Thinking Ahead

[vcczar]

Just want to see where the interest is. I'll definitely pick whichever I'm most interested in at the moment. Some of these would take more time than others. If I had the funds and manpower I'd try to make them all simultaneously 🙂

[Kitten]

Japanese version of AMPU 😛

kinda like the Victorian one you mentioned above 🙂

It could be fun to manage factions and ultimately reform the country from a one party state to a multiparty democracy or the two party system.

[Kitten]

Just now, Patine said:

Or have either the hard-right-wing revanchist Neo-Imperialists or the unusually large Japanese Communist Party take power.

Indeed!

[vcczar]

27 minutes ago, Kitten said:

Japanese version of AMPU 😛

kinda like the Victorian one you mentioned above 🙂

It could be fun to manage factions and ultimately reform the country from a one party state to a multiparty democracy or the two party system.

 

8 minutes ago, Patine said:

Or have either the hard-right-wing revanchist Neo-Imperialists or the unusually large Japanese Communist Party take power.

My knowledge of Japanese history, aside some basic knowledge of the Nobunaga era, is very limited. Couldn't make that kind of game. 

[Kitten]

41 minutes ago, vcczar said:

 

My knowledge of Japanese history, aside some basic knowledge of the Nobunaga era, is very limited. Couldn't make that kind of game. 

Nothing like a bit of research to get the brain flowing haha. But seriously that's understandable.

[vcczar]

Just now, Kitten said:

Nothing like a bit of research to get the brain flowing haha. But seriously that's understandable.

For me my knowledge is like this:

US history - A+

UK history - B  [know more than the basics and am somewhat conversant in many parts of the history but have blind spots]

French, German, Russian, Italian, history - C [know the basics and am conversant in parts of the history but have more blind spots]

Other European history, except very small countries - D [I think I know the basics but that's about all]

History of countries outside the US and Europe, including Mexico and Canada - F  I know about things here and there but only so far as they relate to the nations I know more about. 

[ConservativeElector2]

11 hours ago, Kitten said:

Japanese version of AMPU 😛

kinda like the Victorian one you mentioned above 🙂

It could be fun to manage factions and ultimately reform the country from a one party state to a multiparty democracy or the two party system.

I like this idea very much and I understand that no one here including would have the knowledge about Japanese history to build an AMPU-like game about it. However, I think even simulating elections and nominating people to offices alone would be fun. I find it interesting to see which MPs are returned to the Parliament and who's the longest in office and so on. If I had the time I'd add thousands of politicians for an election-only simulator without any legislative options.

[ConservativeElector2]

I like all the ideas, but I chose the ones I like the most. 

[Timur]

Modern British politics?

[vcczar]

2 hours ago, Timur said:

Modern British politics?

My knowledge of British politics is actually strongest between 1066 to World War I. 

[MrPotatoTed]

I like Geopolitics and the NFL, but the number one game I think is currently missing from the market (other than AMPU) is a television studio simulator.  Creating and casting shows, determining schedule lineups against competitors, deciding what shows to cancel and what to renew for additional seasons...there's a few games out there that claim to be some small piece of one or two of these things, but nobody covers the whole picture.  I see the request over and over again in various gaming groups.

[vcczar]

13 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said:

I like Geopolitics and the NFL, but the number one game I think is currently missing from the market (other than AMPU) is a television studio simulator.  Creating and casting shows, determining schedule lineups against competitors, deciding what shows to cancel and what to renew for additional seasons...there's a few games out there that claim to be some small piece of one or two of these things, but nobody covers the whole picture.  I see the request over and over again in various gaming groups.

Sounds interesting. I'm not much of a TV person, so it won't come from me. 

There are so many NFL games but none of them simulate the statistics very well. 

[Kitten]

4 hours ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

I like this idea very much and I understand that no one here including would have the knowledge about Japanese history to build an AMPU-like game about it. However, I think even simulating elections and nominating people to offices alone would be fun. I find it interesting to see which MPs are returned to the Parliament and who's the longest in office and so on. If I had the time I'd add thousands of politicians for an election-only simulator without any legislative options.

See I'd be willing to start researching tbh. I already know a fair bit of modern Japanese politics.

[vcczar]

1 hour ago, Kitten said:

See I'd be willing to start researching tbh. I already know a fair bit of modern Japanese politics.

Why don't you and @ConservativeElector2 make that game? Seems like you both want to do it. The hardest part is just working on it and being consistent with that work. @ConservativeElector2 has probably learned a lot about game-making by helping with AMPU.

[themiddlepolitical]

8 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Why don't you and @ConservativeElector2 make that game? Seems like you both want to do it. The hardest part is just working on it and being consistent with that work. @ConservativeElector2 has probably learned a lot about game-making by helping with AMPU.

This is what I like to see, when AMPU made it sets an incredible basis for other games of other countries, Just how the game is set up and all. It's like a brand new perfect forumla for political games

[vcczar]

Just now, themiddlepolitical said:

This is what I like to see, when AMPU made it sets an incredible basis for other games of other countries, Just how the game is set up and all. It's like a brand new perfect forumla for political games

Yeah, I'm not protective of my design at all. If it spawns copycat games I'm perfectly okay with that. I'm even okay with someone making a better version of AMPU. I made the game not for money or fame. I just wanted to play a game like this and it didn't exist. I waited. No one else made it. So I made it.

[themiddlepolitical]

Just now, vcczar said:

Yeah, I'm not protective of my design at all. If it spawns copycat games I'm perfectly okay with that. I'm even okay with someone making a better version of AMPU. I made the game not for money or fame. I just wanted to play a game like this and it didn't exist. I waited. No one else made it. So I made it.

Put that on a billboard!

Edited December 13, 2021 by themiddlepolitical

[vcczar]

2 minutes ago, themiddlepolitical said:

Put that on a billboard!

I'll just Tweet it.

[ConservativeElector2]

24 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Why don't you and @ConservativeElector2 make that game? Seems like you both want to do it. The hardest part is just working on it and being consistent with that work. @ConservativeElector2 has probably learned a lot about game-making by helping with AMPU.

Yes, I would love to do that, but one factor is time of course, the other being constantly motivated. My aim for international versions of AMPU would be an election-and-appointment-only-simulator with thousands of politicians per country to get massive office holder lists in history tabs. I love to study office holder lists (including lists of monarchs) on Wikipedia, so such a game would be insanely cool for me. While I also love to have some power to legislate or actually reign in some way, it's really the elections/appointments which I love the most.

I think the international priority should be clearly the UK, while 650 House of Commons and 700+ House of Lords members for years would be an enormous effort, probably only doable with an active modding community. 

My own priorities are Austria and South Korea. I started to prepare a spreadsheet with Austrian politicians tho. I hope to see them running for offices one day lol

[vcczar]

3 minutes ago, ConservativeElector2 said:

one factor is time of course, the other being constantly motivated. 

That was the hardest part for me.

I would get burned out continually during some parts of the process but I'd force motivation by seeing this as a "duty" for the greater good and the chance to have finally accomplished something. As a professor, I'm suppose to publish books. I have not done so, so a lack of accomplishments has always shadowed me. I sort of used that as a motivation to accomplish something. My lack of publications is mostly due to my varied interests, which change from month to month. I have tons of unfinished books. 

Time was the other factor for sure. I pretty much worked 7am to 10pm and then 7am to 7pm. Weekends 9am-7pm, but with a longer break in the middle -- teaching, prepping class, grading, working my 2nd job, and AMPU combined. Basically ruined my relationships to make the game because I'm just not present. I'm not great at departmentalizing. So I have to go all the way in if I want to get something done. Become more machine than man. 

[ConservativeElector2]

6 minutes ago, vcczar said:

I have tons of unfinished books. 

Unfortunately I have them as well. Currently I am telling myself to pick them up again when I have finished my master's theses. 

Yesterday I learned that my most favorite South Korean news anchor is publishing her first book. It's called "The Magic to Live 48 Hours a Day", and that's because she always seems to be working while at the same time everything she touches seems to become successful. I wish days had 48 hours, because I could accomplish so much more.

[Kitten]

59 minutes ago, vcczar said:

Why don't you and @ConservativeElector2 make that game? Seems like you both want to do it. The hardest part is just working on it and being consistent with that work. @ConservativeElector2 has probably learned a lot about game-making by helping with AMPU.

See I would certainly commit to making that game. Of course I'd have to look at the mechanics of AMPU first and then see what is possible and start planning out just how far back it would be wise to go in terms of Japanese history and then start brainstorming about things.

[vcczar]

3 minutes ago, Kitten said:

See I would certainly commit to making that game. Of course I'd have to look at the mechanics of AMPU first and then see what is possible and start planning out just how far back it would be wise to go in terms of Japanese history and then start brainstorming about things.

I think you'd want to start with Perry's expedition which took the country out of isolation. 

[Kitten]

3 minutes ago, vcczar said:

I think you'd want to start with Perry's expedition which took the country out of isolation. 

That would probably be a good starting point especially when it comes to Foreign relations. As for Domestic politics, the late Meji Era would be another good starting point.

Edited December 13, 2021 by Kitten