MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Any rules on replacements like Henry Lee II? I'd say Lee is not eligible this round as he was (belatedly) a part of the current Congress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Time to appoint the delegates! @10centjimmy Note that you cannot reappoint delegates to consecutive terms (per the Articles of Confederation) -- so the folks who just served all have to go home. (Folks from the first congress are fine, but not from the most recent one.) Gross. Worst constitution ever. Here goes: Peyton Randolph, RandolphCPU Horatio Gates, HancockCPU Benjamin Harrison V, LeeCPU George Wythe, EllsworthCPU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: I'd say Lee is not eligible this round as he was (belatedly) a part of the current Congress. In that case, maybe delegates shouldn't be replaced if they die/retire/ are selected for jobs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 @vcczar Rules say a manipulative Governor can appoint themselves to the Continental Congress. In such a scenario, are they replaced as Governor? Or can they serve in both roles simultaneously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 1778 Delegates to the Second Continental Congress: CT:@10centjimmy William Samuel Johnston@10centjimmy Andrew Adams FranklinCPU Jonathan Trumbull Jr DE: FranklinCPU George Read PinckneyCPU Gunning Bedford Sr. GA: FranklinCPU James Jones PinckneyCPU George Mathews MA HancockCPU John Hancock (Blue) RandolphCPU James Sullivan (Blue) JayCPU Caleb Strong EllsworthCPU Robert Treat Paine MD HancockCPU John Archer (Blue) JayCPU Charles Carroll of Carrolton EllsworthCPU William Smallwood PinckneyCPU Daniel Carrol NC BooneCPU William Blount (Blue) BooneCPU John Penn (Blue) RandolphCPU Cornelius Harnett (Blue) NH JayCPU Simeon Olcott FranklinCPU Matthew Thornton NJ PinckneyCPU John Witherspoon JayCPU Philemon Dickins EllsworthCPU Frances Hopkinson NY LeeCPU William Floyd (Blue) LeeCPU Robert Yates (Blue) LeeCPU James Clinton (Blue) PA JayCPU William Moore FranklinCPU John Bayard FranklinCPU Thomas Willing EllsworthCPU George Ross RI PaineCPU William Ellery RandolphCPU John Collins (Blue) SC RandolphCPU Christopher Gadsden (Blue) LeeCPU Thomas Sumter PinckneyCPU John Rutledge VA RandolphCPU Peyton Randolph (Blue) HancockCPU Horatio Gates (Blue) LeeCPU Benjamin Harrison V (Blue) EllsworthCPU George Wythe @10centjimmy Can you please update CC and History pages when you have time? I'll work on player sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: 1778 Delegates to the Second Continental Congress: CT:@10centjimmy William Samuel Johnston@10centjimmy Andrew Adams FranklinCPU Jonathan Trumbull Jr DE: FranklinCPU George Read PinckneyCPU Gunning Bedford Sr. GA: FranklinCPU James Jones PinckneyCPU George Mathews MA HancockCPU John Hancock (Blue) RandolphCPU James Sullivan (Blue) JayCPU Caleb Strong EllsworthCPU Robert Treat Paine MD HancockCPU John Archer (Blue) JayCPU Charles Carroll of Carrolton EllsworthCPU William Smallwood PinckneyCPU Daniel Carrol NC BooneCPU William Blount (Blue) BooneCPU John Penn (Blue) RandolphCPU Cornelius Harnett (Blue) NH JayCPU Simeon Olcott FranklinCPU Matthew Thornton +1 Legislative NJ PinckneyCPU John Witherspoon +1 Legislative JayCPU Philemon Dickins EllsworthCPU Frances Hopkinson NY LeeCPU William Floyd (Blue) LeeCPU Robert Yates (Blue) +1 Legislative LeeCPU James Clinton (Blue) PA JayCPU William Moore FranklinCPU John Bayard +1 Legislative FranklinCPU Thomas Willing EllsworthCPU George Ross RI PaineCPU William Ellery RandolphCPU John Collins (Blue) SC RandolphCPU Christopher Gadsden (Blue) +1 Legislative LeeCPU Thomas Sumter PinckneyCPU John Rutledge VA RandolphCPU Peyton Randolph (Blue) HancockCPU Horatio Gates (Blue) LeeCPU Benjamin Harrison V (Blue) EllsworthCPU George Wythe @10centjimmy Can you please update CC and History pages when you have time? I'll work on player sheets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 46 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: In that case, maybe delegates shouldn't be replaced if they die/retire/ are selected for jobs? Maybe! @vcczar, should delegates be replaced if they die or get sent elsewhere (generals, ambassadors, etc?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, MrPotatoTed said: Maybe! @vcczar, should delegates be replaced if they die or get sent elsewhere (generals, ambassadors, etc?) Not until the next phase to "elect/appoint" them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, vcczar said: Not until the next phase to "elect/appoint" them @MrPotatoTedwith this in mind, can I swap out Peyton Randolph for Henry Lee II? (And maybe a re-roll *cough*) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: @MrPotatoTedwith this in mind, can I swap out Peyton Randolph for Henry Lee II? (And maybe a re-roll *cough*) Ha, we'll leave it as is for now, we'll just follow that new rule moving forward. (So I don't have to recalculate votes etc). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 Welcome to 1778-1780! Time for relocations, ideology shifts, politician conversions, kingmaker/protege pairings.@10centjimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Welcome to 1778-1780! Time for relocations, ideology shifts, politician conversions, kingmaker/protege pairings.@10centjimmy No Relocations Dudley Saltonstall mod > Cons John Thomas mod > cons No conversions No Kingmakers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) What a lovely playthrough. Edited August 1, 2022 by Cal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 FranklinCPU Benjamin Franklin takes his third and final protege: PA Delegate Thomas Willing. Willing gains +1 Command, Media expertise, Civil Rights interest, and Controversial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 RandolphCPU Ebenezer Hazard ditches crowded Pennsylvania for North Carolina. Fails. No ideology shifts.HancockCPU tries to convert RandolphCPU NC Gov. Richard Caswell. Success!RandolphCPU tries to convert HancockCPU NY Gov Samuel Adams. Narrowly fails! (Needed a 10 or lower, rolled an 11.) EllsworthCPU tries to convert PinckneyCPU Thomas McKean (who I think was stolen from Ellsworth in the first place.) Fails. PinckneyCPU tries to convert FranklinCPU Henry Middleton. Fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 CARDS!@10centjimmy: Moderates -- Law & Order, Military Industrial Complex EllsworthCPU: Moderates, Liberals -- Human Rights FranklinCPU: Moderates -- Law & Order PinckneyCPU: Conservatives, Traditionalists -- Nationalists, RW Activists -- Big Corporations JayCPU: Moderates -- Military Industrial Complex --- HancockCPU: Moderates -- Military-Industrial Complex RandolphCPU: Moderates -- Military-Industrial Complex BooneCPU: Traditionalists, RW Populists -- Expansionists, RW Activists -- Big Agriculture PaineCPU: Moderates, Liberals, Progressives, LW Populists -- Civil Rights, Reformists, LW Activists -- Human Rights LeeCPU: Conservatives -- Expansionists -- Big Agriculture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 Having the most delegates, EllsworthCPU names FranklinCPU (and Ben Franklin protege) Thomas Willing as our third President of the Continental Congress. FranklinCPU +50 Willing loses obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 DOMESTIC Chair: LeeCPU Robert Yates FranklinCPU John Bayard HancockCPU John Archer PinckneyCPU Gunning Bedford Sr PinckneyCPU Daniel Carroll EllsworthCPU George Ross JayCPU Simeon Olcott JayCPU William Moore PaineCPU William Ellery RandolphCPU Cornelius Harnett FOREIGN Chair: PinckneyCPU John Rutledge EllsworthCPU: Robert Treat Paine FranklinCPU: Jonathan Trumbull Sr FranklinCPU: James Jones HancockCPU: John Hancock JayCPU: Charles Carrol of Carrolton BooneCPU: William Blount EllsworthCPU: William Smallwood LeeCPU: Thomas Sumter ECONOMIC Chair: PinckneyCPU John Witherspoon@10centjimmy Andrew Adams JayCPU Caleb Strong JayCPU Philemon Dickinson LeeCPU Benjamin Harrison V EllsworthCPU Mathew Thornton EllsworthCPU Francis Hopkinson EllsworthCPU: George Wythe RandolphCPU: James Sullivana JUDICIAL Chair: @10centjimmy William Samuel Johnston LeeCPU: William Floyd LeeCPU: James Clinton RandolphCPU: John Collins RandolphCPU: Christopher Gadsden RandolphCPU: Peyton Randolph BooneCPU: John Penn HancockCPU: Horatio Gates PinckneyCPU: George Mathews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 6 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: FranklinCPU Benjamin Franklin takes his third and final protege: PA Delegate Thomas Willing. Willing gains +1 Command, Media expertise, Civil Rights interest, and Controversial. @Cal here's another thing with Kingmakers, the cpu doing 3 protégés over the course of 3 terms not all at once 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 5 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: Having the most delegates, EllsworthCPU names FranklinCPU (and Ben Franklin protege) Thomas Willing as our third President of the Continental Congress. FranklinCPU +50 Willing loses obscure. Does this knock him out of the protégé status and give the 1000 point bonuses? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, 10centjimmy said: Does this knock him out of the protégé status and give the 1000 point bonuses? Nope! President of the Continental Congress has a couple of the same powers as an actual President, but it's definitely not at the same level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: @Cal here's another thing with Kingmakers, the cpu doing 3 protégés over the course of 3 terms not all at once @vcczar A kingmaker with leadership can have up to three proteges per the rules -- do they take all three at once, or add a protege every two years until they've reached their active limit of three? The rules don't necessarily specify whether it's all at once or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 4 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: DOMESTIC Chair: LeeCPU Robert Yates Housing FranklinCPU John Bayard Energy HancockCPU John Archer Media PinckneyCPU Gunning Bedford Sr Environment PinckneyCPU Daniel Carroll Healthcare EllsworthCPU George Ross Healthcare JayCPU Simeon Olcott +1 Legislative, Education JayCPU William Moore Agriculture PaineCPU William Ellery Agriculture RandolphCPU Cornelius Harnett Healthcare FOREIGN Chair: PinckneyCPU John Rutledge Military EllsworthCPU: Robert Treat Paine Foreign FranklinCPU: Jonathan Trumbull Sr Naval FranklinCPU: James Jones Military HancockCPU: John Hancock Military JayCPU: Charles Carrol of Carrolton Military BooneCPU: William Blount Military EllsworthCPU: William Smallwood Military LeeCPU: Thomas Sumter Foreign ECONOMIC Chair: PinckneyCPU John Witherspoon gains Leadership, Transportation@10centjimmy Andrew Adams Welfare JayCPU Caleb Strong Business JayCPU Philemon Dickinson Transportation LeeCPU Benjamin Harrison V Welfare EllsworthCPU Mathew Thornton Labor EllsworthCPU Francis Hopkinson Labor EllsworthCPU: George Wythe Economics RandolphCPU: James Sullivan Trade JUDICIAL (ALL MEMBERS GET JUSTICE IF THEY DON'T ALREADY HAVE IT) Chair: @10centjimmy William Samuel Johnston +1 Legislative LeeCPU: William Floyd +1 Legislative LeeCPU: James Clinton RandolphCPU: John Collins RandolphCPU: Christopher Gadsden gains Leadership RandolphCPU: Peyton Randolph BooneCPU: John Penn HancockCPU: Horatio Gates PinckneyCPU: George Mathews PickneyCPU +100 LeeCPU +50@10centjimmy +50 Trait/expertise gains listed above. I haven't confirmed whether they're repeats or not -- will correct if they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 2 hours ago, MrPotatoTed said: @vcczar A kingmaker with leadership can have up to three proteges per the rules -- do they take all three at once, or add a protege every two years until they've reached their active limit of three? The rules don't necessarily specify whether it's all at once or not. Good question. Yeah maybe no more than one per turn. So one every 2 years. Add this to the suggested fixes. I’m going to get back to working on AMPU today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted August 1, 2022 Author Share Posted August 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, vcczar said: Good question. Yeah maybe no more than one per turn. So one every 2 years. Add this to the suggested fixes. I’m going to get back to working on AMPU today. @Rezi @Cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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