within 4% recall to Elder getting absolutely demolished.

[DakotaHale]

1 minute ago, Patine said:

 

 

Of there only being one right-wing party, and one leftish party that has any chance of winning still handicaps a lot of these campaigns - and the electoral choice the voters truly have. Basically, the fact that Youngkin and Cheney MUST be in the same party as Trump, and only truly run against one other opposing party of note, and thus only two real viewpoints are truly expressed in any given General Election. But fixing that - one of the most crippling problems with the U.S. electoral system (alongside the inordinate role of big money donors with little restrictions) can only be solved with reform of the actual way elections work - but since the leadership and main candidates of both major parties have no appetite for electoral reform, because they are the two parties that benefit from the broken system, that is still a major problem...

Somehow you have the ability to turn every discussion into a critique of the American political duopoly. I could be talking about Cheez-It’s and you’ll note how the abundance of flavors is preferable to the American political system. (I prefer the extra toasted original).

[jvikings1]

12 hours ago, DakotaHale said:

Glenn Youngkin ran a perfect conservative campaign that I think the rest of the GOP should learn from. He didn’t demonize Trump like Cheney (and lose the MAGA vote; that’s why he had a high turnout in rural counties), but he didn’t coddle him like the rest of the GOP (and lose the independent suburbia vote we saw him win). He ignored 2020 and ran on the issues (school choice, getting kids back in school) and won over suburbia and votes in a +10D state while McAuliffe attempted to make the election about Trump in an election that was about Biden’s declining approval and the unpopularity of COVID protocols (particularly in the school system).

Can’t speak for New Jersey because I didn’t follow that election but I assume it was a similar situation.

California recall was a prime example of how not to run a campaign (a Republican or competent Democrat was probably never going to win there anyways but still), Larry Elder was vocal about his support for Trump and allowed him to be a focal point of the campaign and didn’t run on any specific issues and the election went from a within 4% recall to Elder getting absolutely demolished.

The electoral environment of a state should also be considered. In Virginia, Youngkin ran a great campaign based on its demographics. He's going to be one of the more conservative people that could win in a state like that.

In Wyoming, you expect someone to be very conservative. So someone who votes like Cheney allows (and should encourage) for someone to challenge from the right.

[ConservativeElector2]

12 hours ago, DakotaHale said:

Glenn Youngkin ran a perfect conservative campaign that I think the rest of the GOP should learn from. He didn’t demonize Trump like Cheney (and lose the MAGA vote; that’s why he had a high turnout in rural counties), but he didn’t coddle him like the rest of the GOP (and lose the independent suburbia vote we saw him win). He ignored 2020 and ran on the issues (school choice, getting kids back in school) and won over suburbia and votes in a +10D state while McAuliffe attempted to make the election about Trump in an election that was about Biden’s declining approval and the unpopularity of COVID protocols (particularly in the school system).

Can’t speak for New Jersey because I didn’t follow that election but I assume it was a similar situation.

California recall was a prime example of how not to run a campaign (a Republican or competent Democrat was probably never going to win there anyways but still), Larry Elder was vocal about his support for Trump and allowed him to be a focal point of the campaign and didn’t run on any specific issues and the election went from a within 4% recall to Elder getting absolutely demolished.

Absolutely true. Youngkin's campaign tactics are the key to be successful.

New Jersey's Ciattarelli ran a less conservative campaign, but given NJ being more blue than VA it's just logical. Trump didn't even endorse Ciattarelli to my knowledge. I don't think he lost because the MAGA votes didn't turn out. He would have made a formidable Governor.

Yeah California... Elder was never ''my'' candidate. I don't like these loudmouths campaigns. They can't win especially in purple or blue places. I was in Faulconer's camp, because he had a shot. He should have been the only Republican candidate.

[DakotaHale]

25 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

Absolutely true. Youngkin's campaign tactics are the key to be successful.

New Jersey's Ciattarelli ran a less conservative campaign, but given NJ being more blue than VA it's just logical. Trump didn't even endorse Ciattarelli to my knowledge. I don't think he lost because the MAGA votes didn't turn out. He would have made a formidable Governor.

Yeah California... Elder was never ''my'' candidate. I don't like these loudmouths campaigns. They can't win especially in purple or blue places. I was in Faulconer's camp, because he had a shot. He should have been the only Republican candidate.

I actually supported the Democrat Kevin Paffrath and to date him and Tulsi Gabbard remain my only political donations. (Though I will donate to Herschel Walker soon).

[Hestia]

6 minutes ago, DakotaHale said:

I actually supported the Democrat Kevin Paffrath and to date him and Tulsi Gabbard remain my only political donations. (Though I will donate to Herschel Walker soon).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/28/herschel-walker-sean-parnell-josh-mandel-past/

[DakotaHale]

22 minutes ago, Hestia said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/28/herschel-walker-sean-parnell-josh-mandel-past/

Maybe not. Always hated Josh Mandel too. Beta male. Husted has been the man in Ohio. 

[ConservativeElector2]

1 hour ago, DakotaHale said:

Maybe not. Always hated Josh Mandel too. Beta male. Husted has been the man in Ohio. 

I am no Mandel fan either, but the article only states that he dates a "subordinate" and that some staffers have quit because of his girlfriend is creating a toxic work atmosphere. I don't know why the author here invokes the MeToo-campaign when someone's dating a staffer. Obviously this woman dates Mandel voluntarily and why shouldn't two consenting adults be allowed to date each other regardless of their working relationship? If his girlfriend is to blame for the working climate it's also her fault and not necessarily his as well. Sounds more like the Ohio candidate had to be included in some way.

 

[Hestia]

33 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

I am no Mandel fan either, but the article only states that he dates a "subordinate" and that some staffers have quit because of his girlfriend is creating a toxic work atmosphere. I don't know why the author here invokes the MeToo-campaign when someone's dating a staffer. Obviously this woman dates Mandel voluntarily and why shouldn't two consenting adults be allowed to date each other regardless of their working relationship? If his girlfriend is to blame for the working climate it's also her fault and not necessarily his as well. Sounds more like the Ohio candidate had to be included in some way.

 

That wasn't really the point of me linking the article but good job searching for something to back up what you wanted to see.

[ConservativeElector2]

8 minutes ago, Hestia said:

That wasn't really the point of me linking the article but good job searching for something to back up what you wanted to see.

? 

@DakotaHale brought in Mandel, so I pointed out that Mandel faces here the least credible allegations, because what is mentioned is hardly an allegation at all - even as a non-Mandel fan I have to admit that. 

I could have said something about the other three mentioned candidates as well, but didn't feel it to be necessary. Parnell and Greitens haven't even been mentioned in the forum.

[ConservativeElector2]

2 hours ago, Patine said:

 

Do I get an answer here, @ConservativeElector2? This is actually a question I've been seriously wondering about for quite while...

To end being tagged various times on the same topic (if I don't respond, I probably don't want a debate), I'll tell you again what I might have told you already many times.

Here you go: just because one candidate has a questionnable character, it's definitely no reason to switch into the camp of a less vocal but overall worse opponent. Furthermore it's not really relevant if Trump is a conservative or not. Clinton's none as well and her party or style of governing isn't either contrary to Trump's. If my statements are too anemic for your taste, fine, that's probably the case because I see little sense in ranting on an Internet forum about things I and most others can't change anyway. It's fine if we can settle it here, thank you!

[jvikings1]

23 hours ago, DakotaHale said:

Husted has been the man in Ohio. 

Na, Husted sucks after he got himself in with the DeWine camp (which might cost him his political career)

[jvikings1]

22 hours ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

I am no Mandel fan either, but the article only states that he dates a "subordinate" and that some staffers have quit because of his girlfriend is creating a toxic work atmosphere. I don't know why the author here invokes the MeToo-campaign when someone's dating a staffer. Obviously this woman dates Mandel voluntarily and why shouldn't two consenting adults be allowed to date each other regardless of their working relationship? If his girlfriend is to blame for the working climate it's also her fault and not necessarily his as well. Sounds more like the Ohio candidate had to be included in some way.

 

It is not a wise thing to be dating someone on his campaign, but it is far from a scandal. The worse thing for Mandel is him cheating on his wife on multiple occasions. But even then, it isn't really isn't something that is going to affect him too much in today's world. That's my biggest turnoff to him; however, he's still better than JD Vance.

Edited November 15, 2021 by jvikings1

[jvikings1]

Rep. Liz Cheney ousted from Wyoming GOP (msn.com)

 

She's got the state party against her as well now. Hopefully just another step towards ending Cheney's disgraceful career in Congress!