Timur Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) https://thehill.com/news/campaign/3462899-58-percent-of-voters-open-to-backing-independent-candidate-if-faced-with-biden-trump-poll/ Edited April 26, 2022 by Timur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaHale Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Jeb!’s time to shine 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, DakotaHale said: Jeb!’s time to shine Based and "please I just want two normal nominees next time"-pilled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 38 minutes ago, Patine said: The grandson of Prescott Bush, the son of George H.W. Bush, and the younger brother of George W. Bush? One would be naive to expect his family heritage to be at all an irrelevance. It's a political family as rotten as the Samosas and the Bhuttos were. Ah yes, Benazir Bhutto, the feminist prime minister who supported the Taliban. What a contradiction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentLiberty Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Give me a Pence Buttigeg 2024 match up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentLiberty Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Patine said: Is that sardonic humour? No. If it was who I really wanted it'd have been Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders but in 2016. Don't think Hickenlooper has a chance. Tulsi has faded. Any of the people I'd really want just don't have the chance or are too old. So settling for two who I think could handle the job. 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 5:23 PM, Timur said: https://thehill.com/news/campaign/3462899-58-percent-of-voters-open-to-backing-independent-candidate-if-faced-with-biden-trump-poll/ I was predicting high 3rd party turnout in 2024 if both were the nominees again about a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentLiberty Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Patine said: My point is, first, they're both from the same home State, and second, Pence came on the radar, politically and nationally, with a State law that allowed - and practically, by tenor, encouraged - businesses to deny service to people whom, "the morally of their lifestyle they disagreed with," (a big call out for LGBTQ people) with no possibility of legal reprocussions, while Buttigieg was the first openly gay man to make a high profile bid for U.S. President. Do you see why I might have thought your statement was sardonic humour, from that perspective? Yeah I get it! I think, unfortunately, regardless of who the two nominees end up being there will be some twisted humor to be found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I think if I could have a close-to-ideal ticket, it would be a Sanders-Warren ticket, but they're too old. So, I'd probably favor Ro Khanna-Sherrod Brown. The downside to this ticket is that Ro Khanna's name would probably turn people off; however, it didn't hurt Barack Obama, although Obama is Obama. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timur Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 hours ago, vcczar said: I think if I could have a close-to-ideal ticket, it would be a Sanders-Warren ticket, but they're too old. So, I'd probably favor Ro Khanna-Sherrod Brown. The downside to this ticket is that Ro Khanna's name would probably turn people off; however, it didn't hurt Barack Obama, although Obama is Obama. I just checked about him being a possiblity for President. It's interesting that he will take interviews from all over the place. "He does late-night TV and mainstream TV and partisan TV. Ben Shapiro, Katie Halper, Michael Moore, Brian Kilmeade, Christian Broadcast Network — he’s done them all. He’ll join your podcast, your radio show, he’ll come to you live via Fox, MSNBC — whatever you watch." - Politico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark2 Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 so, when's beetlejuice running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Obviously related to age. I think if Biden were still in his 60s, there'd be very few people calling for a moderate independent when Biden is a moderate himself. I think this is just a clear reaction of "Hey, maybe we're tempting fate by consistently electing the people who are closest to imminent death within the next 4-8 years." So, not a "We don't like Biden" poll, but a "Hey, this age thing is getting out of hand" poll. That said, if Trump is the Republican nominee, I want the independent to be a conservative. Siphon those votes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 7:55 PM, vcczar said: I think if I could have a close-to-ideal ticket, it would be a Sanders-Warren ticket, but they're too old. So, I'd probably favor Ro Khanna-Sherrod Brown. The downside to this ticket is that Ro Khanna's name would probably turn people off; however, it didn't hurt Barack Obama, although Obama is Obama. I just spent yesterday with Sherrod Brown, for work. He's very good people, but zero chance he runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Another person I think has all the potential in the world but not enough ambition to actually run is Denis McDonough. He was Obama's Deputy National Security Advisor and then served as Obama's Chief of Staff for the entire second term. Now he's Biden's Secretary of the VA. I've worked with a TON of cabinet Secretaries, and I mostly have good things to say about all of them. But McDonough is easily the one I'd be quickest to support for the Presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Patine said: Well, I don't think it's just Papal Conclave-style age of candidates, though. I think there are REALLY a large number of Americans who don't want to face another ballot choice of Biden vs. Trump, or even younger, direct ideological heirs, to be honest. But...the poll says they want a moderate. That is largely a Biden ideological heir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: I just spent yesterday with Sherrod Brown, for work. He's very good people, but zero chance he runs. He's probably my ideal VP-type person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean F Kennedy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, MrPotatoTed said: I just spent yesterday with Sherrod Brown, for work. He's very good people, but zero chance he runs. I can attest to this, Sherrod Brown is the real deal, I had the opportunity to meet him 3 times, ( once in Summer of 2017, again in October 2018 and again in 2020) all times he remembered my name and was very easy to talk to. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 As someone who voted for Biden in part because he positioned himself as a moderate, I do not consider his governing record to be particularly moderate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShortKing said: As someone who voted for Biden in part because he positioned himself as a moderate, I do not consider his governing record to be particularly moderate. You and I are in the same boat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Patine said: I agree fully on his record versus electoral portrayal. MrPotatoTed is obviously in disagreement with all of us, though. His auld lang syne to the moderates that are no longer moderates, but he can't accept it. Alright I gotta give it to ya, that made me laugh. I 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Moderate conservatives think Biden has been too liberal. Liberals think Biden has been too conservative. To me, it means that he's probably been somewhere in the center-left field that I figured he would be in. He has had to adapt to the playing field of Congress, which makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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