Rezi Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: 3: Obscure VP keeps obscure, gains lackey, gains pliable. No impact. [None of this is an option if the VP has leadership] That weakens him but I guess at least it's not disharmonious... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Platform Creation: @Bushwa777 The presidential nominee must build a platform picking an economic legis, domestic legis, judicial legis, foreign/military policy legis, and presidential action that they promise to fulfill. Also, if there is an ongoing crisis, they must promise to resolve them. The president nom will pick these platform promises unilaterally or they will select a faction to pick the promise in order to sure up support. If able to allow another faction to select a platform plank, the faction enthusiasm given the choice of a platform plank will have a 25% of improving that enthusiasm toward the party. Keynote Speaker As the faction with the most Govs, @WVProgressive gets to pick the Keynote Speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Rezi said: That weakens him but I guess at least it's not disharmonious... Yea I'd say it weakens him personally but won't hurt the ticket in the general like disharmonious did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Platform: Economic Leg: Regulate the internal affairs of Labor Unions Domestic Leg: Privatize Social Security Foreign/Military Leg: Create NASA Judicial Leg: 14-year period of Naturalization President Promise: Call on Congress to pass specific Economic Legislation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: Keynote Speaker As the faction with the most Govs, @WVProgressive gets to pick the Keynote Speaker. Anti-Communist Activist, and noted Orator Phyllis Schlafly will give the Keynote Address 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Rezi said: That weakens him but I guess at least it's not disharmonious... It doesn’t hurt him or the the ticket electorally ( though losing obscure helps in primaries if it got to that) but it does make him a weaker legislator which might help Taft because presumably he doesn’t want any VP interfere, especially after Wadsworth. Those obscure VP rolls are tough so I’ll take this one . Is that a good read on it Eric? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, pman said: It doesn’t hurt him or the the ticket electorally ( though losing obscure helps in primaries if it got to that) but it does make him a weaker legislator which might help Taft because presumably he doesn’t want any VP interfere, especially after Wadsworth. Those obscure VP rolls are tough so I’ll take this one . Is that a good read on it Eric? Did Wadsworth really interfere in the legislative process? He kinda just tanked the ticket and then bitched for 4 years 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Rezi said: Did Wadsworth really interfere in the legislative process? He kinda just tanked the ticket and then bitched for 4 years king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Nm Edited March 13, 2023 by pman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Bushwa777 said: Platform: Economic Leg: Regulate the internal affairs of Labor Unions Domestic Leg: Privatize Social Security Foreign/Military Leg: Create NASA Judicial Leg: 14-year period of Naturalization President Promise: Call on Congress to pass specific Economic Legislation Point by faction that platform would give: @10centjimmy -1600 @jnewt -800 @MrPotatoTed 100 @ShortKing 100 @Murrman104 600 @pman -150 @Bloot911 150 @Rezi 150 @WVProgressive 450 @Bushwa777 900 The party with the best platform will gain +1 party pref in the general. Here’s how to determine, which is best: Do the points that the party would gain by fulfilling the platform goals exceed those that the other party would gain? YES 1500 vs -1600 Does the score of the lowest scoring faction with the platform exceed the lowest scoring faction of the other party? YES -150 vs -1600 Does the president’s personal ideology score the most points (or tied)? NO (Not really close Cons and Trads outscore Moderates by a couple hundred points) Total Pts: 2 Democrats score more platform points and Party Pref moves +1 Blue (now Blue +1) 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Very interesting platforms based off their characters. The Bankhead-Staggers ticket headed by a LW Populist has a balanced platform. Plenty of things that will excite her base but also enough things in their to keep the right of the party in line. Meanwhile the Moderate President Taft goes hard right. Angering the left of his party. Also boo with that party pref shift, no 3rd party run. We could of had @Murrman104 challenge with Trads or RW Populists. Which would have nearly guaranteed a Taft reelection. He could have staked out the middle ground while the left and the right of the Democratic party split its votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortKing Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ebrk85 said: Very interesting platforms based off their characters. The Bankhead-Staggers ticket headed by a LW Populist has a balanced platform. Plenty of things that will excite her base but also enough things in their to keep the right of the party in line. Meanwhile the Moderate President Taft goes hard right. Angering the left of his party. Also boo with that party pref shift, no 3rd party run. We could of had @Murrman104 challenge with Trads or RW Populists. Which would have nearly guaranteed a Taft reelection. He could have staked out the middle ground while the left and the right of the Democratic party split its votes. why is our gm behaving like a Taft loyalist? rooting for Democrats in disarray? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: Point by faction that platform would give: @10centjimmy -1600 @jnewt -800 @MrPotatoTed 100 @ShortKing 100 @Murrman104 600 @pman -150 @Bloot911 150 @Rezi 150 @WVProgressive 450 @Bushwa777 900 The party with the best platform will gain +1 party pref in the general. Here’s how to determine, which is best: Do the points that the party would gain by fulfilling the platform goals exceed those that the other party would gain? YES 1500 vs -1600 Does the score of the lowest scoring faction with the platform exceed the lowest scoring faction of the other party? YES -150 vs -1600 Does the president’s personal ideology score the most points (or tied)? NO (Not really close Cons and Trads outscore Moderates by a couple hundred points) Total Pts: 2 Democrats score more platform points and Party Pref moves +1 Blue (now Blue +1) I forgot enthusiasm changes. For @pman losing points from the platform, Moderates -1 Red (now Red +1) For scoring the most points Conservatives +1 Red (now Red +2) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, ShortKing said: why is our gm behaving like a Taft loyalist? rooting for Democrats in disarray? I just wanted a 3rd party run! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I hope we can have a Graham 3rd party run at some point because im curious how a Charismatic 3rd party run turns out 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: Democrats score more platform points and Party Pref moves +1 Blue (now Blue +1) For @pman losing points from the platform, Moderates -1 Red (now Red +1) Also boo with that party pref shift, no 3rd party run. We could of had @Murrman104 challenge with Trads or RW Populists. Which would have nearly guaranteed a Taft reelection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, WVProgressive said: Anti-Communist Activist, and noted Orator Phyllis Schlafly will give the Keynote Address Has Orator and hits on roll to add +2 to their roll. Good thing because rolls 1+2=3 Nothing happens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 RNC Scoring: The presidential nominee gets 500 pts @Bushwa777, and the runner up gets 50 pts @Rezi VP nominee gets 100 pts @pman Bonus/Penalties: Runner-up @Rezi VP James Wadsworth rolls a 1 to get a -1 in future primaries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 2.9.4 Presidential Election - General Election @Bushwa777 @10centjimmy President Robert Taft/Edward Brooke vs Tallulah Bankhead/Harley Staggers Sr. (super realistic historical ticket for 1956 😛😅) We enter the general elections campaign with Party Pref at Blue +1 You can check out the meters for further effects. Due to events over the past 2 years Pres Taft will also receive: Taft +2 in LA Taft +1 in AK, CT, DE, IL, IN, MA, MD, ME, MI, NH, NJ, OH, PA, RI, SC, VA, VT, WI -1 Red in Great Plains, Mountains -2 Red in Deep South, Upper South, Southwest (some of those will compound or cancel each other out) Populists get a +1 in 1956 elections but Tallulah as a women gets a -1 to cancel these effects out. First up would be debate number 1. An incumbent president has the option of killing the debates or both nominees can agree to not have them. If the incumbent president kills the debate, then roll a 1-2 for a -1 to party pref and to each ideology enthusiasm attached to a same-party faction leader. There is no penalty if both agree not to have the debate. @10centjimmy @Bushwa777 Gentleman and women will we be having debates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 @ebrk85 Does the running mate who didn't lose obscure in the initial convention roll lose it if they win and he/she becomes VP? It's seems nonsensical that someone could be VP and be obscure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushwa777 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 40 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: 2.9.4 Presidential Election - General Election @Bushwa777 @10centjimmy President Robert Taft/Edward Brooke vs Tallulah Bankhead/Harley Staggers Sr. (super realistic historical ticket for 1956 😛😅) We enter the general elections campaign with Party Pref at Blue +1 You can check out the meters for further effects. Due to events over the past 2 years Pres Taft will also receive: Taft +2 in LA Taft +1 in AK, CT, DE, IL, IN, MA, MD, ME, MI, NH, NJ, OH, PA, RI, SC, VA, VT, WI -1 Red in Great Plains, Mountains -2 Red in Deep South, Upper South, Southwest (some of those will compound or cancel each other out) Populists get a +1 in 1956 elections but Tallulah as a women gets a -1 to cancel these effects out. First up would be debate number 1. An incumbent president has the option of killing the debates or both nominees can agree to not have them. If the incumbent president kills the debate, then roll a 1-2 for a -1 to party pref and to each ideology enthusiasm attached to a same-party faction leader. There is no penalty if both agree not to have the debate. @10centjimmy @Bushwa777 Gentleman and women will we be having debates? President Taft has nothing to hide and will be glad to debate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, pman said: @ebrk85 Does the running mate who didn't lose obscure in the initial convention roll lose it if they win and he/she becomes VP? It's seems nonsensical that someone could be VP and be obscure. Yes winning VP loses obscure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Plus, Brooke is a liberal from the most neglected ideology, shouldn't that have moved away from +3 blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Sure we can debate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I believe not as he's liberal but his faction isnt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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