Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: UK- Improve Relations 100/75, so no impact. France- Increase Trade Relations 29/25-75, so no impact. Russia- Improve Relations 95/25-75, so relations decrease to trending Enemies. Germany- Improve Relations 67/75, so relations increase to trending Neutral (no longer Hostile). China- Increase Trade Relations 77/25-75, so no impact. Japan- Improve Relations 62/25-75, so no impact. Results in bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Results in bold. These are the crappiest rolls for some of the best ambassadors we've seen! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Third Seminole War Need 4 victories or 9 losses. Battle 1: Battle of Lake Okeechobee Difficulty: Moderate -10 Planning: Sec of War Henderson (+4) and Sr Gen Johnston (+4) General Leading Battle: Gen Alpheus S Williams (+40) Military Prep: +15 Military Benchmarks: +20 Chance of Success: 73% Roll: 53, success! Williams gains Military Leadership, Leadership, and loses Obscure Battle 2: Battle of Fort Barrancas Difficulty: Difficult -25 Planning: Sec of War Henderson (+4) and Sr Gen Johnston (+4) General Leading Battle: Gen Peter H Bell (+40) Military Prep: +15 Military Benchmarks: +20 Chance of Success: 58% Roll: 40, success! Bell gains Mil +1, Military Leadership Battle 3: Battle of Pine Island Ridge Difficulty: Difficult -25 Planning: Sec of War Henderson (+4) and Sr Gen Johnston (+4) General Leading Battle: Gen James S Wadsworth (+20) Military Prep: +15 Military Benchmarks: +20 Chance of Success: 38% Roll: 5, success! Wadsworth gains Mil +1 Battle 4: Battle of Ambrister Difficulty: Difficult -25 Planning: Sec of War Henderson (+4) and Sr Gen Johnston (+4) General Leading Battle: Gen Peter H Bell (+50) Military Prep: +15 Military Benchmarks: +20 Chance of Success: 68% Roll: 20, success! Rolled a 2/3, so Gen Bell is killed in battle. He will go down as a hero in the battle against the Seminoles. Five battles have been won, but new war rules don't say when a military phase ends so I just chose the requisite number of battles to win the war as a check on if it ends. For overseeing the war, Sr Gen Johnston gains Legis +1. Pres Polk sees another over and Party Pref moves +1 Blue (now perfectly Neutral) and Cons +1 Blue (maxed Blue +3). Treaty of Payne's Landing Implementation Pres Polk, Sec of State Freeman Polk rolls 9/50, Freeman 78/80 so treaty if successfully implemented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: These are the crappiest rolls for some of the best ambassadors we've seen! LOL Traded those bad rolls for good war rolls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Traded those bad rolls for good war rolls. If we aren't careful with the Ambassador rolls, we'll find ourselves in another war!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Executive Actions Rolled 16/25, so Polk delegates his actions to Sec of Treasury Pollock (Wall St Whigs). Pollock issues 4 executive actions. Pollock's actions Strictly Enforce Fugitive Slave Act Polk rolls 50/10, AG Semple 83/60, Sec Freeman 28/60. So Polk and Semple bungle the implementation of the policy. Polk suffers some minor blow back and Party Pref -1 Blue. Semple, however, gains easily overwhelmed and -1 Admin. @matthewyoung123can immediately replace him. Party Pref +1 Blue Civil Rights factions -1 Blue: Progs, Mods -1 Blue Establish Civil Service Commission Call on Congress to pass specific Economic legislation: Federal excise tax on tobacco Form Commission to Clear out Corruption in Executive Branch New AG will participate so Polk can keep or replace Semple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Executive Actions Rolled 16/25, so Polk delegates his actions to Sec of Treasury Pollock (Wall St Whigs). Pollock issues 4 executive actions. Pollock's actions Strictly Enforce Fugitive Slave Act Polk rolls 50/10, AG Semple 83/60, Sec Freeman 28/60. So Polk and Semple bungle the implementation of the policy. Polk suffers some minor blow back and Party Pref -1 Blue. Semple, however, gains easily overwhelmed and -1 Admin. @matthewyoung123can immediately replace him. Party Pref +1 Blue Civil Rights factions -1 Blue: Progs, Mods -1 Blue Establish Civil Service Commission Call on Congress to pass specific Economic legislation: Federal excise tax on tobacco Form Commission to Clear out Corruption in Executive Branch New AG will participate so Polk can keep or replace Semple. Polk will replace the Incoherent and Easily Overwhelmed Attorney General with the current Ambassador to Germany, Samuel Cony of Maine from Pman faction (5 Admin). Reverdy Johnson of Maryland from Matt's faction will be moved from Ambassador to Russia to Ambassador to Germany. Columbus Delano of Ohio, (5 Admin) from Will's faction will be the new choice for Ambassador to Russia. Edited November 22, 2022 by matthewyoung123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: Polk will replace the Incoherent and Easily Overwhelmed Attorney General with the current Ambassador to the UK, Samuel Cony of Maine from Pman faction (5 Admin). Reverdy Johnson of Maryland from Matt's faction will be moved from Ambassador to Russia to Ambassador to the UK. Columbus Delano of Ohio, (5 Admin) from Will's faction will be the new choice for Ambassador to Russia. All works and is approved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Form Commission to Clear out Corruption in Executive Branch Polk rolls 13/30, AG Cony rolls 62/82, VP Wright rolls 12/50. All implement cleanly and without issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Form Commission to Clear out Corruption in Executive Branch Polk rolls 13/30, AG Cony rolls 62/82, VP Wright rolls 12/50. All implement cleanly and without issue. That's refreshing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 With the admission of MN and OR, the slave and free state balance favors the free states now. Speaker Thurlow Weed and the Sen Pres Pro Temp Francis Granger lose -250 points each and both get -1 in their next reelection bid. The moderate factions each lose -250 points. Domestic stability drops by 2 (already rock bottom) Party Pref Blue -2 (now Red +1) Civil Rights gains 250 pts and Right Wing Activists lose 250 pts. The factions with Civil Rights Blue +1: Progs, Mods -1 Blue Right Wing Activist candidates and nominees gain +2 in the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 @matthewyoung123 @OrangeP47 With the admission of MN and OR, you can move any politician with it as an alternate state there now before we do the Gov elections. For CPUs I would just do the 20% chance for each pol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Minnesota and Oregon Gov elections and Senate Appointments @matthewyoung123 @OrangeP47 please load up the candidates for Gov. After these elections we have the senate appointments and then we begin the 1860 general election. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Minnesota and Oregon Gov elections and Senate Appointments @matthewyoung123 @OrangeP47 please load up the candidates for Gov. After these elections we have the senate appointments and then we begin the 1860 general election. I've loaded mine up. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 MN and OR Gov Stephen Miller of the Abolitionists wins the MN governorship. Appoints William Windom (Senator Class I) and Morton S Wilkinson (Senator Class II) [both Liberal Whigs]. AC Gibbs of the Moderate Whigs barely wins the OR governorship. Appoints James H D Henderson (Senator Class II, Liberal Whigs) and James K Kelly (Senator Class III, Imperialist Dems). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Welcome All to the 1860 General Election @matthewyoung123 @OrangeP47 please load the candidates into the convention, gov, and house sheets. The big question: will Pres James K Polk run for an unprecedented third term in office? State of the national meters Rev-Budget: Cons +1, Progs -1 Domestic Stability: Dems -3 Party Preference: Red +1 LW Populist Enthusiasm: Blue +2 Progressive Enthusiasm: 0 Liberal Enthusiasm: Red +1 Moderate Enthusiasm: 0 Conservative Enthusiasm: Blue +3 Traditionalist Enthusiasm: Blue +3 RW Populist Enthusiasm: Blue +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Welcome All to the 1860 General Election @matthewyoung123 @OrangeP47 please load the candidates into the convention, gov, and house sheets. The big question: will Pres James K Polk run for an unprecedented third term in office? State of the national meters Rev-Budget: Cons +1, Progs -1 Domestic Stability: Dems -3 Party Preference: Red +1 LW Populist Enthusiasm: Blue +2 Progressive Enthusiasm: 0 Liberal Enthusiasm: Red +1 Moderate Enthusiasm: 0 Conservative Enthusiasm: Blue +3 Traditionalist Enthusiasm: Blue +3 RW Populist Enthusiasm: Blue +1 I've added my Reps who are running. Did Govs last night. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 5 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: I've added my Reps who are running. Did Govs last night. Thanks. So we can get all of the Dems in place, does Polk run for a third term? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1860 Election Update Pres James K Polk will run for re-election and stifles interparty competition. There is no other challengers at the convention and Polk will be nominated unanimously. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1860 Whig Convention- Manchester, NH The Whigs meet to nominate a candidate at the height of their congressional and state power. They have been plagued in recent conventions with infighting and disagreement with many of the big names of the party being unacceptable to other factions. Will they create a clusterf*ck of this election again? Major Candidates Senator and Pres Pro Tempore of the Senate Francis Granger of NY Associate Justice of the Supreme Court John McLean of OH 1856 VP nominee and darling of the progressive wing Lyman Trumbull of IL Minor Candidates Fmr Gubernatorial Candidate Alexander H Stephens of GA Fmr Gov William F Johnston of PA Senator Zachariah Chandler of MI Fmr Governor and Secretary of State William H Seward of NY (how the mighty have fallen) Fmr Governor Samuel C Pomeroy of MA Nominating Speeches James C McGrew of VA nominates Francis Granger. Granger gets an automatic speech boost for being runner-up at the last convention. Momentum +1 Gov David Wallace of IN nominates John McLean. Rolls 6, Momentum +1. Lot Morrill of ME nominates Lyman Trumbull. Rolls 1, Momentum -1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 1860 Whig Convention Ballot 1 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) Francis Granger- 370 Lyman Trumbull- 94 Samuel C Pomeroy- 74 John McLean- 72 William F Johnston- 54 Zachariah Chandler- 24 William H Seward- 17 Alexander H Stephens- 10 Francis Granger falls short 100 delegates. He loses 1 Mo (now +1). For coming in second, Lyman Trumbull gains +1 Mo (now 0). Interballot actions Alexander Stephens offers to drop out to Francis Granger and accept a cabinet position for the Trad Whigs. Granger declines the offer. Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 2, so nothing. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Alexander Stephens attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Lyman Trumbull attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Alexander Stephens attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Lyman Trumbull attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 3, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 1+2=3 Lyman Trumbull 0+1=1 Samuel C Pomeroy 0+1=1 John McLean 1+2=3 William F Johnston 0 Zachariah Chandler 0 William H Seward 0 Alexander H Stephens 0+2=2 Edited November 25, 2022 by Ich_bin_Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 1860 Whig Convention Ballot 2 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) Francis Granger- 370 Lyman Trumbull- 94 Samuel C Pomeroy- 74 John McLean- 72 William F Johnston- 54 Zachariah Chandler- 24 William H Seward- 17 Alexander H Stephens- 10 There was no change in delegates as Granger tied in momentum and is Party Leader. Interballot actions Alexander Stephens calls for a rules change but no one joins him. Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 2, so nothing. Alexander Stephens attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Lyman Trumbull attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 3, so nothing. Alexander Stephens attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 1, so nothing. Lyman Trumbull attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 2, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 3+3=6 Lyman Trumbull 1 Samuel C Pomeroy 1+1=2 John McLean 3+1=4 William F Johnston 0 Zachariah Chandler 0 William H Seward 0 Alexander H Stephens 2+1=3 Ballot 3 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) There was no change in delegates as Granger tied in momentum and is Party Leader. Interballot actions Francis Granger calls for a rules change but no one joins him. Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 2, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 1, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 3, so nothing. Alexander Stephens attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 1, so nothing. Lyman Trumbull attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 1, so nothing. Alexander Stephens attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Lyman Trumbull attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 3, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 2, so nothing. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 3, so nothing. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 6+1=7 Lyman Trumbull 1 Samuel C Pomeroy 2 John McLean 4 William F Johnston 0 Zachariah Chandler 0 William H Seward 0 Alexander H Stephens 3+1=4 Ballot 4 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) There was no change in delegates as Granger tied in momentum and is Party Leader. Interballot actions Lyman Trumbull offers a presidential promise to William F Johnston. Offers a Supreme Court seat to the Wall St Whigs. Johnston accepts and endorses Trumbull. +1 Mo. Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Alexander Stephens attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 2, so nothing. Lyman Trumbull attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 1, so nothing. Alexander Stephens attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Lyman Trumbull attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 2, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 2, so nothing. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 1, so nothing. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 7+2=9 Lyman Trumbull 1+1=2 Samuel C Pomeroy 2+1=3 John McLean 4+1=5 Zachariah Chandler 0 William H Seward 0 Alexander H Stephens 4+1=5 Edited November 25, 2022 by Ich_bin_Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 1860 Whig Convention Ballot 5 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) Francis Granger- 411 (+41) Lyman Trumbull- 108 (+14) Samuel C Pomeroy- 74 John McLean- 72 Zachariah Chandler- 24 William H Seward- 17 Alexander H Stephens- 10 Francis Granger gained the most delegates and received +1 Mo. Interballot actions Alexander Stephens withdraws and endorses Francis Granger, +1 Mo. Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 3, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 1, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 1, so nothing. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 3, so nothing. Lyman Trumbull attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 2, so nothing. Lyman Trumbull attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 1, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 6, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 4, so nothing. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 9+3=12 Lyman Trumbull 2 Samuel C Pomeroy 3 John McLean 5 Zachariah Chandler 0 William H Seward 0 Ballot 6 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) Francis Granger- 421 (+10) Lyman Trumbull- 108 Samuel C Pomeroy- 74 John McLean- 72 Zachariah Chandler- 24 William H Seward- 17 Francis Granger gained the most delegates and received +1 Mo. Interballot actions William Seward offers to withdraw and accept a cabinet position for the Liberal Whigs to Francis Granger. Granger declines. William Seward withdraws without a promise and endorses Francis Granger. +1 Mo Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 2, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 1, so nothing. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 3, so nothing. Lyman Trumbull attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. Lyman Trumbull attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 4, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 3, so nothing. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 1, so nothing. The Trad Whigs call for compromise candidates, but no one joins them. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 12+3=15 Lyman Trumbull 2+1=3 Samuel C Pomeroy 3 John McLean 5 Zachariah Chandler 0 Ballot 7 (need 2/3s, 480 delegates) Francis Granger- 438 (+17) Lyman Trumbull- 108 Samuel C Pomeroy- 74 John McLean- 72 Zachariah Chandler- 24 Francis Granger gained the most delegates and received +1 Mo. Interballot actions Francis Granger and Zachariah Chandler call for a rules change. Granger wants 50%+1 to win and Chandler wants 75% to win Traditionalist Whigs 50%+1 Wall Street Whigs 50%+1 Moderate Whigs 50%+1 Liberal Whigs 75% Abolitionists 50%+1 50%+1 wins 25-7 Unit rule Traditionalist Whigs Aye Wall Street Whigs Nay Moderate Whigs Aye Liberal Whigs Aye Abolitionists Nay Unit rule passes 19-13 Francis Granger offers a Presidential Promise to Lyman Trumbull. Offers Sec of War to Abolitionists. Trumbull accepts and endorses Granger, +1 Mo. Zachariah Chandler withdraws and endorses Francis Granger. Samuel C Pomeroy attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 3, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to influence smoke filled rooms. Rolled 2, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to whip party into compliance. Rolled 4, so nothing. John McLean attempts to appeal to integrity. Rolled 2, so nothing. Francis Granger attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 5, +1 Mo. John McLean attempts to make an appeal to credibility. Rolled 4, so nothing. The Wall St Whigs call for compromise candidates, but no one joins them. Total Momentum in Next Ballot Francis Granger 15+3=18 Samuel C Pomeroy 3 John McLean 5 Edited November 25, 2022 by Ich_bin_Tyler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 1860 Whig Convention Ballot 8 (need 50%+1, 361delegates) Francis Granger- 559 (+121) John McLean- 109 (+37) Samuel C Pomeroy- 52 (-22) Senator Francis Granger wins the Whig nomination for the 1860 election! VP Selection Granger as Party Leader and nominee will select the VP unilaterally. Granger selects law professor James Speed of KY (Liberal Whigs). Edited November 25, 2022 by Ich_bin_Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1860 Whig Convention Whig Platform Domestic: Establish Congressional Gag Rule Against Slave Power Bills and Debate Economic: Federal excise tax on alcohol Judicial: Abolish Slavery by Compensating Owners Act Military/Foreign: Increase the size of the navy Executive: Reform Executive Appointments (Party Cabinet balance) Keynote Speaker Fmr Sen Nathaniel Tallmadge of NY (Trad Whigs). Rolls a 4, so nothing happens. 1860 Democratic Convention Meanwhile in St. Louis, MO, Pres James Polk needs to select his VP, platform, and keynote speaker. @matthewyoung123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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