Arkansas Progressive Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just now, OrangeP47 said: He's Stephen Douglas but fat. that's who I was thinking of but couldn't place him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: I mean Speed is the Rep from KY 1 but resigned to run for Pres. And now I can run a candidate in that +2 Blue leaning seat without facing an incumbent! 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Platform Assessment Whigs Do the points that the party would gain by fulfilling the platform goals exceed those that the other party would gain? +1 Whigs -200, Dems -2850 Does the score of the lowest scoring faction with the platform exceed the lowest scoring faction of the other party? +1 Tariff Whigs -850, Trad Dems -1100 Does the president’s personal ideology score the most points (or tied)? +0 Mods -250, Prog +500 Democrats +2 Do the points that the party would gain by fulfilling the platform goals exceed those that the other party would gain? +1 Dems +100, Whigs -1150 Does the score of the lowest scoring faction with the platform exceed the lowest scoring faction of the other party? +1 Cons Dems/Imperialists -400, Silver Whigs -1150 Does the president’s personal ideology score the most points (or tied)? +0 Cons +0, Trads +550 Both platforms score +2, so no Party Pref change. Negative ideologies Mods -1 Blue, -1 Red =0 Libs -1 Blue (already maxed Red+3) Prog -1 Blue (already maxed Red+3) Cons -1 Red (now maxed Blue +3) Trad -1 Red (now Blue +1) +1 Blue for highest scoring ideology between planforms (now Blue +2) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Vice President Impact Assessment Whigs: James A Gary +7 VP comes from another faction +1. VP comes from faction with lowest enthusiasm in party, Cons +1 Red. Ticket had a moderate, conservative, or liberal: Mod and Cons +1 (now Blue +2) Ticket is at least 20 years of age apart: 66 and 45 +1. One person on the ticket is older than 50: 66 +1 One person on the ticket is younger than 60: 45 +1. Incumbent ticket with the same Pres and VP +0 If one member (but not both) on the ticket is “independent” or currently not holding office: Speed is Rep and Gary not holding office +1. One member on the ticket is from a Big State and one from a Small State: KY, MD- Med +0. Members on the tickets come from different regions; Upper South and MidAtlantic +1. Obscure VP Rolled 4, Gary keeps Obscure, gains Lackey, Pliable +0 Democrats: George H Pendleton +5 VP comes from another faction +1. Ticket had a moderate, conservative, or liberal: Cons and Trad +0. Ticket is at least 20 years of age apart: 63 and 53 +0 One person on the ticket is older than 50: 63 +1 One person on the ticket is younger than 60: 53 +1. Incumbent ticket with the same Pres and VP +1 If one member (but not both) on the ticket is “independent” or currently not holding office: Cobb can be independent +1. One member on the ticket is from a Big State and one from a Small State: GA- Med, OH- Big +0. Members on the tickets come from different regions: Deep South and Midwest +1. Known VP 79/50, -1 Somehow, Gary is the better VP. Party Pref +1 Red (now Red +2) I also noticed that Speed has the Unlikeable & Lackey trait...who is he a Lackey for or do we know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: Honestly if it were down to appearance, I'd vote Speed-Gary. Cobb has such a doughy face. He has a beard by now, but not a very good one 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: I also noticed that Speed has the Unlikeable & Lackey trait...who is he a Lackey for or do we know? He picked it up when he was announced as VP. So he was a Lackey to Granger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Keynote Speakers Democrats George Vest (Imperialists) Rolled 2, nothing happens. Whigs ME Gov Hannibal Hamlin (Business Whigs) Rolled 5, +1 in next primary for President and loses Obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just now, Ich_bin_Tyler said: He picked it up when he was announced as VP. So he was a Lackey to Granger. Speed: Shows undying loyalty to Granger Granger: Insults Speed every chance he gets and inexplicably still keeps him on the ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Euri said: Speed: Shows undying loyalty to Granger Granger: Insults Speed every chance he gets and inexplicably still keeps him on the ticket The first Dom-Sub political relationship 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 1880 Presidential Election No Third Party challenges can occur, so we go to campaign actions. But before that, we will load up the rest of the Gov and House candidates. So the election is on pause for a bit. Edited June 2, 2023 by Ich_bin_Tyler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just now, Ich_bin_Tyler said: The first Dom-Sub political relationship This is quite unpleasant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: He picked it up when he was announced as VP. So he was a Lackey to Granger. And Granger treated him like a rented MULE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1880 Presidential Election Action Phase 1 Cobb-Pendleton Incumbent Using the Power of Their Office Rolled 4, nothing happens. Send VP to Shore Up Support Pendleton is Harmonious: Rolled 4, nothing happens. Scandal Roll Has Integrity, so rolls are skipped. Speed-Gary Send VP to Shore Up Support Rolled 6, +1 in MD Scandal Roll Rolled 5, then rolled 6: Major scandal -2 in election. Action Phase 2 Cobb-Pendleton Incumbent Using the Power of Their Office Rolled 3, nothing happens. Send VP to Shore Up Support Pendleton is Harmonious: Rolled 2, nothing happens. Scandal Roll Has Integrity, so rolls are skipped. Speed-Gary Send VP to Shore Up Support Rolled 3, nothing happens. Scandal Roll Rolled 4, nothing happens. Action Phase 3 Cobb-Pendleton Incumbent Using the Power of Their Office Rolled 3, nothing happens. Send VP to Shore Up Support Pendleton is Harmonious: Rolled 1, nothing happens. Scandal Roll Has Integrity, so rolls are skipped. Speed-Gary Send VP to Shore Up Support Rolled 3, nothing happens. Scandal Roll Rolled 2, nothing happens. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Whigs -2 in this environment? Rip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Arkansas Progressive said: Whigs -2 in this environment? Rip Well, Party Pref is +2 Red so it's a net neutral. Still not great for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich_bin_Tyler Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1880 Presidential Election (383 EVs, 192 to win) In an election that was much closer than expected by both parties, Pres Howell Cobb wins 196 EVs to James Speed's 187. Four states were tied (IN, OR, RI, VT) and Speed won three of those. Speed was also able to narrowly win many states by less then 1% (IN, LC, ME, MN, NY, RI, WI). Luck was on Speed's side but not enough to win outright. Pres Cobb comes out as the winner but with concerns among the party about the down ballot impacts. Cobb also wins the popular vote 55%-43%-2%. Edited June 3, 2023 by Ich_bin_Tyler 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ich_bin_Tyler said: 1880 Presidential Election (383 EVs, 192 to win) In an election that was much closer than expected by both parties, Pres Howell Cobb wins 196 EVs to James Speed's 187. Four states were tied (IN, OR, RI, VT) and Speed won three of those. Speed was also able to narrowly win many states by less then 1% (IN, LC, ME, MN, NY, RI, WI). Luck was on Speed's side but not enough to win outright. Pres Cobb comes out as the seeming winner but with concerns among the party about the down ballot impacts. Winning without NY or PA too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 The pop vote figure includes the 4.7% increase to the irl electorate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Howell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Euri said: Howell Someone step on your foot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Someone step on your foot? Well yes, it was myself 6 hours ago because it was asleep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Fun fact: if Winfield Scott Hancock has won the 3 states that Cobb flipped from IRL (IN, OH, and OR), he would have won with 195 electoral votes to Arthur's 174 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Arkansas Progressive said: Fun fact: if Winfield Scott Hancock has won the 3 states that Cobb flipped from IRL (IN, OH, and OR), he would have won with 195 electoral votes to Arthur's 174 There's a lot more flips that just that and IN isn't a flip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: There's a lot more flips that just that and IN isn't a flip. ... big dummy forgor southern New England lol Edited June 3, 2023 by Arkansas Progressive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Arkansas Progressive said: he flipped those three from Arthur's IRL wins Arthur never stood for election at the top of the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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