vcczar Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I was in High School when he was the GOP nominee. I remember no one thought he had a chance of winning. I remember he seemed ancient then, and that was 25 years ago. He was about 72. I also remember that he came out with a book titled "Presidential Humor" or something like that. He argued that the best presidents generally seemed to have a sense of humor. I perused it in a bookstore. Dole was also the VP nominee for Ford back in 1976, when he was about 52. Dole was also the only former GOP nominee for president or GOP president to endorse Trump in 2016 or 2020. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Bob Dole. He'll surely be missed. Honestly I would have voted for him. There's a really great book about him written by Richard Ben Cramer which gives a bit of insight into Dole and his 1988 campaign along with the other candidates too. Dole was always so funny too which is one of the things I remember about him. Oh and his commercials on television were pretty cool, Viagra anyone? Rest in Peace and may we have more Bob Dole's in the future! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Rest in Peace. I don't agree with much of what he stood for, but he was an honorable man. I wish we had more Republicans like him, and McCain, and less like Trump, and MTG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, WVProgressive said: Rest in Peace. I don't agree with much of what he stood for, but he was an honorable man. I wish we had more Republicans like him, and McCain, and less like Trump, and MTG. I lost a lot of respect for him when he endorsed Trump in 2016 when most of the honorable Republicans did not. I like to think that it was Dole's age that was affecting his judgment. Of all the GOP nominees in my life time, he ranks pretty low (from best to worst): Romney Bush I McCain Bush II Reagan Dole Trump I think it's also clear that I don't believe in the time-honored custom of praising or respecting the recently dead. Praise and respect have to be earned. He's certainly done some praiseworthy and respectful actions and statements, but I found that generally, in policy, in action, and rhetoric that he generally toed-the-line in what I consider to be the worst parts of Republican ideology--social conservatism. My dislike for Dole as a politician isn't strong, but it is certainly there. As a person, he was certainly someone I probably would have liked hanging out with much of the time. He did have a sense of humor and could be personable when he wanted to be. If anything, I'll respect his humor and his service prior to politics, but as a politician, he's just one in a long line of politicians that delay social progress. Obviously, this is my opinion and not necessarily a statement of fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 May he Rest in Peace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobs Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Just as when we lost Secretary Powell, I find myself in mourning for the loss of Senator Dole. He was a national hero and political giant. I am proud to call him one in a long line of leaders of integrity and resolve of my party. As kitten said, here’s to the next generation; that they may be men and women imbued with the spirit, purpose, and heart of Bob Dole. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Rip Chad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Patine said: Chester Arthur, One of the most underrated presidents IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Patine said: Only brought up with the other two for the shared quality of never being elected as President in their own right, but serving as such in more than just brief, "acting," stints. 😉 President Arthur is one of the presidents that I view most fondly - it is impressive to benefit from a rigged system and then be the one to begin tearing it down. His meritocratic reforms were impressive, and I believe that he'd surely have been a better president than Cleveland. Not to mention, cool sideburns, no? 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DakotaHale Posted December 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2021 I heard Bob Dole just registered as a Democrat 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: I heard Bob Dole just registered as a Democrat Bah gawd! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: I heard Bob Dole just registered as a Democrat Bah gawd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, DakotaHale said: I heard Bob Dole just registered as a Democrat Smh... just like in 1960. The cemetery wards have always turned out high for the Democrats. 😉 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Pringles said: Smh... just like in 1960. The cemetery wards have always turned out high for the Democrats. 😉 😛 NIXON WAS RIGHT! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kitten said: NIXON WAS RIGHT! #NIXONWONILLINOIS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pringles said: #NIXONWONILLINOIS And Texas too maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, DakotaHale said: And Texas too maybe You know, the mail in ballots meme really started in 1960. They called California for Kennedy... but then the good old absentee ballots got counted and Nixon won the state by the later morning. Talk about a reverse uno card... too bad it wouldn't matter in the end. 😭 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Pringles said: You know, the mail in ballots meme really started in 1960. They called California for Kennedy... but then the good old absentee ballots got counted and Nixon won the state by the later morning. Talk about a reverse uno card... too bad it wouldn't matter in the end. 😭 Do you think Nixon would have been a better president starting in 1961 than 1969? Assume 2 terms and no Watergate for both scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, DakotaHale said: Do you think Nixon would have been a better president starting in 1961 than 1969? Assume 2 terms and no Watergate for both scenarios. Without a doubt. Yes. I think the perceptions of his first term wouldnt be as good as they were IRL. I mean, let's look at 68-72. Man on the moon, law and order agenda, tackling inflation. Economy is booming by 72, detente, and cleverly perceived reportings of success in Vietnam. But Nixons mental health overall would have been a lot better had he been elected in 1961. Vietnam would've been handled 10x better in my opinion. What would be interesting is how the southern strategy played out. I think itd be a bit slower but Nixon was already making ventures in the border south. I still think Nixon would've began a space program as well. So yeah. I think itd be a lot better and hed be more fondly remembered. His mental health is a big variable here. The assassination of Kennedy, King, and constant checkmate concerning scandals with LBJ would not have been there if Nixon won 1960. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Another thing I forgot. His embarrassing defeat in the 1962 California Governor's race would not have happened. That loss really changed him. And strengthened his resolve, and made him more... willing to do what it takes for victory. Nixon was always awkward. But between the assassinations, political conflicts, and fear of embarrassment, it really affected his mental health bad by the time he was President. I read a book once where it said he had a secret doctor and was getting prescribed Dilantin... hed take it excessively. It was bad. Not good at all. 😕 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I was five years old when he ran for President, so I have no memory of his campaign (my first memory of elections was 1992 Bush Sr. vs Clinton and Perot). Yet I do remember seeing his Viagra commercials and thinking 'Wait, Bob Dole is funny. Why wasn't he funny during his campaign? He could have won!" Ha. I just looked it up, and apparently the Viagra commercials weren't until 1998 (ten years later, when I was 15). I would have had no idea whether Bob Dole actually was funny when I was 5, so I must have heard that analysis somewhere and internalized it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 For my Bob Dole tribute, I'll be making a 1996 remastered/remake scenario for President infinity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, Patine said: I still have the candidate photos and many other assets from my early version for P4E2008 I mentioned above, if that would be helpful. Send em my way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 46 minutes ago, Patine said: Wait, I think I might have your address in my list. Is it a name before the domain with the initials, "S.F." and a Spanish- or Portuguese-derived last name, perchance? S.F are definitely my initials 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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