Cal Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Rezi said: My interpretation is that Osgood doesn't officially become PL until the Leadership Emerges phase, since nothing is mentioned about it (iirc) in the rules. Let me make a few changes then, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rezi said: @10centjimmy @Hestia @WVProgressive @matthewyoung123 @jvikings1 @Arkansas Progressive @Cal @ConservativeElector2Time for Ideology Shifts, Relocations, Kingmakers, and Conversions! Kingmaker Asher Robbins (RI) will take Elisha R Potter under his wing. James Hillhouse CT will attempt to move to IN Joseph Kent MD will attempt to move to IN William Marks PA will attempt to move to AL Roger Griswols CT will attempt to move to ME Henry Latimer Mod -> Cons Luther Martin Mod -> Cons Edited August 22, 2022 by ConservativeElector2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Progressive Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Rezi said: @10centjimmy @Hestia @WVProgressive @matthewyoung123 @jvikings1 @Arkansas Progressive @Cal @ConservativeElector2Time for Ideology Shifts, Relocations, Kingmakers, and Conversions! No ideology shifts Nathan Appleton: MA to ME Thomas Rice: MA to ME Jeremiah Nelson: MA to MO No Kingmakers No Conversions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10centjimmy Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 11 hours ago, Rezi said: @10centjimmy @Hestia @WVProgressive @matthewyoung123 @jvikings1 @Arkansas Progressive @Cal @ConservativeElector2Time for Ideology Shifts, Relocations, Kingmakers, and Conversions! Prog -> Lib Jonathan Harvey Thomas Morris Lib -> Mod Nathan Sanford Samuel Dinsmore Relocations: Jonathan Harvey to MS (alt state) Gabriel Hiester from PA to MS (overpopulation) William van Wyck from NY to ME (overpopulation) William Few from NY to ME (overpopulation) Kingmaker: DeWitt Clinton takes on Obadiah German No conversions since Burr quit and I have no faction leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hestia Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Career Track Israel Pickens from NC to AL (alternate state) Nothing else (no kingmaker, no conversions, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Cal said: Let me make a few changes then, thanks! Edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I have no current faction leader either so I can't do conversions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Flipflopper penalties are lost by @CalPhilip Barton Key, BlooCPU Thomas Sumter Jr, @10centjimmyPaul Brigham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just need @WVProgressive, I believe. Who also cant do conversions, as Daniel Hiester is retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Shifts: Daniel Heister II (Mod->Lib) Joes Bloomfield moves from Cons to Mod Theodosia Burr-Alston goes from Lib to Prog William Temple Franklin goes from Mod to Lib Relocation: Daniel Heister II moves from Pennsylvania to Indiana Perry Smith moves from CT to MS Peter Ganesvoort moves from NY to MS James Linn moves from NJ to Alabama George Wolf moves from PA to Indiana William Jones moves from PA to AL Theodosia Burr-Alston moves from South Carolina to Indiana Kingmakers: Tom Stone takes Gabriel Christie as his protege 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 RedCPU: Relocate: No Moves Ideology: No shifts. Conversions: Winthrop Sargent Attempts to convert Henry Knox @Cal(Pliable) Kingmakers: No action BlooCPU: Relocate: No Moves Ideology: Walter Bowie Cons -> Mod William Butler Cons -> Mod William Lowndes Cons -> Mod John Smith (NY) Cons -> Mod Joseph Desha Cons -> Mod Conversions: No Faction Leader. Kingmakers: Kingmaker Mathias Corwin -> William Helms (NJ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 14 hours ago, matthewyoung123 said: Ideology Shifts- John Taylor of VA from RW Pop->Trad Fails Benjamin Taliaferro of GA from Lib->Mod Fails, gains pliable Samuel Bryan of PA from Prog->Lib Fails, gains pliable Benjamin Ruggles of OH from Cons->Mod Succeeds Relocations- George Rogers Clark from KY->IN (Alternate State) Succeeds Edward Philip Livingston attempts to move from overpopulated NY to underpopulated IN Fails Benjamin Gorham attempts to move from overpopulated MA to underpopulated AL Fails Kingmakers- Philip Reed of MD takes on James Wilkinson as a protégé. Wilkinson gains Media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewyoung123 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 @ReziOn the topic of Kingmakers, I still have Madison as one in the kingmaker sheet, but he has since retired. So, I should remove his protégé, correct? Does the protégé get any traits for coming off the kingmaker pairing? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, matthewyoung123 said: @ReziOn the topic of Kingmakers, I still have Madison as one in the kingmaker sheet, but he has since retired. So, I should remove his protégé, correct? Does the protégé get any traits for coming off the kingmaker pairing? Thanks! Removal, yes. I don’t think the protege gets any more traits but will have to recheck the rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 1:42 PM, jvikings1 said: Isaac Bates MA -> ME Fails William Richardson Davie NC -> KY Succeeds. Conversions: James Wadsworth Fails William Bainbridge Fails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 1:53 PM, Cal said: Ideology Shifts Benedict Arnold II M --> C (Faction Leader ideology, faction leader has Leadership and Iron Fist). Succeeds, gains flipflopper and pliable. Relocations Leverett Saltonstall I MA --> ME (overpopulated, same region) Succeeds Francis Baylies MA --> ME (overpopulated, same region) Succeeds William Jackson MA --> AL (overpopulated) Succeeds William Baylies MA --> AL (overpopulated) Fails James Lloyd (MA) MA --> MS (overpopulated) Fails Benjamin Lincoln MA --> MS (overpopulated) Succeeds, gains carpetbagger penalty. Philip Barton Key MD --> MS (overpopulated) Fails Benjamin Edwards MD --> AL (overpopulated) Fails William Tilghman PA --> IN (overpopulated) Fails Henry Black PA --> IN (overpopulated) Succeeds Richard Bland Lee VA --> AL (overpopulated). Succeeds Conversions David Hough will attempt to convert DakotaCPU Daniel Webster (conservative). Hough has Debater and Manipulative, so his chance of conversion increases to 43%. Fails. As he has Iron Fist, he will also target @jvikings1 Career Track David Porter (43%) (Pliable) Fails and DakotaCPU William Wilkins (Conservative) (43%). Fails, barely. Needed a 43, got a 44. As he is efficient, he gets one more attempt and will therefore also target DakotaCPU Career Track Charles Cutts (conservative) (43%). Fails. Finally, Hough will get two interparty attempts due to being an efficient party leader, both with a 43% chance of success as well. His first target is @matthewyoung123 DeWitt Clinton (Pliable) Fails and whoever now controls WVP's William Temple Franklin (Pliable). Succeeds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 1:57 PM, Cal said: As far as Kingmaker goes, if Richard Bland Lee is successful in his relocation, just have him take on the youngest guy who also succeeded as his protege. Lee takes on William Jackson, who gains Agriculture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 23 hours ago, ConservativeElector2 said: Kingmaker Asher Robbins (RI) will take Elisha R Potter under his wing. Potter gains Labor. James Hillhouse CT will attempt to move to IN Fails Joseph Kent MD will attempt to move to IN Fails William Marks PA will attempt to move to AL Succeeds Roger Griswols CT will attempt to move to ME Fails Henry Latimer Mod -> Cons Succeeds Luther Martin Mod -> Cons Fails, gains flipflopper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 23 hours ago, Arkansas Progressive said: No ideology shifts Nathan Appleton: MA to ME Succeeds Thomas Rice: MA to ME Succeeds Jeremiah Nelson: MA to MO We don't own Missouri. No Kingmakers No Conversions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 3:07 PM, 10centjimmy said: Prog -> Lib Jonathan Harvey Fails, gains flipflopper Thomas Morris Fails Lib -> Mod Nathan Sanford Fails, gains flipflopper and pliable. Samuel Dinsmore Fails Relocations: Jonathan Harvey to MS (alt state) Succeeds Gabriel Hiester from PA to MS (overpopulation) Fails William van Wyck from NY to ME (overpopulation) Succeeds William Few from NY to ME (overpopulation) Fails Kingmaker: DeWitt Clinton takes on Obadiah German German gains Technology, Reformist, and Efficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 3:12 PM, Hestia said: Career Track Israel Pickens from NC to AL (alternate state) Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 20 hours ago, WVProgressive said: Shifts: Daniel Heister II (Mod->Lib) Fails, gains flipflopper and pliable Joes Bloomfield moves from Cons to Mod Fails, gains pliable. Theodosia Burr-Alston goes from Lib to Prog Succeeds, gains flipflopper Relocation: Daniel Heister II moves from Pennsylvania to Indiana Fails Perry Smith moves from CT to MS Fails Peter Ganesvoort moves from NY to MS Succeeds James Linn moves from NJ to Alabama Fails George Wolf moves from PA to Indiana Fails William Jones moves from PA to AL Fails Theodosia Burr-Alston moves from South Carolina to Indiana Fails Kingmakers: Tom Stone takes Gabriel Christie as his protege Ineligible. Stone already has a protege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rezi said: RedCPU: Conversions: Winthrop Sargent Attempts to convert Henry Knox @Cal(Pliable) Fails BlooCPU: Ideology: Walter Bowie Cons -> Mod Fails William Butler Cons -> Mod Succeeds, gains flipflopper William Lowndes Cons -> Mod Fails John Smith (NY) Cons -> Mod Fails, gains flipflopper Joseph Desha Cons -> Mod Succeeds, gains flipflopper and pliable. Kingmakers: Kingmaker Mathias Corwin -> William Helms (NJ) Helms makes no gains Edited August 23, 2022 by Rezi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Faction Personalities 1808-1810 @matthewyoung123: Moderates -- Expansionists -- Law & Order (Loses Wall Street). @Hestia: Conservatives, Traditionalists, RW Populists -- Expansionists, RW Activists -- Big Agriculture (Loses Wall Street). BlooCPU: Conservatives, Traditionalists -- Expansionists -- Military-Industrial (Loses Wall Street). @WVProgressive: Moderates -- Expansionists -- Wall Street, Military Industrial (Loses Globalists). @10centjimmy: Liberals, Progressives, LW Populists -- Reformists -- Big Agriculture, Public Education (Loses Wall Street). @jvikings1: Liberals -- Civil Rights -- Human Rights, Military-Industrial (Gains Liberals, loses Moderates and Law & Order) RedCPU: Moderates -- Expansionists -- Free Trade, Big Corporations (Gains Expansionists, Loses Law & Order). @Arkansas Progressive: Moderates -- Expansionists -- Law & Order (No change). @Cal: Conservatives -- Theocrats -- Globalists, Law & Order (Gains Globalists). @ConservativeElector2: Conservatives -- Nationalists -- Law & Order (No change). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 CONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP CHOSEN Action to @matthewyoung123 @Hestia @WVProgressive @10centjimmy @ConservativeElector2 @jvikings1 @Arkansas Progressiveto choose Senate Leadership. Senate Majority Leader: Senate Majority Whip: Senate Minority Leader: Senate Minority Whip: Action to @Hestia @WVProgressive @jvikings1 @Arkansas Progressive @Cal @ConservativeElector2 to choose House Leadership. Speaker: House Majority Leader: House Majority Whip: House Minority Leader: House Minority Whip: Please note the requirements in the rules for each position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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