10centjimmy Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: 1956 Democratic National Convention @10centjimmy @jnewt @MrPotatoTed @ShortKing @Murrman104 Welcome to the 1956 DNC in Hartford, CT. We have 2 major candidates left in the race, Tallulah Bankhead and Rev Billy Graham along with minor candidate Rep Adlai Stevenson. First up is nomination speeches for the major candidates. @10centjimmy and @Murrman104 please pick a speaker. It can be any non-candidate who does not have incoherent. LA Gov Earl Long, a southerner committed to helping their fellow man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Murrman104 said: The good Reverends nominating Speech will be Given by the former Governer of Alabama, George C Wallace Rolls 1, speech backfires resulting in -1 momentum 47 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: LA Gov Earl Long, a southerner committed to helping their fellow man! Rolls 2, nothing happens 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 @Murrman104 @10centjimmy @MrPotatoTed @ShortKing @jnewt Ballot 1 Tallulah Bankhead- 951 Billy Graham- 282 Adlai Stevenson- 107 Robert Jackson- 26 John Kennedy- 20 Tallulah Bankhead overwhelmingly wins on the 1st ballot!!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Just now, ebrk85 said: @Murrman104 @10centjimmy @MrPotatoTed @ShortKing @jnewt Ballot 1 Tallulah Bankhead- 951 Billy Graham- 282 Adlai Stevenson- 107 Robert Jackson- 26 John Kennedy- 20 Tallulah Bankhead overwhelmingly wins on the 1st ballot!!! Margret Chase Smith and her best friend President Taft congratulates the Democrats on an interesting pick for their nominee. We're looking forward to a fun, spirited contest. Edited March 12, 2023 by pman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, pman said: Wow. Well then. Ok. Did I mention wow? wow. It all about momentum. 25% go to momentum (Bankhead). 25% to any Gov or Sens they control. Any remaining go to state ideo preference first. If that doesn't fit either candidate then they go to momentum (Bankhead). Graham had no chance as very few states prefer Trads. So most states (outside of the deep south who even then 25% went to Bankhead because of momentum) went 100% to Bankhead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 A more moderate candidate would have probably still lost due to momentum but it would have been much closer since there are many more states that prefer Mod or Lib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, ebrk85 said: It all about momentum. 25% go to momentum (Bankhead). 25% to any Gov or Sens they control. Any remaining go to state ideo preference first. If that doesn't fit either candidate then they go to momentum (Bankhead). Graham had no chance as very few states prefer Trads. So most states (outside of the deep south who even then 25% went to Bankhead because of momentum) went 100% to Bankhead. Yeah, I like Murr but part of me was glad to see Wallace mess up that speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just now, ebrk85 said: A more moderate candidate would have probably still lost due to momentum but it would have been much closer since there are many more states that prefer Mod or Lib. Yeah, it's a mod- lib era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnewt Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, ebrk85 said: A more moderate candidate would have probably still lost due to momentum but it would have been much closer since there are many more states that prefer Mod or Lib. Did Stevenson not win any delegates at the convention? Or just very few? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 @10centjimmy @MrPotatoTed Tallulah and the party leader get to nominate a vice president. Tallulah made a promise to nominate Harley Orrin Staggers Sr as VP. And the Party Leader is Staggers. So Harley Orrin Staggers Sr has been selected as the VP candidate. We have a Bankhead-Staggers ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, jnewt said: Did Stevenson not win any delegates at the convention? Or just very few? Minor candidates can not win any delegates on the first ballot. Outside of what he got in the primary. If this went to a 2nd ballot then its open season. And he would have gained quite a few I'd imagine as the only Lib candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: @Murrman104 @10centjimmy @MrPotatoTed @ShortKing @jnewt Ballot 1 Tallulah Bankhead- 951 Billy Graham- 282 Adlai Stevenson- 107 Robert Jackson- 26 John Kennedy- 20 Tallulah Bankhead overwhelmingly wins on the 1st ballot!!! https://youtu.be/aaXnmLDlJog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 Determining VP impact: If the VP comes from another faction, then +1. If the VP comes from the faction with the lowest ideological enthusiasm in the party, then that enthusiasm moves towards the party. YES, Moderates +1 Blue (now Red +2) If the ticket had a moderate, conservative, or liberal, then +1. YES If the ticket is at least 20 years of age apart, then +1 NO If at least one person on the ticket is older than 50, then +1 YES If at least one person on the ticket is younger than 60, then +1. YES If the ticket is an incumbent ticket, with the same pres and VP, then +1 NO If one member (but not both) on the ticket is marked “independent” or is currently not holding office, then +1 because voters like an outsider. NO (Both are not holding office) If one member on the ticket is from a Big State and one from a Small State, then +1. NO (Big and Medium) If the members on the tickets come from different regions, then +1. YES If the VP does NOT have obscure: Roll: 50% for a +1 and 50% for -1. 92/50 so -1 Total points: 4 (The VP with the most points will gain +1 party pref for their party) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 Platform Creation: @10centjimmy @MrPotatoTed Because Tallulah is pliable and the outgoing party leader (Staggers) is manipulative @MrPotatoTed Mr Staggers gets to pick the entire platform! The party leader must build a platform picking an economic legis, domestic legis, judicial legis, foreign/military policy legis, and presidential action that they promise to fulfill. Also, if there is an ongoing crisis, they must promise to resolve them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Does Staggers get a Wadsworth roll or an Insley roll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, pman said: Does Staggers get a Wadsworth roll or an Insley roll? He's not obscure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 While we wait for the platform, the faction with the most Govs gets to select the keynote speaker. That would be @Murrman104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 The Good Reverend will be the keynote speaker 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 @Bloot911 @WVProgressive @Rezi @Bushwa777 Please make sure we're contesting every down ballot race. I am not saying the Dems picked a weak ticket but lets just say they picked an interesting one:). If Bankhead gets some rough scandal rolls we could see party preference go hard towards us. Plus, with a LW Pop, some southern states might be in play. No more freebies like last midterm. One person in every race, lets do this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, pman said: @Bloot911 @WVProgressive @Rezi @Bushwa777 Please make sure we're contesting every down ballot race. I am not saying the Dems picked a weak ticket but lets just say they picked an interesting one:). If Bankhead gets some rough scandal rolls we could see party preference go hard towards us. Plus, with a LW Pop, some southern states might be in play. No more freebies like last midterm. One person in every race, lets do this! As a neutral party, I'll say it for you. It's a weak ticket. LW Pop and a female pre Civil Rights movement so that's an automatic -1. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: As a neutral party, I'll say it for you. It's a weak ticket. LW Pop and a female pre Civil Rights movement so that's an automatic -1. Plus, I hate nominating a controversial person against someone with integrity unless honest gov is tanked the way it is in 2016. My own perspective is that nominating a woman or an African American male in 1956 is great but the place to experiment is with the running mate position where there's no penalty. Throw in LW Pop and well, that's an interesting choice. Imagine how angry the Southern Dems would be at this ticket irl. It would split the Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, ebrk85 said: Platform Creation: @10centjimmy @MrPotatoTed Because Tallulah is pliable and the outgoing party leader (Staggers) is manipulative @MrPotatoTed Mr Staggers gets to pick the entire platform! The party leader must build a platform picking an economic legis, domestic legis, judicial legis, foreign/military policy legis, and presidential action that they promise to fulfill. Also, if there is an ongoing crisis, they must promise to resolve them. Given my time constraints, I’m actually happy to defer to @10centjimmy if he wants to choose the platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: Given my time constraints, I’m actually happy to defer to @10centjimmy if he wants to choose the platform. President Taft offers to do it. He will make you a great one lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euri Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 This Democratic ticket honestly seems like a godsend for Taft 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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