OrangeP47 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I was expecting this to be a good year for the Whigs, but in retrospect, the map was friendlier to the Dems. A lot of dem defenses were states they were very good in, so unlikely to lose. Maybe the house will be a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 1906 House Elections Whigs only make marginal gains in the House, which leaves Democrats with the majority of 222-197 (down from 231-188). With Dems holding onto the majority of governorships, could Pres Pattison see a Dem trifecta? Edited April 16 by Ich_bin_Tyler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1906 is Class 2, so it'll be an interesting one up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I am curious to know if this is the first midterm where a President has gained a chamber (if they gain the Senate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Free Trade Democrats Senate appointments 1906- FL- No Class II seats. But, appoint Rep. William B Lamar of SK faction to the Class I Senate seat being vacating by a retiring Senator. Appoint Charles W Jones of pman faction to the Rep seat. MD- No Class II seats. MO- No Class II seats. MT- Reappoint Charles A Thurston of Matt faction to the Class II seat. PA- No Class II seats. RI- Reappoint Oscar Lapham of Matt faction to the Class II seat. WA- No Class II seats. WY- Replace Whig Joseph M Carey with Democrat John Eugene Osborne of pman faction. Net gain +1 for Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, Arkansas Progressive said: I am curious to know if this is the first midterm where a President has gained a chamber (if they gain the Senate) Yates gained the Senate in 1902 so this would be only the second time this playtest if Pattison gains the Senate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: Free Trade Democrats Senate appointments 1906- No gains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1906 Whig Senate Appointments DE: Replace Harry A Richardson with Coleman Du Pont. DU: Replace Pedro Ruiz with Simor Torre. IA: Replace William D Boies with Jonathan Dolliver. ID: Retain Edgar Wilson. Gains Legis+1, Admin+1, Unlikable LA: Replace Murphy Foster with P B S Pinchback (Whig gain). Also the first black Governor and Senator for LA. Gains Legis+1, Admin +1 MA: Retain Rockwood Hoar. Gains Legis +1, Controversial ME: Appoint Charles A Boutelle. Gains Legis+1 MI: Appoint Roswell Horr. Gains Legis+1 MN: Replace Rich T Buckler with Darwin Hall (Whig gain). NH: Replace Cyrus Sulloway with Henry B Quinby. NM: Replace William J Mills with George Curry (Whig gain). WV: Retain Alston G Dayton. Gain of +3 for Whigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1906 Whig Senate Replacements for Retirement CT Class I: Appoint Hobart Baldwin Bigelow UC Class I: William H Waste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1906 Dem Senate Appointments AL: Replace Thomas Kilby with Rep Milford W Howard. Replace Howard with Joseph F Johnston (@matthewyoung123) Gains Legis+1 AR: Appoint William M Fishback Gains Legis +1 CO: Replace Tyre York with Fred N Cummings. Gains Legis+1, Admin+1 GA: Replace James Soule Pope with Joseph Rucker Lamar. IL: Replace John B Hawley with Rep Lawrence McGann. Replace McGann with William Dieterich. (Dem Flip) KS: Replace John St. John with Rep John G Otis. (Dem Flip) Replace Otis with Thomas Jefferson Hudson. Gains Admin+1 KY: Replace George M Davison with Rep John Y Brown. (Dem Flip) Replace Brown with Augustus O Stanley. Gains Admin+1 LC: Replace Samuel Shortridge with Rep Charles Hiram Randall . (Dem Flip) Replace Randall with James Budd. Gains Legis +1 MS: Retain Frank A McLain. Gains Iron Fist NE: Retain William A McKeighan. Gains Legis+1 NJ: Appoint James Edgar Martine (Dem Flip) Gains Legis+1 OK: Replace Dick T Morgan with Thomas Gore. (Dem Flip) OR: Appoint Walter M Pierce. Gains Legis+1 SC: Replace George D Tillman with John Irby. Gains Legis+1, Admin+1 SD: Replace Carl Gunderson with Rep Freeman Knowles. (Dem Flip) Replace Knowles with Tom Berry. Gains Legis+1, Admin+1 TN: Retain John A Moon Gains Unlikable, Controversial, Iron Fist TX: Retain Jim Hogg VA: Retain Andrew Jackson Montague Gains Legis +1 Net Dem +7. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 And now the Democrats have a majority in both Houses and the Presidency. Nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1906 Senate Appointments With their gubernatorial gains, Democrats narrowly retake the Senate 52-48. Most of their gains come from taking back the western states and making in roads into the Mid-Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 End of Half-Term Retirements Defeated Reps IL-1 Jehu Baker IL-4 Joseph V Graff IN-3 Albert Vestal LA-1 Louis Wiltz LC-2 John D Works MN-1 Kittel Halvorson MN-2 John Albert Johnson ND-1 George M Young NE-1 William L Greene PA-2 George Shiras III VA-1 John W Daniel Defeated Govs NE Elmer Burkett OK Charles N Haskell And all of the other oldies who don't stay around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 End of Half-Term Points Democrats have the highest and lowest scoring faction and undergo the penalty. Democrats +22,145 -> 18,976 Traditionalist Democrats +4,420 -> 3,978 Justice Democrats +1,250 Free Trade Democrats +7,200 -> 5,400 Moderate Democrats +4,275 -> 3,848 Tariff Democrats +5,000 -> 4,500 Whigs +22,650 Tariff Whigs +1,850 Wall Street Whigs +6,400 Moderate Whigs +4,800 Liberal Whigs +5,150 Progressive Whigs +4,450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 oof climbing almost to the Whigs, but loses anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Welcome to 1906-1908 Removal of Flip Flopper Clifton R Breckinridge Carter Harrison Jr William Ellery Sweet Charles A Barlow Relocations and Ideology Shifts Justice Democrats Ideology Shifts John Rawlins from Cons to Mod 18/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper Wyatt Aiken from Cons to Mod 15/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper, Pliable Nathan L Bachman from Cons to Mod 22/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper, Pliable Moderate Democrats Relocation Henry H Schwartz from SD to WY Tariff Democrats Relocation Thomas David Nicholls from PA to SD Tariff Whigs Relocation Richard Alsop Wise from VA to IL Wall Street Whigs Relocation Stephen B Elkins from NM to WV Ideology Shifts Rockwood Hoar from Mod to Cons 61/10 fails. Gains Flip-Flopper Charles R Miller from Mod to Cons 37/50 success. Felix Hebert from Mod to Cons 10/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper @matthewyoung123 you're up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/19/2024 at 2:02 PM, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Welcome to 1906-1908 Removal of Flip Flopper Clifton R Breckinridge Carter Harrison Jr William Ellery Sweet Charles A Barlow Relocations and Ideology Shifts Justice Democrats Ideology Shifts John Rawlins from Cons to Mod 18/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper Wyatt Aiken from Cons to Mod 15/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper, Pliable Nathan L Bachman from Cons to Mod 22/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper, Pliable Moderate Democrats Relocation Henry H Schwartz from SD to WY Tariff Democrats Relocation Thomas David Nicholls from PA to SD Tariff Whigs Relocation Richard Alsop Wise from VA to IL Wall Street Whigs Relocation Stephen B Elkins from NM to WV Ideology Shifts Rockwood Hoar from Mod to Cons 61/10 fails. Gains Flip-Flopper Charles R Miller from Mod to Cons 37/50 success. Felix Hebert from Mod to Cons 10/50 success. Gains Flip-Flopper @matthewyoung123 you're up! Shifts; Thomas Chipman McRae, AR Cons->Trad Nathan P Bryan, FL Cons->Trad Carter Harrison Jr, IL Cons->Mod (faction leader ideology) Elmer Thomas, OH Mod->Cons Edward I Edwards, WA Mod->Cons Moves; Chauncey Depew from NY->VT alt state Carl Schurz from MO->NY alt state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) 19 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: Shifts; Thomas Chipman McRae, AR Cons->Trad 56/10, fails. Gains Pliable. Nathan P Bryan, FL Cons->Trad 65/50, fails. Gains Flip-Flopper. Carter Harrison Jr, IL Cons->Mod (faction leader ideology) 69/75, succeeds. Gains Pliable. Elmer Thomas, OH Mod->Cons 37/50, succeeds. Gains Flip-Flopper, Pliable. Edward I Edwards, WA Mod->Cons 88/50, fails. Moves; Chauncey Depew from NY->VT alt state Success Carl Schurz from MO->NY alt state Success Results in bold. I have updated them. Also correction to flip-flopper not two faced. Edited April 22 by Ich_bin_Tyler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Politician Conversions Disgruntled Ideologies Prog Dems and Mod Whigs can flip. There are no Prog Dems to flip. Mod Whigs flipping: Jud Track Charles A Goss from Wall Street Whigs to Free Trade Democrats Marvin B Rosenberry from Moderate Whigs to Free Trade Democrats Henry C Warmoth from Liberal Whigs to Free Trade Democrats Party Leader Conversions Must be marked for party flipping. Cannot target Free Trade Democrats, Moderate Democrats, or Progressive Whigs Mark Hanna target 1 at 33% Targets Justice Walter Q Gresham. Rolls 33, so succeeds. And the Supreme Court flips. Robert E Pattison target 1 at 10% @matthewyoung123 who do you target? Faction Leader Conversions Cannot target Free Trade Democrats, Moderate Democrats, or Progressive Whigs. Must be marked pliable and have same or adjacent ideology. Will process after Party Leaders. Andrew Mellon target 2 at 33% Hiram Johnson target 1 at 33% Thomas J Walsh target 1 at 10% Charles F Adams III target 1 at 10% Theodore Roosevelt target 2 at 48% or 58% if Lib James H Berry target 1 at 43% Mark Hanna target 1 at 38% or 48% if Mod Robert E Pattison target 2 at 10% or 20% if Mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Politician Conversions Disgruntled Ideologies Prog Dems and Mod Whigs can flip. There are no Prog Dems to flip. Mod Whigs flipping: Jud Track Charles A Goss from Wall Street Whigs to Free Trade Democrats Marvin B Rosenberry from Moderate Whigs to Free Trade Democrats Henry C Warmoth from Liberal Whigs to Free Trade Democrats Party Leader Conversions Must be marked for party flipping. Cannot target Free Trade Democrats, Moderate Democrats, or Progressive Whigs Mark Hanna target 1 at 33% Targets Justice Walter Q Gresham. Rolls 33, so succeeds. And the Supreme Court flips. Robert E Pattison target 1 at 10% @matthewyoung123 who do you target? Faction Leader Conversions Cannot target Free Trade Democrats, Moderate Democrats, or Progressive Whigs. Must be marked pliable and have same or adjacent ideology. Will process after Party Leaders. Andrew Mellon target 2 at 33% Hiram Johnson target 1 at 33% Thomas J Walsh target 1 at 10% Charles F Adams III target 1 at 10% Theodore Roosevelt target 2 at 48% or 58% if Lib James H Berry target 1 at 43% Mark Hanna target 1 at 38% or 48% if Mod Robert E Pattison target 2 at 10% or 20% if Mod Will target Winston Churchill for party conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, matthewyoung123 said: Will target Winston Churchill for party conversion. Rolled 4, so you've got him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Rolled 4, so you've got him! I cannot express to you how happy this makes me! LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 1 minute ago, matthewyoung123 said: I cannot express to you how happy this makes me! LOL. I can finally make you happy with a die roll haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 (edited) Politician Conversions Part 2 Faction Leader Conversions Cannot target Free Trade Democrats, Moderate Democrats, or Progressive Whigs. Must be marked pliable and have same or adjacent ideology. Andrew Mellon target 2 at 33% Jud Track Charles Evans Hughes and Frank H Hitchcock. Rolls 27 and 46, so Hughes switches. Hiram Johnson target 1 at 33% John Quincy Adams II and rolls 98 so fail. Thomas J Walsh target 1 at 10% John Sharp Williams and rolls 15 so fail. Charles F Adams III target 1 at 10% Guilford Wells and rolls 9 so success. Theodore Roosevelt target 2 at 48% or 58% if Lib Francis P Murphy and Sec of Commerce Henry L. Stimson Rolls 26 and 34, so both succeed. James H Berry target 1 at 43% Hoke Smith and rolls 49 so fail. Mark Hanna target 1 at 38% or 48% if Mod Sen Frank Hiscock and rolls 76 so fail. Robert E Pattison target 2 at 10% or 20% if Mod @matthewyoung123 who do you target? Edited April 22 by Ich_bin_Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Politician Conversions Part 2 Faction Leader Conversions Cannot target Free Trade Democrats, Moderate Democrats, or Progressive Whigs. Must be marked pliable and have same or adjacent ideology. Robert E Pattison target 2 at 10% or 20% if Mod @matthewyoung123 who do you target? William E Russell of MA in SKing faction Woodrow Wilson of NJ in Mark_W faction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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