themiddlepolitical Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 1840 Conventions Whigs: Pres. Clay would break with tradition, He would decide to run for a 4th term even with party leaders urging him not to. His VP William Henry Harrison would decide not to pursue the VP spot again because of this (He would instead be promised a cabinet post). Sen. and Fmr. VP Daniel Webster would have his name submitted for balloting after challenging Clay as a third party last election, Gen. Winfield Scott would also be on the ballot. Clay at first was positive he would have enough delegates to win after the first round, But he was shocked to learn the balloting after the first round was 45%(Clay)-30%(Webster)-15%(Scott) with the rest being favorite sons. Clay was of course nervous being the first "campaigner" for the nomination of Presidents, breaking with tradition. In the end Clay would win, he would make a compromise and select Northern Whig NY Gov. William Seward as his VP. Clay surprises many when he chooses an abolitionist VP (Cass believes it is a necessary evil) Democrats: The first to have his name submitted for balloting would be TN Gov. James K Polk a straightforward, and tough talking governor who was considered to be a party boss of the south. Next would be expansionist and MI Sen. Lewis Cass, Finally would be the controversial nullifier and SC Sen. John C Calhoun. Shockingly there would be a completely broken convention the first ballot would read 50% (undecided)- 21% (Polk)- 20% (Calhoun)- and 9% (Cass). Calhoun would give a thundering speech on the convention floor, Stating how the true south needs to be in the presidency, stating how he supported Fmr. Pres. Jackson, who was asked to have his name submitted but withdrew immediately. There was talk of having another candidate throw their name in the race as a compromise, but those talks failed. Polk would withdraw his name from balloting, but would endorse no one as both Cass and Calhoun promised him a VP Spot. After some rounds, the delegate tally would read 33% (Calhoun)-30% (Cass) and the rest remained undecided. Former two time nominee and VP nominee to Jackson, Sen. Van Buren would take the floor- Stating how "This is a signature on the direction of our party" and would attack Calhoun stating he is "a Danger to the direction of our nation". Van Buren would endorse Cass, Which in the end moved enough Delegates to Cass. The ticket would be Cass/Polk. The abolitionist Liberty Party planned on fielding a candidate until Clay chose Seward. Many believe the selection of Seward will cause a "hardline electoral shift between north and south" Edited January 17, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 1840: Pres. Clay/Gov Seward vs Sen Cass/Gov Polk - It is clear that Clay selecting Seward saved him, delivering him NY. A nail bitter of an election Clay's 4th term score: 12/100-The worst single term for a president in history. A complete disaster of a presidency, the economy collapses and riots occur across the nation. Clay is threatened with impeachment but isn't impeached. Democrats completely sweep midterms. William Seward resigns as VP mid-term stating Clay's incompetency. However the question remains, will Clay run again? Edited January 17, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 1844 Conventions Whigs: Many expected Pres Clay to run again, For a unprecedented 5th term. However party bosses convinced him that it would be "The disaster of the Whigs and Republicanism" and he was also promised his seat back in Congress, which he wanted- Therefor the president withdrew is name from balloting! This left a power vacuum. Former VP (In 1808 to John Jay) and 77 year old John Q Adams would be the first to have his name submitted for balloting, 2nd was longtime Clay rival and Fmr. VP Daniel Webster, third and final was Gen Winfield Scott. Many wondered why more didn't submit, Especially Fmr. VP who resigned, Party leader William Seward- He knew that this election would be a "sacrificial lamb" election of sorts for Whigs. After some balloting the rankings where 39% (Webster)- 35% (JQA)- 12% (Scott) and the rest where undecided. Surprisingly Webster would withdraw and endorsed John Quincy Adams who would become the nominee. This is believed because Seward told him what his prospects where. JQA would select Gen. Winfield Scott as his VP. Democrats: Leading Democrats knew this election was their "Chance" with newspapers reporting terrible approval for Clay and the Whigs, they knew it would be a great chance of victory. Gov and last election's VP nominee James K. Polk, Last election's nominee and MI Sen. Cass, and SC Sen and leading RW politician John C. Calhoun would all have their names submitted instantly, and after rounds of balloting their would be deadlock, with an incredible amount of undecided. 17% (Polk)-15% (Cass)- 12% (Calhoun) with the rest undecided. In come's in.. Fmr. 2 time nominee, Party leader, and Sen. Martin Van Buren would have his name submitted. It would be down to Van Buren vs Calhoun, In the end- Though the two where near enemies, and had completely different views on slavery, Van Buren would win and select Sen John C Calhoun as his VP Since Calhoun was selected the abolitionist Liberty Party would run, though they admitted if Calhoun wasn't selected they wouldn't have ran. Edited January 19, 2022 by themiddlepolitical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) 1844 Sen. Van Buren/Sen Calhoun vs Fmr. VP JQA/Gen Scott vs Rep Birney The Democrats win their first ever presidential election! Whig domination ends! Van Buren 1st term score: 45/100 A below average first term, Calhoun and Van Buren constantly butt heads during his term, as they are torn on the issue of the expansion of slavery, which would lead to Van Buren "kicking out" Calhoun as his VP, which leads to Calhoun resigning as VP the 2nd VP in a row to resign. Democrats wouldn't lose a majority in the midterms (Because of their vast lead from the fall of the Whigs) Van Buren would announce he was running for a 2nd term, though he was seen as a poor leader. Edited January 19, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1848 conventions: Whigs: The Whigs where ready to take back the presidency. Though Van Buren's first term wasn't necessarily a disaster, Whigs came roaring back in the midterms and won majorities. War with Mexico was on the horizon, so just as Jackson won because of the war of 1812- Whigs where looking for the same strategy, draft a General to win the presidency. The immediate two options where Generals Zachary Taylor and Winfield Scott, Though almost immediately people didn't like many of Taylor's stances therefore he never submitted his name for balloting. The First round of balloting would end in the following Gen Winfield Scott (29% del), Gov/Fmr. VP William Seward (28% del), Fmr. VP Daniel Webster (12% del), SCOTUS John McLean (7% del), and Fmr. Pres. Henry Clay (5% del) (not actively pursuing). Seward would give a strong convention floor speech at the start of the 2nd round of balloting stating the need to "turn the tides" for the Whig Party, and how The United States was headed towards "unforbidden dangerous, divisive territory" specifically stating one of the Democratic Party leaders, Sen. and Fmr VP Calhoun. The only complete abolitionist was Daniel Webster, with the rest falling around the center on the issue. Many feared if Webster won, southern states would split off of the union soon after. Though Clay was not involved up to this point, he would shockingly direct his delegates to endorse SCOTUS John Mclean. The would be more rounds of negotiation, On the 5th ballot the total would be Gov/Fmr VP. William Seward (33%), Gen Winfield Scott (30%), SCOTUS John Mclean (21%) Fmr. VP Daniel Webster (16%). The convention would remain deadlocked, As McLean wanted to other position except the Presidential nomination, since he was already SCOTUS. Webster and Seward would begin strong negotiations, With Seward moving his State's rights stance from CR to CL, Webster would endorse Seward, but he would still not have enough delegates. Seward (49%), Scott (30%), McLean (21%). Seward would promise Scott Sec. of State, Seward wins the nomination! A fierce battle would continue into the VP convention, With Gen. Zachary Taylor and Rep. Abraham Lincoln being the last two and squaring off. Seward in the end would endorse the young Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln would become the VP nominee. William Seward/Abraham Lincoln is the ticket. Democrats: Betrayal, Backstabbing, and a broken party. Pres. Martin Van Buren would go into the convention thinking he had the nomination without an issue, However without warning all delegates from states below the Mason-Dixon line would announce their endorsement of Van Buren's Former VP and current Senator John C Calhoun. This would rock the convention. Van Buren then instantly realized, he had lost the nomination- It was impossible for him to win. Northern Democrats where angered, and appalled. This would be known as "the dark day" as Northern Democrats would storm off the floor into a convention hall across the street in Richmond, Virginia. Now without a care for appeasing the Southerners Martin Van Buren would start to garner a party platform to be announced the week later. John C Calhoun would take the nomination and select last elections VP nominee James K Polk as his VP. The ticket would be Calhoun/Polk Free Soil: After Pres. Van Buren and Northern Democrats storming out of the convention halls, Van Buren would announce in his speech his plan to abolish slavery, asked why he didn't say this while running before he said he no longer had to please southerners. Van Buren would select Charles Francis Adams (son of founding father John Adams) as his VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1848 Election Gov Seward/Rep Lincoln vs Sen Calhoun/Fmr. Gov Polk vs Pres Van Buren/Mr. Adams-Seward takes it! The former VP to Clay who resigned. Seward first term score-83/100 Mexican war victory, great domestically and abroad. Seward will run for re election! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, themiddlepolitical said: 1848 Election Gov Seward/Rep Lincoln vs Sen Calhoun/Fmr. Gov Polk vs Pres Van Buren/Mr. Adams-Seward takes it! The former VP to Clay who resigned. Seward first term score-83/100 Mexican war victory, great domestically and abroad. Seward will run for re election! Perhaps the third time will be the charm for Calhoun... as it was not so long ago... 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 To keep count Democrats have ruled the presidency for 8 total years Whigs..24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 1852 Conventions Whigs: Probably the least controversial convention in decades, The Whigs select Pres. William Seward and VP Abraham Lincoln both for re-nomination without objection. Democrats: Sen Calhoun was expected to seek the nomination again, However illness prevented him from seeking it this time around, even though he was not in anyway guaranteed it, many within his own party shunned him. In stark comparison to the last convention, Democrats pledged to select a conservative who was not too divisive. This led 4 people to run. Fmr nominee and MI Sen. Lewis Cass, NY Gov. William L. Marcy, IL Sen. 39 year old Stephen Douglas, and TX Sen. and Fmr TX Republic President Sam Houston. All of this nominees held some mix of center right and conservative views (but no RW views). The first ballot results where as follows Cass (39% del), Houston (15%), Douglas (12%), Marcy (7%) with a huge amount of undecideds. Cass had a strong first ballot, many pointing out his very strong 1840 performance against then incumbent President Clay. Cass also was a major expansionist and has led many acquisitions. Houston's argument was his former presidential leadership, being the only southerner in the race, many where worried that his regional appeal was too small, as Democrats wanted to take back the north. Douglas is the "new star" in the party, with many not knowing who he was initially. He gave a strong convention speech at the end of the first ballot saying "new generations of leadership will prevail against the Whig agenda". Democrats immediately rushed to support Douglas, and after 5 ballots it was only down to Douglas and Cass, as Douglas offered cabinet positions to Houston and Marcy. Finally, he would offer Cass the Secretary of State job and VP spot (a first). The Democrat ticket is IL Sen. Stephen Douglas/ MI Sen. Lewis Cass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 852: Pres. William Seward/ VP Abraham Lincoln vs Sen Stephen Douglas/ Sen Lewis Cass. The popular president wins!!! Seward 2nd term score: 67/100. Much better than IRL Pierce, he may keep the country together...But he most likely will not. Seward will run for a third term! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 The Whigs will change to the Republicans after a push from Seward, calling it " a new era " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 1856 Conventions Republicans: Pres. William Seward was of course the presumed nominee, However abolitionist Senator Charles Sumner submitted his name as a protest candidate. Saying Seward and his admin has turned a blind eye on the atrocities. Sumner would shockingly gain 31% of delegates, with the President winning and holding the rest. Something this did show though, was the want within the party to ban slavery, which put Southern Democrats on "red alert". Pres William Seward/VP Abraham Lincoln is the ticket. Sumner would announce he was running as the Liberty Party in an effort to abolish slavery. Democrats: Democrats where at a crisis point, do they sway more towards the south again like they did with Calhoun? Or try to gain strength in the north, since they had the south locked up anyways? It was clearly going to be a battle between the 3 wings. The northern wing of NY Sen. William L. Marcy, The moderate midwestern wing of Former nominee and IL Sen Stephen Douglas, and the deep south, hardline conservative wing of MS Sen. Jefferson Davis. It was clear after the first ballot where the Democratic Party was "heading". After the first ballot it was Davis (45%), Douglas (43%), and Marcy (12%). It would be the fourth ballot, and Marcy would withdraw to endorse Douglas- However his delegates were faithless, and they would garner enough of them to give Jefferson Davis the majority. There was a battle, yet it was short on the VP ballot. Davis's handpicked Rep. Breckenridge would take the VP spot. The southern Dems won this battle big time. The ticket would be MS Sen. Jefferson Davis/KY Rep. John C. Breckenridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 1856: Pres. William Seward/VP Abraham Lincoln vs Sen. Jefferson Davis/Rep John C. Breckenridge vs Charles Sumner - Big win for anti slavery movement. William Seward 3rd term score: 96/100 -The best term ever for a President, he prevents an early civil war. However he does even better. It is now expected ONLY the Deep south to rebel' because of his leadership ability (LA,MS,AL,GA,SC). The economy also gets a boom. He will run for a 4th term! Edited February 5, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 hours ago, themiddlepolitical said: 1856: Pres. William Seward/VP Abraham Lincoln vs Sen. Jefferson Davis/Rep John C. Breckenridge vs Charles Sumner - Big win for anti slavery movement. William Seward 3rd term score: 96/100 -The best term ever for a President, he prevents an early civil war. However he does even better. It is now expected ONLY the Deep south to rebel' because of his leadership ability (LA,MS,AL,GA,SC). The economy also gets a boom. He will run for a 4th term! Based aedward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenobiyl Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 18 hours ago, themiddlepolitical said: 1856: Pres. William Seward/VP Abraham Lincoln vs Sen. Jefferson Davis/Rep John C. Breckenridge vs Charles Sumner - Big win for anti slavery movement. William Seward 3rd term score: 96/100 -The best term ever for a President, he prevents an early civil war. However he does even better. It is now expected ONLY the Deep south to rebel' because of his leadership ability (LA,MS,AL,GA,SC). The economy also gets a boom. He will run for a 4th term! Better even than Lincoln Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zenobiyl said: Better even than Lincoln More of a combination of Pierce and Buchanan never being president and doing everything in the worst way possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 1860 Conventions Republican: Even though the country was at the brink of succession, Pres Seward and VP Lincoln would both be renominated without challenge. Democrats: The Democratic Party was in scrambles, being the party of the South, There was complete and total chaos of what the party should do. A group of Northern Democrats led by former president and party boss Martin Van Buren- would state that the nominee would be a northern candidate. With this, Southern Democrats marched out the room and pledged to nominate their own candidate. The candidates for the Democrats would be as follows: Fmr. nominee and IL Sen. Stephen Douglas, NY Sen. Horatio Seymour, and fmr. nominee and MI Sen Lewis Cass. The first ballot results would be as follows Douglas (40%), Cass (40%), Seymour (15%). The centrist on the slavery issue was Seymour, with the others being center-right. However, Seymour would make his case- and propose a united front behind him. On the 4th ballot there would be some shifting. Douglas (31%), Seymour (26%), and Cass (23%) with now a very large amount undecided. Seymour's case was mainly that he would give the Democrats the best shot at the all important state of New York. Douglas agreed with this case, and would withdraw and endorse him and become his running mate. However Douglas would make it clear that this was just a "bridge" and that he would not rule out challenging Seymour next election if they won. The Democrat ticket would be NY Sen. Horatio Seymour/IL Sen Stephen Douglas Southern Democrats: The pro slavery, Pro states rights southern Democrats would select last elections VP nominee John C. Breckenridge. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, themiddlepolitical said: 1860 Conventions Republican: Even though the country was at the brink of succession, Pres Seward and VP Lincoln would both be renominated without challenge. Democrats: The Democratic Party was in scrambles, being the party of the South, There was complete and total chaos of what the party should do. A group of Northern Democrats led by former president and party boss Martin Van Buren- would state that the nominee would be a northern candidate. With this, Southern Democrats marched out the room and pledged to nominate their own candidate. The candidates for the Democrats would be as follows: Fmr. nominee and IL Sen. Stephen Douglas, NY Sen. Horatio Seymour, and fmr. nominee and MI Sen Lewis Cass. The first ballot results would be as follows Douglas (40%), Cass (40%), Seymour (15%). The centrist on the slavery issue was Seymour, with the others being center-right. However, Seymour would make his case- and propose a united front behind him. On the 4th ballot there would be some shifting. Douglas (31%), Seymour (26%), and Cass (23%) with now a very large amount undecided. Seymour's case was mainly that he would give the Democrats the best shot at the all important state of New York. Douglas agreed with this case, and would withdraw and endorse him and become his running mate. However Douglas would make it clear that this was just a "bridge" and that he would not rule out challenging Seymour next election if they won. The Democrat ticket would be NY Sen. Horatio Seymour/IL Sen Stephen Douglas Southern Democrats: The pro slavery, Pro states rights southern Democrats would select last elections VP nominee John C. Breckenridge. GIVE EM HELL BRECKENRIDGE. DO IT FOR JOHNNY CALHOUN YEEEEHAWWWWW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Pringles said: GIVE EM HELL BRECKENRIDGE. DO IT FOR JOHNNY CALHOUN YEEEEHAWWWWW I didn't know Patine was a supporter of the Southern Democrats. :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Timur said: I didn't know Patine was a supporter of the Southern Democrats. 😛 That's Pringles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: That's Pringles. I know. It was joke about his avatar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 1860 Election: Pres. William Seward/VP Abraham Lincoln vs Sen Horatio Seymour/Sen Stephen Douglas vs Sen John C Breckenridge/Sen. Joseph Lane COMING IN THIRD PLACE in popular vote- Seward wins the election!-In one of the most dividing times in history, this is not a good look. Seward 4th term score: 20/100- after having one of the best terms of any President ever, Seward has one of the worst. (Terrible luck on the roll) It was initially believed that only the deep south would rebel, and it was on track to be that way- However after a passing of an anti slavery law targeting border states, that flipped. The South rebels as it did in real life. Many believe this reason was indeed the fact of the election results- John C Breckenridge would become president of the CSA. The union is struggling in the war currently- as Seward has failed to truly make the war about slavery, instead the CSA has been able to keep the message- and made it about states rights. After threatening in embargo of cotton on Europe, European countries begin putting crippling economic sanctions on the north. The Union's economy is struggling immensely. His final term ends like the man he was VP to disaster-Henry Clay. Seward will decide at the convention if he will run or not Edited March 11, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 1864 Conventions: Republicans: At the beginning of the convention the question was brought forth- Would President Seward run again. It being wartime, the President was assured support to get a slight majority- But Pres Seward would decide not to run for a 5th term. Seward would instead endorse his VP Abraham Lincoln for the nomination, however he would not go unchallenged. The General that many say is the only reason the Union is holding up in the war, Gen. Ulysses Grant would announce his run. The only other candidate to announce their run for election was PA Sen. Simon Cameron a respected Senator and compromise candidate. Convention rules would change, a candidate would now need atleast 60% of the convention delegates to take the nomination. On the first ballot the results would be as follows Lincoln (28%)-Grant (23%)-Cameron (19%) with a vast amount undecided. The fact was, this did not look good at all for Lincoln- He would give a speech and his great orator ability would begin to work, however Gen. Grant stole the show. In his speech titled "A tide that needs to turn" He would talk about his experince on the current battleifield and the failures of the current adminstration, there would be thunderous applause after his speech- and on the 7th ballot with all delegates decided the final result would be Grant (73%)-Lincoln (20%)-Cameron (7%). The ticket would officially be Gen. Ulysses S. Grant/ PA Sen. Simon Cameron Democrats: The convention was short after his strong performance, and popular vote victory last election- NY Sen. Horatio Seymour would be selected as the nominee. The ticket would officially be NY Sen. Horatio Seymour/ Rep. George H. Pendleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) 1864: Sen. Horatio Seymour/ Rep. George H. Pendleton vs Gen. Ulysses S. Grant/ PA Sen. Simon Cameron- In the first time in two decades, Democrats win! Seymours 1st term score: 97/100-The best term for any president ever! Seymour wins the civil war after promoting his opponent Grant to not only serve as head general, but also Secretary of State- uniting the country. Europe withdraws sanctions after Seymour (though he is not a hardcore abolitionist) is able to make the civil war about slavery-then signs the 13th amendment banning slavery. In the party that not too long ago was full on states rights and right wing- Seymour has turned the tide, in favor of Former President Martin Van Buren (his mentor) type Democrats. Seymour would start a "soft" reconstruction of the South, stating how he did not want to reignite any new flames. Seymour will run for a 2nd term! Edited March 12, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themiddlepolitical Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) Our Presidents so far! 1788-1864 1: Benjamin Franklin (I) (1 term) term scores- 91 VP: Horatio Gates 2: Horatio Gates (I) (2 terms) TS: 85-74-73 VP: Aaron Burr-John Jay 3: John Jay (FED) (2 terms) (Lost as incumbent) TS: 65-68 VP: John Marshall-John Quincy Adams 4: Andrew Jackson (REP/DEM) (1 term) (Lost as incumbent) TS: 90 VP: Henry Clay 5: John Marshall (FED) (3 terms) TS: 93-66-89 VP: Daniel Webster-Rufus King-William Henry Harrison 6: Henry Clay (N. REP/WHIG) (4 terms) TS: 77-44-88-12 VP: William Henry Harrison-William Seward 7: Martin Van Buren (DEM/FS) (1 term) TS: 45 VP: John C Calhoun 8: William Seward (WHIG/REP) (4 terms) TS: 83-67-96-20 VP: Abraham Lincoln 9. Horatio Seymour (DEM) (1 term-current) TS (so far) 97 VP: George H. Pendleton (So far) Edited March 11, 2022 by themiddlepolitical 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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