pman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 8 hours ago, ebrk85 said: PLEASE READ THE RULES IN THESE SECTIONS IF YOU ARE NOT SURE. THIS PART DID NOT GO WELL IN THE OTHER PLAYTEST IN THAT REGARD. 2.1.6 Politician Conversions Check for a disgruntled ideology Red Prog and Blue Con/Trad can flip None do. Targeting Opposing Party Members Only Party Leaders can attempt to convert someone from another party, so long as their target is marked for “Party Flipping.” 10Cent, jnewt, pman and WillScout cannot be targeted @DJBillyShakes Sen Olsen- 1 attempt at 43% chance @pman Pres Stephens- 1 attempt at 10% if pliable; 5% if Moderate Targeting Same-Party Members of Another Faction Both Party Leaders and Faction Leaders may target same-party members of other factions, so long as their target is marked “pliable” AND has the same personal ideology as the faction leader making the conversion attempt. 10Cent, jnewt, pman and WillScout cannot be targeted @10centjimmy John A Burns- 1 attempt at 10% chance @jnewt Martin Luther King Jr- 2 attempts at 58% chance @DJBillyShakes Arnold Olsen- 1 attempt at 58% chance @ShortKing Mary E Clarke- 1 attempt at 10% chance ECCPU Robert C Murphy- 1 attempt at 10% chance @Arkansas Progressive Mike Castle- 1 attempt at 33% chance @dkh64 Alfred Driscoll- 1 attempt at 10% chance @Rezi Arnold Schwarzenegger- 1 attempt at 43% chance @pman Stan Stephens- 1 attempt at 25% chance WillScout Meldrim Thomson Jr- 1 attempt at 10% chance 2.1.7 Kingmakers & Proteges See rules doc for details From Entrecampos CPU faction- Sonny Perdue (rules for party flipping says they only have to be marked party flipping) which he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 9 hours ago, pman said: From Entrecampos CPU faction- Sonny Perdue (rules for party flipping says they only have to be marked party flipping) which he is Correct but since you are not manipulative your chance of success is 0% unless he is pliable (10%) or Moderate (5%). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 43 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: Correct but since you are not manipulative your chance of success is 0% unless he is pliable (10%) or Moderate (5%). I’ll just pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 19 hours ago, dkh64 said: Relocate Politicians Robert Mosbacher TX -> NC (alt state) Done John F Kelly VA ->DC (alt state) Done Mitt Romney MA->UT (alt state) Done Frederick Weyand CA->HI (alt state) Done David Dreier CA -> ID (over to under) Fails 69/25 Ideology Shifts 5 (+2 iron fist) Jim Bunning mod-> con Fails 97/50 gains Flip-flopper and Pliable Louie Nunn mod -> con Succeeds 37/50 Bill Walker mod -> con Succeeds 22/50 John Paul Stevens lib -> mod Succeeds 65/10 gains Pliable Nelson Rockefeller lib ->mod Succeeds 35/75 gains Flip-flopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 22 hours ago, Arkansas Progressive said: Conversions Target @Rezi Colin Powell Fails 88/10 Kingmakers Dick Thornburgh will take on William Scranton III Gains Science, Expansionist, Efficient, +1 Admin (his 1st) 22 hours ago, jnewt said: Shirley Chisholm will take on Al Sharpton as a master protege Gains Education, Labor, LW Activist, Provincial, +1 Command (his 1st!), +1 Admin (his 1st), another +1 Command 21 hours ago, 10centjimmy said: Noam Chomsky takes on Mike Gravel as a Master Kingmaker pairing Gains Education, Naval, Propagandist, Controversial, +2 Admin (his 1sts), +1 Command (his 1st!) 21 hours ago, ShortKing said: J William Kime will take on Beverly Byron Gains Housing, +1 Military (her 1st) 21 hours ago, Rezi said: Politician Conversions: Target Scott Jensen @Arkansas Progressive Fails 73/43 Kingmakers William L Armstrong will take on Donald Brotzman (CO) Gains Education, Controversial, +1 Admin (his 1st) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, pman said: I’ll just pass No kingmakers either? With Stan Stephens becoming President his Kingmaker pairing with Lauch Faircloth ends. Faircloth is already a Master Kingmaker so no roll needed for Promotion to Master Kingmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBillyShakes Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) Conversions @Arkansas Progressive Mark Welsh ECCPU Elaine Edwards Kingmakers Master kingmaker David H Pryor takes on General Audie Murphy as a protege. Edited April 19 by DJBillyShakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, ebrk85 said: Lauch Faircloth Meet our new key advisor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 56 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: No kingmakers either? With Stan Stephens becoming President his Kingmaker pairing with Lauch Faircloth ends. Faircloth is already a Master Kingmaker so no roll needed for Promotion to Master Kingmaker. Launch takes in my Arizona charisma pol( I’ll look tomorrow morning for her name) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, DJBillyShakes said: Conversions @Arkansas Progressive Mark Welsh Succeeds 30/43 ECCPU Elaine Edwards Fails 88/58 Kingmakers Master kingmaker David H Pryor takes on General Audie Murphy as a protege. I processed it and then ran across the below and had to reverse it. the following offices cannot be made into a protege (although they can be a protege before attaining these offices): president, VP, Speaker, House Min Ldr, Sen Maj Ldr, Sen Min Ldr, anyone with a military office, anyone on the US Supreme Court. 12 minutes ago, pman said: Launch takes in my Arizona charisma pol( I’ll look tomorrow morning for her name) Jane Dee Hull but she is already a protege of another Kingmaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBillyShakes Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 49 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: Master kingmaker David H Pryor takes on General Audie Murphy as a protege. I processed it and then ran across the below and had to reverse it. the following offices cannot be made into a protege (although they can be a protege before attaining these offices): president, VP, Speaker, House Min Ldr, Sen Maj Ldr, Sen Min Ldr, anyone with a military office, anyone on the US Supreme Court. Always fun to learn a new rule. No kingmaker moves for now then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Thanks @ebrk85, Jane Dee Hull is who I meant- I'll pass on kingmaker pairings then this turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 2.1.8 Determine Faction Personalities (changes only) @Rezi Added: Conservatives, RW Activists, RW Media; Lost: Moderates WillScout Added: Nationalists, Military-Industrial @pman Added: Law & Order; Lost: Nationalists, RW Media @ShortKing Lost: Reformists, Law & Order @10centjimmy Added: Environmentalists @jnewt Added: Transportation; Lost: Military-Industrial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, ebrk85 said: @ShortKing Lost: Reformists, Law & Order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 2.2.1 Congressional Leadership Elected Speaker of the House- @pman Bob Wilson (cannot be challenged) House Majority Leader- OPEN House Majority Whip- OPEN Eligible pols are: @Rezi James L Buckley, John E Davis, William Knowland, Robert D Orr; @pman Glenn Robert Davis, Larry Craig; WillScout Whip Donald Reigle, John Warner, Phil Crane Incumbent Maj Whip Donald Riegle will run for House Majority Leader House Minority Leader- @jnewt Shirley Chisholm (cannot be challenged) House Minority Whip- OPEN Eligible pols are: @DJBillyShakes Thomas J Dodd, Ed Koch; @10centjimmy Harrison Williams Senate Majority Leader- @pman Ted Stevens Senate Majority Whip- WillScout Sam Yorty Eligible challengers are: @dkh64 Keith Sebelius Senate Minority Leader- OPEN Senate Minority Whip- OPEN Eligible pols are: @DJBillyShakes Arnold Olsen, Che Salazar, Dick Celeste; @ShortKing Claiborne Pell; ECCPU James Eastland, Cardiss Collins; @jnewt Tip O'Neill, Henry M Jackson, William L Guy; @10centjimmy James Roosevelt, Soapy Williams, Robert F Wagner Jr, John E Fogarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, ebrk85 said: 2.1.8 Determine Faction Personalities (changes only) @Rezi Added: Conservatives, RW Activists, RW Media; Lost: Moderates WillScout Added: Nationalists, Military-Industrial @pman Added: Law & Order; Lost: Nationalists, RW Media @ShortKing Lost: Reformists, Law & Order @10centjimmy Added: Environmentalists @jnewt Added: Transportation; Lost: Military-Industrial Losing RW media stings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I like how I got no cards changed in both playtests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkh64 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, ebrk85 said: 2.2.1 Congressional Leadership Elected Senate Majority Whip- WillScout Sam Yorty Eligible challengers are: @dkh64 Keith Sebelius Keith won't challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Below is what I have for the House- I'll just have to take out of committee whomever becomes Majority Leader in the House but this gives anyone who wants to double check my work a chance to. I am busy most of the weekend but I'll try to fit in the Senate when I get a chance. House Foreign: Robert D Orr Chair Donald Riegle Virginia Foxx John P East David T Martin Steve Vaillancourt Raymond Donovan Chic Hecht Reverend Ammons Ted Poe Harry P Cain Barbara Cubin Paula Hawkins Chuck Grassley Phil Crane Albert Morano David McKinley Thruston B Morton Mike Hayden R Lawrence Coughlin -19 House Judicial: Pete Domenici- chair ark Daniel Dearborne Michael Huffington Machida Mateo Bill McCollum Greg Ganske Marlow Cook James Holshouser Hugh Scott John Kennedy Robert P Griffin Andre Marrou Jeremiah Denton Jack Edwards Billy Gonzalez Amo Houghton Robert Taft Jr Richard Schweiker John Heinz -19 House Economic: John Warner-chair will Ken Kramer Don Gaetz Cliff Stearns Bob Livingston William Milliken John Kline Roy Blunt Thad Cochran John E Davis Don Nickles Bill Brock Tom DeLay Dan Patrick Wallace Bennett Jim Gilmore Andrew P Miller Glenn Robert Davis Don Sundquist -19 House Domestic: Harold W Handley- Chair John Boozman Paul Fannin Houston Flournoy David Perdue Saxby Chambliss Larry Craig Edward F Arn Lawrence Hogan David Stockman Phyllis Schlafly Donald Nutter James Traficant Carroll Campbell Jr Bill Thomas John W Byrnes Joe Wilson Joe Foss Richard W Mallary Pete McCloskey -20 Edited April 21 by pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) 20 hours ago, ebrk85 said: Congressional Leadership I'll put forward Harrison Williams for House Minority Whip House Minority Leader - @jnewt Shirley Chisholm House Minority Whip - @10centjimmy Harrison Williams Senate Minority Leader - @DJBillyShakes Arnold Olsen Senate Minority Whip - @ShortKing Claiborne Pell Edited April 20 by 10centjimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 William Knowland will run for House Majority Leader James L Buckley will run for House Majority Whip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Atari Democrats will support the following slate of Congressional Leaders: House Minority Leader - @jnewt Shirley Chisholm House Minority Whip - @10centjimmy Harrison Williams Senate Minority Leader - @DJBillyShakes Arnold Olsen Senate Minority Whip - @ShortKing Claiborne Pell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) I am not running anyone for House Minority Leader or Whip btw Edited April 20 by pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 @Rezi James L Buckley will become House Maj Whip We have a race for House Maj Leader: @Rezi William Knowland vs WillScout current Whip Donald Riegle How do you vote? @pman @dkh64 @Arkansas Progressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkh64 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Knowland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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