OrangeP47 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: We can do the Supreme Court now because they won't impact the convention. Long-term ideology drift Caleb Cushing does not shift and remains Cons Joseph P Bradley shits to the left from Mod to Lib The Court will hear one case O'Reilly v Morse Is an abstract idea patent-eligible? Initial votes Salmon P Chase- Nay John McLean- Aye Jacob Collamer- Nay Caleb Cushing- Nay Joseph P Bradley- Nay Benjamin Thomas- Nay George Vail- Nay No conversions can occur, so the initial vote stands. The Court decides 1 Aye to 8 Nay. Amazingly wikipedia doesn't have what the vote breakdown IRL for this case was, other than this is the historical outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: Amazingly wikipedia doesn't have what the vote breakdown IRL for this case was, other than this is the historical outcome. How strange...wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Congress in Session Proposers House @OrangeP47 @matthewyoung123 @Willthescout7 Conservative Dems Thomas Swann Lawrence Trimble Copperhead Dems George Vickers Semple Dems George Washington Julian Moderate Whigs Ebenezer Knowlton Liberal Whigs George G Wright John L Taylor Abolitionists Edward V Whiton Senate @Willthescout7 Wall Street Whigs William Higby Moderate Whigs John White Alexander C M Pennington Nathaniel B Smithers Abolitionists Samuel P Benson David Potts Jr William P Fessenden Orris S Ferry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: How strange...wonder why? I found elsewhere it was 5-3, so apparently slightly controversial at least unlike here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Congress in Session Proposers House @OrangeP47 @matthewyoung123 @Willthescout7 Conservative Dems Thomas Swann Lawrence Trimble Copperhead Dems George Vickers Semple Dems George Washington Julian Moderate Whigs Ebenezer Knowlton Liberal Whigs George G Wright John L Taylor Abolitionists Edward V Whiton Senate @Willthescout7 Wall Street Whigs William Higby Moderate Whigs John White Alexander C M Pennington Nathaniel B Smithers Abolitionists Samuel P Benson David Potts Jr William P Fessenden Orris S Ferry Thomas Swann (2) Proposes West Virginia Statehood Lawrence Trimble (2) Proposes Create Temporary Wartime Income Tax on a progressive scale of 5% to 10% for most incomes George Washington Julian (3) Proposes Grant States the Power to Secede Amendment (lmao) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Just now, OrangeP47 said: George Washington Julian (3) Proposes Grant States the Power to Secede Amendment (lmao) He's a little late to the party with that one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Congress in Session Proposers House @OrangeP47 @matthewyoung123 @Willthescout7 Conservative Dems Thomas Swann Lawrence Trimble Copperhead Dems George Vickers Semple Dems George Washington Julian Moderate Whigs Ebenezer Knowlton Liberal Whigs George G Wright John L Taylor Abolitionists Edward V Whiton Senate @Willthescout7 Wall Street Whigs William Higby Moderate Whigs John White Alexander C M Pennington Nathaniel B Smithers Abolitionists Samuel P Benson David Potts Jr William P Fessenden Orris S Ferry Repeal "No barriers on immigration based on nationality." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 minute ago, ebrk85 said: He's a little late to the party with that one! He rolled to prioritize dealing with crisis meters, our only crisis meter is dom stab, that prop has a 25% chance of boosting dom stab and was the first rng hit haha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 Whig Convention: Category 1: CT, KS, KY, LC, ME Category 2: MO, NE, NH, NJ, PA Category 3: DE, WI, OR, UC, VT Category 4: NY, MD, MI, MN, RI Category 5: IA, IL, MA, OH, IN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Willthescout7 said: Whig Convention: Category 1: CT, KS, KY, LC, ME Category 2: MO, NE, NH, NJ, PA Category 3: DE, WI, OR, UC, VT Category 4: NY, MD, MI, MN, RI Category 5: IA, IL, MA, OH, IN Great! Now give me that Whigs legislation. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 Ebenezer Knowlton proposes to Abolish Slavery by compensating owners. George G Wright proposes to increase Defense Spending John L Taylor proposes an amendment to abolish slavery Edward V Whiton proposes a bill a bill promising Federal Aid for the Welfare of the Indigent Insane William Higby proposes a federal excise tax on sugar John White proposes establish federal gag rule on slave power bill and debate Alexander CM Pennington proposes equal voting rights for woman amendment Nathaniel B Smithers proposes Montana territory (if we don't have Montana yet then he proposes to allow those who can afford it to provide a substitute if they are drafted) Samuel B Benson proposes to allow freed slaves to rent abandoned farms until they can purchase them David Potts Jr proposes Deseret statehood under Mormon government (if not possible increase funding for ongoing war) William P Fessenden proposes to create a national university Orris S Ferry proposes to allow former slaves and free blacks to serve in the military 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Willthescout7 said: Ebenezer Knowlton proposes to Abolish Slavery by compensating owners. George G Wright proposes to increase Defense Spending John L Taylor proposes an amendment to abolish slavery Edward V Whiton proposes a bill a bill promising Federal Aid for the Welfare of the Indigent Insane William Higby proposes a federal excise tax on sugar John White proposes establish federal gag rule on slave power bill and debate Alexander CM Pennington proposes equal voting rights for woman amendment Nathaniel B Smithers proposes Montana territory (if we don't have Montana yet then he proposes to allow those who can afford it to provide a substitute if they are drafted) Samuel B Benson proposes to allow freed slaves to rent abandoned farms until they can purchase them David Potts Jr proposes Deseret statehood under Mormon government (if not possible increase funding for ongoing war) William P Fessenden proposes to create a national university Orris S Ferry proposes to allow former slaves and free blacks to serve in the military @Ich_bin_Tyler, Point of Order...I think we already have a gag rule on slave power bill and debate...but the others look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: @Ich_bin_Tyler, Point of Order...I think we already have a gag rule on slave power bill and debate...but the others look good. My recollection is that it failed in the Senate or House, but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 What's interesting is that we essentially ran out of options to improve domestic stability. Their was only one real good one left and we didn't meat the requirements 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Willthescout7 said: What's interesting is that we essentially ran out of options to improve domestic stability. Their was only one real good one left and we didn't meat the requirements Trust me, Polk was looking for two terms to do something to improve it...and there just aren't many options short of the 10% chance when admitting new states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 Surprisingly, equal voting rights for women gives a boost. So even though it will probably fail, here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Willthescout7 said: Ebenezer Knowlton proposes to Abolish Slavery by compensating owners. George G Wright proposes to increase Defense Spending John L Taylor proposes an amendment to abolish slavery Edward V Whiton proposes a bill a bill promising Federal Aid for the Welfare of the Indigent Insane William Higby proposes a federal excise tax on sugar John White proposes establish federal gag rule on slave power bill and debate Alexander CM Pennington proposes equal voting rights for woman amendment Nathaniel B Smithers proposes Montana territory (if we don't have Montana yet then he proposes to allow those who can afford it to provide a substitute if they are drafted) Samuel B Benson proposes to allow freed slaves to rent abandoned farms until they can purchase them David Potts Jr proposes Deseret statehood under Mormon government (if not possible increase funding for ongoing war) William P Fessenden proposes to create a national university Orris S Ferry proposes to allow former slaves and free blacks to serve in the military I'd question if we can do Deseret during active Mormon War tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said: I'd question if we can do Deseret during active Mormon War tbh. Logged onto discord and saw you already checked and it does matter... I change my statement to maybe it SHOULD matter, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 Probably, though this could be considered legislation to end the war as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 @vcczaris it possible to create the state of Deseret if there is an active Mormon war? we guess no bit the legiprops don't say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, Willthescout7 said: @vcczaris it possible to create the state of Deseret if there is an active Mormon war? we guess no bit the legiprops don't say I have nothing against it at the moment, but that is a good point. Could just say the state was made to hope to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted December 12, 2022 Author Share Posted December 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, vcczar said: I have nothing against it at the moment, but that is a good point. Could just say the state was made to hope to end it. That's an option we threw out but wanted your thoughts on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) On 12/10/2022 at 8:02 PM, matthewyoung123 said: Repeal "No barriers on immigration based on nationality." This is not a repealable, so please pick another. Thanks! Edited December 14, 2022 by Ich_bin_Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) House Domestic Federal Aid for the Welfare of the indigent insane Military/Foreign West Virginia Statehood Create Temporary Wartime Income Tax on a progressive scale of 5% to 10% for most incomes Increase Defense Spending Economic Create a non-partisan, independent treasury to handle the banking and financial wellbeing of the country Judicial Abolish Slavery Amendment Grant States the Power to Secede Amendment Abolish Slavery by Compensating Owners Act Senate Domestic Establish Congressional Gag Rule Against Slave Power Bills and Debate Allow Freed Slaves to Rent Abandoned Farms until they can purchase them Create National University Military/Foreign Montana Territory Allow Former Slaves and Freed Blacks to serve in the military Deseret Statehood under Mormon government Economic Federal excise tax on Sugar Judicial Equal Voting Rights for Women Amendment Edited December 15, 2022 by Ich_bin_Tyler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: This is not a repealable, so please pick another. Thanks! Create a non-partisan, independent treasury to handle the banking and financial wellbeing of the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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