ebrk85 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Should've been SecState for the Ambassador, but since it's also you, no harm no foul. And in 3.028, the rules state the Secretary fills the spot - no confirmation vote is explicitly mentioned @MrPotatoTed. However, that seems like an oversight so I would move him forward to a confirmation, but since he has 3 admin and integrity. He's auto-confirmed! I feel like they also changed who appoints all cabinet, military and ambassador vacancies to be the President now. But maybe that was just a suggestion and was never officially adopted into the rules. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: I feel like they also changed who appoints all cabinet, military and ambassador vacancies to be the President now. But maybe that was just a suggestion and was never officially adopted into the rules. It was changed. Looks like part of the old rules escaped notice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 26 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Dawes declines as he is currently holding an office. So these moves are void. Recommend picking an unemployed (and not previously employed) statesman. OK, well for Fed Chair, let's try Charles F Adams III, MA, ebrk, Mod, 3 Admin. If he declines, we go with Sherman Adams, NH, ebrk, Mod, 3 Admin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, ebrk85 said: I feel like they also changed who appoints all cabinet, military and ambassador vacancies to be the President now. But maybe that was just a suggestion and was never officially adopted into the rules. 1 minute ago, Willthescout7 said: It was changed. Looks like part of the old rules escaped notice If so, it should probably be explicitly stated in 2.3, 2.4, and/or 3.028. Because as written, it's the sec-state for ambassadors, sec-war for generals and admirals, and the pres for cabinet and cabinet-level officers. Ideally it'd be consolidated 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 The President may appoint members of his cabinet, cabinet-level positions, ambassadors, Generals, Admirals, and other notable individuals during this phase – though the exact offices that are available vary depending on which era you are in and which laws have passed. In 1772, none of these positions exist and each must be created by acts of Congress – as eras advance, more and more offices will become available to create by law and fill by Presidential appointment. It says this right at the start of 2.3.1. Got fixed at the start of the doc but missed in the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willthescout7 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Though TBH, I did prefer the old method but was outvoted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Should've been SecState for the Ambassador, but since it's also you, no harm no foul. And in 3.028, the rules state the Secretary fills the spot - no confirmation vote is explicitly mentioned @MrPotatoTed. However, that seems like an oversight so I would move him forward to a confirmation, but since he has 3 admin and integrity. He's auto-confirmed! Yep, oversight as we changed the approval process. Thanks for flagging! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Willthescout7 said: The President may appoint members of his cabinet, cabinet-level positions, ambassadors, Generals, Admirals, and other notable individuals during this phase – though the exact offices that are available vary depending on which era you are in and which laws have passed. In 1772, none of these positions exist and each must be created by acts of Congress – as eras advance, more and more offices will become available to create by law and fill by Presidential appointment. It says this right at the start of 2.3.1. Got fixed at the start of the doc but missed in the middle. @MrPotatoTed This is noted through the 2.3 phase. As the abrupt opening happened in 2.4, the rules state: If an office holder dies or retires, see 3.0.28 “How sudden vacancies are filled” in the miscellaneous rules document. So now we can see where the confusion comes from 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: OK, well for Fed Chair, let's try Charles F Adams III, MA, ebrk, Mod, 3 Admin. If he declines, we go with Sherman Adams, NH, ebrk, Mod, 3 Admin. This works. Charles Francis Adams III will finish out the term of George Humphrey (set to end in 1934). No change in enthusiasm or admin gains. @ebrk85 gains 50 points! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 2.4 General Events Diplomatic Gaffe A diplomatic gaffe that was both comical and insulting is all over the news. Our opponents are certainly taking advantage of this episode. @Murrman104 Ambassador to Russia/Soviet Union George M Humphrey is not a hit in the USSR. Relations with Russia -1 (now at 4, below neutral) Nationalist March A Nationalist March is taking place just outside the capital. This group also includes many nativists, espousing vitriol against foreign-born Americans, immigrants, religious minorities, and racial minorities. No domestic stability drop. @matthewyoung123 President Hoover can choose to A) condemn the protest, or B) ignore the protest. Hoover can also defer to AG Hyde. Improper SC Justice A Supreme Court Justice rarely makes the news, but considering the routinely confusing, inflammatory rhetoric used by this justice, one must question the justice's suitability for the court, if not their sanity. @matthewyoung123 Justice Edward T Sanford (controversial trait or judicial less than 3) faces an impeachment trial. (I'll get into those rules after we finish the General Events!) Major Earthquake An high-level richter scale earthquake has hit a major US city and its environs, causing all sorts of disaster. Aftershocks are still occuring as we speak. Should we use federal intervention to help out in the recovery? San Francisco, CA hit by large earthquake. @matthewyoung123 can choose to A) send aid, or B) refrain from aid. Hoover can also defer to Secretary of Interior New. Major Oil Spill President, a major oil spill is spreading off the coast of America. The oil company and volunteers are doing all they can, but the damage has been done. Planet Health -1 (now at 6) A Politician of Their Word Some voters may find something comforting in the growing predictability of Ernest King. However, this is going to make Ernest King easy prey when working with more wiley politicians. BlueRight's Ernest King gains predictable. Russian Trade Tension Trade tension has been gradually escalating and has now resulted in a diplomatic war of words between diplomats of both nations. Relations with Russia -1 (now at 3, hostile) Working on Judicial Skill One politician is becoming known as something of a judicial expert by fellow politicians. RedRight's Consuelo N Bailey gains 1 judicial (now has 2). Random SC Justice Gains Command In an unusual move, a Supreme Court Justice considers a presidential run, believing on the judge of the highest court can fulfill the Constitution well. @matthewyoung123 Associate Justice Harold Hitz Burton gains 1 command. -- As President Hoover has micromanager, only cabinet members with both efficient and egghead can make a suggestion. That is limited to Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon @Murrman104. Prior to Hoover's moves, action to @Murrman104 to provide input on Nationalist March and Major Earthquake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrk85 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 That was not a good round for our relations with Russia sheesh. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murrman104 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Hoover should ignore the march and help the eq victims 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just now, Murrman104 said: Hoover should ignore the march and help the eq victims Hoover will do both of those; ignore the march, help the CA earthquake victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: Hoover will do both of those; ignore the march, help the CA earthquake victims. Nationalist March For ignoring the march RW Pop enthusiasm stays the same, party preference stays the same. Major Earthquake @MrPotatoTed flagging that the major earthquake says '50% + Rev/Budget" if you provide aid, but this is probably supposed to lose money. President Hoover will get +1 in CA for next election (Not Red party, just Hoover) @ShortKing CA Gov CC Young gains +1 in next election for successfully handling the crisis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Major Earthquake @MrPotatoTed flagging that the major earthquake says '50% + Rev/Budget" if you provide aid, but this is probably supposed to lose money. @vcczar This actually happens a lot, I noticed half a dozen laws in the revolutionary era where it gains money when it should lose money or Vice verse. I assume it’s an issue in other eras too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: @vcczar This actually happens a lot, I noticed half a dozen laws in the revolutionary era where it gains money when it should lose money or Vice verse. I assume it’s an issue in other eras too. I mean, it could be that providing aid means the area that is impacted doesn't suffer as much and so Rev/Budget doesn't decrease?? I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) @MrPotatoTed also, for impeaching this SC Justice, do we follow the rules laid out in 3.05? Currently the rules state that the officeholder requires "controversial" while the gen event "Improper SC Justice" states it can be a justice with less than 3 judicial. Honestly, it feels odd to impeach the justice for having less than 3 judicial. If we can make a recommendation, I'd change the Gen Event to either lead to an impeachment of a justice with "controversial" and if that doesn't apply, then give a justice with judicial less than 3 the "controversial" trait. Then if the event fires again, at least then the impeachment makes sense. Also, we should include a note in 3.05 when an impeachment trial should take place. Ideally it should take place during the Legislative Phase, but if a Gen Event fires, does that mean the trial takes place immediately? I believe in the 2021 playtest, an impeachment trial happened immediately...but I could be wrong. Edited April 1, 2023 by 10centjimmy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, matthewyoung123 said: I mean, it could be that providing aid means the area that is impacted doesn't suffer as much and so Rev/Budget doesn't decrease?? I dunno. I think it's supposed to be like a FEMA/Emergency aid kind of thing, which would hit the budget level. Maybe there could be a prevention of the budget drop if the governor effectively manages the situation. (assuming the 50% roll is supposed to be a negative budget impact, of course) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: Nationalist March For ignoring the march RW Pop enthusiasm stays the same, party preference stays the same. Major Earthquake @MrPotatoTed flagging that the major earthquake says '50% + Rev/Budget" if you provide aid, but this is probably supposed to lose money. President Hoover will get +1 in CA for next election (Not Red party, just Hoover) @ShortKing CA Gov CC Young gains +1 in next election for successfully handling the crisis For listening to Secretary Mellon, Cons + 1 Red (already at max Red +3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, 10centjimmy said: @MrPotatoTed also, for impeaching this SC Justice, do we follow the rules laid out in 3.05? Currently the rules state that the officeholder requires "controversial" while the gen event "Improper SC Justice" states it can be a justice with less than 3 judicial. Honestly, it feels odd to impeach the justice for having less than 3 judicial. If we can make a recommendation, I'd change the Gen Event to either lead to an impeachment of a justice with "controversial" and if that doesn't apply, then give a justice with judicial less than 3 the "controversial" trait. Then if the event fires again, at least then the impeachment makes sense. Also, we should include a note in 3.05 when an impeachment trial should take place. Ideally it should take place during the Legislative Phase, but if a Gen Event fires, does that mean the trial takes place immediately? I believe in the 2021 playtest, an impeachment trial happened immediately...but I could be wrong. @vcczar wrote that and I haven’t tested it, so I’ll defer to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, MrPotatoTed said: @vcczar This actually happens a lot, I noticed half a dozen laws in the revolutionary era where it gains money when it should lose money or Vice verse. I assume it’s an issue in other eras too. I changed a few of them in the master, let me know if there's any I missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcczar Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, MrPotatoTed said: @vcczar wrote that and I haven’t tested it, so I’ll defer to him. Any changes that big will have to wait until after early release, if they're needed. No more big changes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 8 hours ago, vcczar said: Any changes that big will have to wait until after early release, if they're needed. No more big changes. Understood, I don't want to make a big change so I can figure my way around the general event, but just flagging that right now the impeachment trial rules don't appear to state when it should take place. If the developer has already built that into the game I just want to make sure that we're accurately testing the game as well as we can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPotatoTed Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 4 hours ago, 10centjimmy said: Understood, I don't want to make a big change so I can figure my way around the general event, but just flagging that right now the impeachment trial rules don't appear to state when it should take place. If the developer has already built that into the game I just want to make sure that we're accurately testing the game as well as we can. Fair point! I'd say to process it immediately. That's how all the other general events work, I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Alright, so according to 3.05 (ignoring it notes only a politician with "controversial " may be impeached) and the language of the Gen Event "Improper SC Justice," Justice Sanford goes directly to an impeachment trial - now to House Judicial Committee to determine articles of impeachment. I'm rolling for all committee members to determine what articles Justice Sanford will be charged with before we move to a committee vote. If I'm supposed to roll individuals for the various offenses, Articles are: Public Indecency x2 Obstruction of Justice x3 Bribery x2 Abuse of Power x6 Contempt of Congress x4 Treason Perjury Unethical Private Behavior Edited April 1, 2023 by 10centjimmy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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