themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 In the mood because of AMPU!!! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1788: President Benjamin Franklin, Vice President Horatio Gates Franklin will not run for a second term his presidency gets a 91/100 score (simple thing I'll be using for buffs and debuffs for incumbents) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1792: President Horatio Gates, Vice President Aaron Burr Gates is all but handed down the presidency, He holds a strong and true demeanor like Washington did in OTL. Burr surprises and takes the VP spot. 1st term score: 85/100 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, themiddlepolitical said: 1792: President Horatio Gates, Vice President Aaron Burr Gates is all but handed down the presidency, He holds a strong and true demeanor like Washington did in OTL. Burr surprises and takes the VP spot. 1st term score: 85/100 It's strange but Burr gets a lot of support in the 1792 for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 1796: President Horatio Gates, Vice President John Jay- VP Aaron Burr finishes a dismal 6th, After him and Gates have feuds over his demeanor. Gates 2nd term score: 74/100 Though he will be 72, Gates will run for a third term! Edited January 1, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Timur said: It's strange but Burr gets a lot of support in the 1792 for some reason. I see that alot as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1800: President Horatio Gates (3rd term) Vice President John Jay (2nd Term) The former VP Burr and incumbent VP Jay have a showdown, Jay barely wins it. This would officially be gates final term he would announce. Gates 3rd term score: 73/100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 There will now be a party system, and VP's will be chosen by the nominee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 1804: John Jay/John Marshal (Fed) vs Aaron Burr/James Monroe (Rep) two former VP'S square off Incumbent VP John Jay wins!!! Federalist's have won every single election 5/5. Jay's first term score: 65/100 Edited January 1, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 1808: Pres. John Jay/John Quincy Adams vs Aaron Burr/James Monroe. A rematch, This time Jay dominates after Burr's string of controversies. Burr manages to win the nomination again after a close fight in the previous election, but with Jay being well respected even after a mediocre first term, and Burr having a string of controversies, Jay dominates. Jay 2nd term score: 68/100 John Jay will run for a third term. Edited January 1, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1812 Conventions: Federalists: John Jay faced no opposition, However the VP fight was intense, With Alexander Hamilton-The enemy of Aaron Burr coming out on top. Republicans: The Republican convention was hectic, hard fought and fiery. Former 2 time nominee Aaron Burr vyed for convention votes, with war with Great Britain on the horizon he tried to mention how he was the best one for the job- those on the first ballot notably to challenge him where his own 2 time former VP choice, James Monroe, and Vice President John Quincy Adams who changed his party from Federalist. With 10 people running, on the 6th round of balloting a new name was brought into discussion: 44 year old General Andrew Jackson. The final 3 on balloting Where Burr, Quincy Adams, and Jackson. Quincy Adams would endorse Jackson and the convention would end. He would choose a very notable politician as his VP. Rep. Henry Clay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 1812: Pres. John Jay/Alexander Hamilton vs Andrew Jackson/Henry Clay. Jackson has done it! The novice politician beats the President, in preparation of the war. Jackson pulls off an impressive victory with the help of his political leader VP, Clay. This is the first-ever non Federalist to win the presidency! Jackson 1st term score: 90/100 a war of 1812 victory! Edited January 1, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1816 Conventions Republicans: For Republicans the choice may not have been as easy as predicted. Though Jackson was the incumbent President, and just came off of a war victory many still saw him as unfit to serve as President, and not the right leader for the country. He had many challengers. Former VP nominee James Monroe, Former Federalist VP John Quincy Adams, NYC Mayor DeWitt Clinton, and 72 year old former Sec. of State Thomas Jefferson. However in the end Jackson still came out victorious choosing his same VP, Henry Clay though they very much butted heads. Federalists: After their two-term President losing John Jay, many wanted him to run again- especially since the previous election was so close. However current SCOTUS and former VP under Jay for one of his terms, John Marshall surprisingly threw his hat in the ring. Hartford convention leaders Otis and Pickering talked about throwing their hat in the ring, but where immediately shut down. On the first ballot, Jay withdrew and endorsed his former VP John Marshall. Marshall selected 35 year old Daniel Webster as his VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1816: Pres Andrew Jackson/Henry Clay vs John Marshall/Daniel Webster. An incumbent loses twice in a row, Jackson is a one term President! Marshall defeats President Jackson, Many believe it's because of Jacksons lack of northern appeal, and the respect voters have for Marshall and his leadership. Marshall first term score: 93/100-The highest score yet! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 1820 Conventions Federalists: President John Marshall takes the nomination with no opposition, His VP Webster chooses not to submit his name for VP balloting as he says he wants to go back to the Senate, Therefore Pres. Marshall would choose Sen. Rufus King as his VP. Republicans: Many called again on Fmr. Pres. Andrew Jackson to run for President, after his popular vote victor last election, however with Marshall naming Jackson as head general, he did not see a need to challenger Marshall as they where on good terms, so he withdrew from balloting. The next option was Jacksons former VP Henry Clay, Now a leader in the house yet again, however he would "wait it out" and not run. At this point it seemed no Republican wanted to challenge president Marshall.. However out comes Former VP and two time nominee Aaron Burr, scandal ridden, and basically exiled from the party- he submitted his name for balloting. This made Republicans scramble to fine someone to run against him as they feared demise of the party, They end up choosing hero of Tippecanoe and Gen./Rep. William Henry Harrison as their nominee. He would choose former VP John Q. Adams as his running mate. Edited January 1, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 1820: Pres. John Marshall/Rufus King vs Gen. William H. Harrison/John Q. Adams. Marshall wins! However Harrison comes surprisingly close, a future star? Marshall 2nd term score: 66/100 a far fall from his first term, the economy sinks however with his negotiating skills some packages are able to save the economy though it is still in recovery. Marshall will run for a third term saying it will be his final. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 1824 Conventions: Federalist: Marshall would win the nomination with no challenges, and his former VP Daniel Webster would come back again to join him on the tickent. Republican: A fractured, chaotic convention would lead to a party split for the general election. Many did not even see the point of challenging the incumbent President Marshall because of his massive amounts of popularity, however 3 decided to run. President of the US Bank Cheves, Last elections nominee Gen./Rep. Harrison, and powerful NY Sen. Van Buren. They would choose various VP's. Many begged Clay to run, but many suspected that he is saving until the 1828 election. Many suspected that 3 Republicans running would hand Marshall the election... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 1824 Election: Pres Marshall vs Gen./Rep. Harrison vs USBank Pres. Cheves vs NY Sen. Van Buren- Marshall wins with ease, Harrison win's no EV's despite his PV %. Marshalls VP remains Rufus King Pres. Marshall 3rd and final term score: 89/100. A strong finish! The economy makes a massive rebound By the end of his term massive party switching would occur, and Federalists would now be known as National Republican's, and Republicans as Democrats. Edited January 8, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fbarbarossa Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 What I find interesting about this is that a three term tradition, rather than a two term one, has developed 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 1828 Conventions With the Federalists dissolved we now have 2 new parties, Democrats and National Republicans Democrats: The convention saw two major figures brought up, Former one term President Andrew Jackson, and Senator and Architect of the Democratic Party Martin Van Buren. With only two men seriously vying for the nomination, Van Buren agreed (though he had some dislike for Jackson) that it would be best to unify north and south to take back the presidency. National Republicans: As you walked into the convention room, it was known who was going to be chosen- With a banner reading "unity". At the start many though VP and former Federalist Daniel Webster would take the nomination, but even he knew who was going to be selected. It was Sprk. and former VP Henry Clay's time. Clay would select William H. Harrison as his VP. Clay is Andrew Jackson's former VP, it was now a a former VP versing his former President, the ultimate conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post themiddlepolitical Posted January 3, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 1828: Spkr./Fmr. VP Henry Clay/William H. Harrison vs Fmr. Pres Andrew Jackson/Martin Van Buren. Clay wins! The former President loses ANOTHER close race! Remember Clay was Jackson's Vice-President Clay's first term score: 77/100 A very solid first term score for Clay, Clay will run for re-election. Edited January 3, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 1832 Conventions National Republicans: Clay sures up support nearly instantly, though he faced some challenge from former one time VP under John Marshall, Daniel Webster. He chooses William H. Harrison as his VP yet again. Democrats: Shockingly, Fmr. Pres. Jackson's VP choice for last election, NY Sen. Martin Van Buren, faced zero opposition for the nomination, he selected PA Sen. William Wilkins as his VP, who also faced no oppostion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 1832: Pres. Henry Clay/ VP William H. Harrison vs Sen. Martin Van Buren/Sen. William Wilkins- A strong re election result, even with third parties present! Clay's 2nd term score: 44/100- A disaster of a second term for Clay- after many mishandlings and controversies. As well as the National Republicans resolving to form a fractured Whig Party. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 1836 conventions Whigs: The whig convention would be chaotic, With Clay's overall approval of his party being decimated after his nearly failed 2nd term, However many knew that if he ran again he would still have strong support, and would have a strong chance of winning. Daniel Webster would be the only one to directly challenge him- However after he lost after the first ballot, Former 1 term VP under John Marshall, Daniel Webster and his allies would break off and he would run as "The Northern Whigs" party. Clay would yet again, for a third time choose William Henry Harrison as his VP nom. "Nullify Whigs" would be another broken off, yet small faction. Democrats: Democrats would have no contention and Sen. Martin Van Buren would yet again be the nominee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 1836: Pres Clay/VP Harrison Vs Sen Van Buren/Rep Mentor Johnson vs Sen. Webster/Rep. Granger vs Rep Mangum/Sen John Tyler Clay does it! He has an incredible bounce back in his third term! Clay third term score: 88/100 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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