The Blood Posted June 25, 2023 Author Share Posted June 25, 2023 State of the Race - March 8th, 2022 Democrats: Cuomo - 18% (-2) @Rezi Williams - 15% (-1) @Rodja Hochul - 13% (-1) @Hestia Suozzi - 9% (-1) @ConservativeElector2 RFK Jr. - 4% (-3) @Fbarbarossa Prince - 1% @Cenzonico Undecided - 40% (+8) (lol) Republicans: Zeldin - 28% (-1) @Kitten Trump Jr. - 22% (+3) @WVProgressive Pataki - 13% (-1) @Pringles Santos - 5% (-1) @Cal Sliwa - 3% (-1) @Sean F Kennedy Undecided - 29% (+1) State Party Conventions: The New York Republican and Democratic Parties are preparing for their conventions, during which they will dole out endorsements for statewide races, most importantly, the gubernatorial election. The Democratic and Republican State Committees will be voting to decide these endorsements, with 443 Democratic Committee members and 300 GOP Committee members. And while a clear favorite has emerged on the Republican side, the Democratic Convention may be a brutal showdown between two rivals in the establishment lane. And for those gubernatorial candidates unlikely to win, it's still important to contest the conventions, as a 25% showing is required for automatic primary ballot access, avoiding the hassle of collecting 15,000 signatures, and an overperformance could provide valuable media attention. Here's the situation for both sides heading into the conventions: Democrats: Gathering in Manhattan, New York Democrats are torn asunder, as the convention used as mere pageantry for Cuomo in prior years will now witness an epic struggle for party control. Governor Cuomo, embattled as ever, still holds significant sway over party machinery. However, the flight of establishment Democrats to Lt. Governor Hochul leaves Andrew on the defensive, risking a massive blow to his campaign if the state party finally abandons his incumbency for a challenger. Meanwhile, Williams and Suozzi can depend on the most progressive and most centrist Committee members respectively, with little hope for victory, but rather for an overperformance landing them above 25%. RFK Jr. and Paperboy Prince's goal may be to receive any votes at all. Republicans: Meeting in Long Island, the GOP convention may end as a triumphant coronation for Lee Zeldin, assuming the event avoids any surprises. Because while Zeldin is almost certain to win, with a controlling lead among Committee members and a tight grip on establishment support, a surprising underperformance from him or overperformance from another candidate could rock the boat. The remaining centrists and Never Trumpers in the state party are firmly behind Pataki, who maintains limited influence in the party machinery from his time as Governor, and Donald Trump Jr. could cement his position as Zeldin's main challenger with a surprise showing, even as his initial support among Committee members is weak. Santos and Sliwa, meanwhile, could gain from an unexpectedly strong performance, though both have minimal support heading into the event. Convention Events: This turn, candidates can DM me three special convention actions. The first is your convention address, which can just be a sentence describing what you'll say on stage, pretty simple. Second is your direct appeal to Committee members. Essentially, a description of how you will pitch yourself as best for your party to these dedicated party officers and activists. And finally, send in a "dirty trick" your candidate will perform, which can include backroom policy concessions, attempts to change the convention rules, and even deals with other candidates, so long as those other candidates are consenting, obviously. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodja Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 minute ago, The Blood said: State of the Race - March 8th, 2022 Democrats: Cuomo - 18% (-2) @Rezi Williams - 15% (-1) @Rodja Hochul - 13% (-1) @Hestia Suozzi - 9% (-1) @ConservativeElector2 RFK Jr. - 4% (-3) @Fbarbarossa Prince - 1% @Cenzonico Undecided - 40% (+8) (lol) Republicans: Zeldin - 28% (-1) @Kitten Trump Jr. - 22% (+3) @WVProgressive Pataki - 13% (-1) @Pringles Santos - 5% (-1) @Cal Sliwa - 3% (-1) @Sean F Kennedy Undecided - 29% (+1) State Party Conventions: The New York Republican and Democratic Parties are preparing for their conventions, during which they will dole out endorsements for statewide races, most importantly, the gubernatorial election. The Democratic and Republican State Committees will be voting to decide these endorsements, with 443 Democratic Committee members and 300 GOP Committee members. And while a clear favorite has emerged on the Republican side, the Democratic Convention may be a brutal showdown between two rivals in the establishment lane. And for those gubernatorial candidates unlikely to win, it's still important to contest the conventions, as a 25% showing is required for automatic primary ballot access, avoiding the hassle of collecting 15,000 signatures, and an overperformance could provide valuable media attention. Here's the situation for both sides heading into the conventions: Democrats: Gathering in Manhattan, New York Democrats are torn asunder, as the convention used as mere pageantry for Cuomo in prior years will now witness an epic struggle for party control. Governor Cuomo, embattled as ever, still holds significant sway over party machinery. However, the flight of establishment Democrats to Lt. Governor Hochul leaves Andrew on the defensive, risking a massive blow to his campaign if the state party finally abandons his incumbency for a challenger. Meanwhile, Williams and Suozzi can depend on the most progressive and most centrist Committee members respectively, with little hope for victory, but rather for an overperformance landing them above 25%. RFK Jr. and Paperboy Prince's goal may be to receive any votes at all. Republicans: Meeting in Long Island, the GOP convention may end as a triumphant coronation for Lee Zeldin, assuming the event avoids any surprises. Because while Zeldin is almost certain to win, with a controlling lead among Committee members and a tight grip on establishment support, a surprising underperformance from him or overperformance from another candidate could rock the boat. The remaining centrists and Never Trumpers in the state party are firmly behind Pataki, who maintains limited influence in the party machinery from his time as Governor, and Donald Trump Jr. could cement his position as Zeldin's main challenger with a surprise showing, even as his initial support among Committee members is weak. Santos and Sliwa, meanwhile, could gain from an unexpectedly strong performance, though both have minimal support heading into the event. Convention Events: This turn, candidates can DM me three special convention actions. The first is your convention address, which can just be a sentence describing what you'll say on stage, pretty simple. Second is your direct appeal to Committee members. Essentially, a description of how you will pitch yourself as best for your party to these dedicated party officers and activists. And finally, send in a "dirty trick" your candidate will perform, which can include backroom policy concessions, attempts to change the convention rules, and even deals with other candidates, so long as those other candidates are consenting, obviously. Thank you! Do we also get normal events or just convention ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 25, 2023 Author Share Posted June 25, 2023 Just now, Rodja said: Do we also get normal events or just convention ones? Normal as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean F Kennedy Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1. Sliwa will campaign in NYC talking the upticking crime epidemic in New York, saying he will stomp it out. 2. Sliwa will visit the home of Former President Theodore Roosevelt saying that Roosevelt and Rockefeller Republicans are the best hope to topple Andrew “handsy” Cuomo. 3. Sliwa will seek the endorsement from Theodore Roosevelt V, the great grandson of the former President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodja Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1.Williams will seek the endorsement of Sen.Elizabeth Warren,if she accepts they will tour the state together promoting their joint commitment to "big structural change" in American politics. 2.Williams will hold a listening tour with public school teachers across the state. 3.Williams will seek the endorsement from AOC holding a mega rally with her in NYC if she accepts.If not,Williams will hold a rally focused on workers rights in NYC alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVProgressive Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Don Jr. will approach Jimmy McMillan, and the Rent is Too Damn High Party, offering volunteers to gather signatures petitioning for ballot access, and promising to only use his own money in funding the campaign if they would endorse him for governor. Don Jr. will also approach the New York Right to Life party with a similar offer. Trump will ask his father to campaign alongside him to excite the MAGA base in upstate New York. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConservativeElector2 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 1. Suozzi focuses on the Asian American turnout by meeting with community leaders in Flushing, Bensonhurst and Elmhurst. He also plans on asking Rep. Grace Meng for an endorsement to strengthen his ties with the progressive wing. 2. Suozzi addresses voters at a rally in Buffalo: "While I really like Kathy and consider her to be the only other non-radical in the Democratic primary, recent events have made it more and more clear, that she's not the right person to prevent us from Governor Doesn't-know-where-his-hands-belong winning another term." 3. While touring Long Island Souzzi attacks the GOP and warns of Trump Jr. winning the primary. "Together with Governor Cuomo on the ballot an election between Cuomo and Trump Jr. could throw the State of NY into turmoil, because both of them must be stopped at all costs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenzonico Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1. Paperboy "Love" Prince is not deterred from their online efforts. This time they will attempt to ratio every candidate in the Republican primary for governor. They enlist the Yang Gang specifically to spread the word. 2. Paperboy "Love" Prince treks down to more familiar territory for them, New York City. They campaign throughout Brooklyn, going to train stations, the local coffee shop, bodegas, etc. 3.PLP asks the Working Families Party for an endorsement, saying that they are the candidate most suited to fight for progressive causes. An endorsement could also come in handy later on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 1. Zeldin will attack Trump Jr. in television ads that will talk about his inexperienced and radical views he has 2. Zeldin will campaign throughout New York state where he will meet voters and hold town halls 3. Zeldin will try to gain the endorsement of congressional Republican Elise Stefanik once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share Posted June 27, 2023 @Rezi @Hestia @Fbarbarossa @Pringles @Cal Also @Kitten for convention actions and @Dobs to respond to Santos' inspired fundraising tactic last turn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fbarbarossa Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 RFK Jr will air a TV ad of himself doing shirtless pushups. RFK Jr will join his supporters in a door knocking event, in an attempt to connect with voters on the doorstep and generate potentially social media worthy moments. He will be shirtless for this. Finally, RFK Jr will hold a rally in upstate New York. Shirtless. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten Everyone missing convention actions and/or regular events. I'd like to stay on schedule and finish this turn tomorrow (latest Thursday), so please send in everything if you can, thanks! Also @Dobs for Santos' campaign finance trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 10 hours ago, The Blood said: @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten Everyone missing convention actions and/or regular events. I'd like to stay on schedule and finish this turn tomorrow (latest Thursday), so please send in everything if you can, thanks! Also @Dobs for Santos' campaign finance trouble. Mine will be in later today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezi Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Andrew Cuomo makes a campaign promise to legalize commercial gambling in the state of New York. Andrew Cuomo requests an endorsement from Kathy Hochul's husband and former US Attorney Bill Hochul. Andrew Cuomo petitions the Working Families Party for general election ballot access on their line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobs Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/25/2023 at 5:44 PM, The Blood said: Additionally, the courts are notified of Santos' fund for potential campaign finance violations. @Dobs (Chief Judge DiFiore may react with the Court of Appeals next turn, I only planned on sending it this way if Santos rolled below a 3). The New York Court of Appeals, having reached its decision, dismisses criminal charges for lack of a complaining witness. It seems no one was stupid enough to buy into the scheme, except for those that were too stupid to realize they were being scammed. This has rendered any possible criminal case that the state might refer to be without standing for lack of real damages. Any campaign finance violation has been remanded to Nassau County Civil Court, a body that is empowered to issue a fine of up to $25,000 on civil matters. In this matter, the Court of Appeals has recommended a verbal warning and fine not to exceed $5,000. It is so ordered. - Chief Judge Janet DiFiore, New York State Court of Appeals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1. Santos, after his latest scheme not going WELL but not particularly blowing up, decides that for at least one action he will be a squeaky clean politician. Just kidding. It's just incentive to keep it up. One of Santos's most reliable criminal supporters has got some great blackmail on Raghu Sundaram, the President of the New York University Stern School of Business. Now, with the fallout of the Santos Together Pledge, Santos needs to not only restore the business community's faith in his campaign, but bolster it. Therefore, he will be blackmailing Sundaram for a full throttled endorsement of his campaign and why he thinks taking the pledge is a good idea. After all, it was only "most" who declined to buy in to the pledge, and Chief Judge DiFore has made it clear that the only issue was if someone was stupid enough to buy into it as a "scheme." The information is fully open to the public and offer available to all still, and hopefully, Sundaram can convince others that it's a genuinely good investment on the money. Further, Santos will also demand that Sundaram provide him with a research article to publish under his own name, to bolster his own academic credentials. After all, no one will bother to verify his background if he's so obviously a professional, right? 2. Now that Santos has a little bit of money to throw around, he means business. There's gotta be at least someone higher up in the NYPD that is speaks the universal language of dollar signs. Once Santos finds that person, he'll explain that what he wants is for the public to believe that later that night, a reluctant Zeldin supporter set fire to Santos's home in an effort to force the candidate out of the primary, either through fear, incapacitation, or death. Further, Santos needs the NYPD to note that the Zeldin supporter had been coaxed into doing so by Zeldin himself, who told him it was a necessary deed for Zeldin to take the nomination. 3. Finally, after a fun week of criminal activity, Santos will take to Twitter to declare that the Republican Party needs a new face in New York, and that they need a bridge between the GOP of decades past, such as Pataki, and radical candidates like Zeldin. (Also of note but not an action per se: One of Santos's campaign staffers dropped a little something off with Chief Judge DiFiore's clerk, Ed Mangini.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pringles Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1. Pataki hits the streets of NYC one more, meeting and greeting his way through every vote. 2. Pataki will request the endorsement of Representative Nicole Malliotakis. 3. Pataki will ask that his endorser, Steve Cohen host a major fundraiser for his campaign. Inviting local party establishment and schmoozing them for checks and endorsements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Proxy Events for Hochul (Hestia's on vacation, permission was given) 1. Hochul will campaign in Buffalo, attempting to regain ground on her home turf by presenting herself as an outsider to Albany and New York City, a true champion for western New York untainted by the "corruption and gridlock" infesting the state government. 2. While the party lost its ballot access in 2018, Hochul will publicly reach out to the remnants of the Women's Equality Party, hoping to hijack a former Cuomo front and use it to continue slamming the Governor over his sexual harassment allegations. 3. Firing back at Cuomo's appeals to her husband, Hochul will seek the support of Andrew's mother, sitting down with the nonagenarian Matilda Cuomo, and even learning some Sicilian recipes from the second-generation immigrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 GOP Convention Candidate Rolls 10, 10, 2: +7 - Trump Jr. As the GOP convention opened, Donald Trump Jr. walked in ready to lead a shockingly strong campaign for party support. Starting with a beautifully written, magnificently delivered address slamming the Democrats on everything from the "2020 Deep State fraud" to "Planned Parenthood's genocide," Jr. would then march into the backrooms of the convention, letting his charisma and conservative credentials shine as he racked up support from right-wing committee members. The only sore spot for Donald was an ill-fated series of threats regarding his plans should he lose the primary, leaving a sore taste in the mouths of party loyalists. However, overall, a stunning performance from Trump Jr. ahead of the convention vote. 6, 6, 5: +2 - Pataki. Pataki, while not stunning the convention, mosied along with a fair performance. First flexing his experience and electability in a satisfactory though not brilliant address, Pataki would then firm up his support among committee members with a solid appeal based on his electability and strong stance on crime. Rumors would also come out of the convention that Pataki flew in Steve Cohen among others to lock out Trump Jr. from wheeling and dealing at the event, though this amounted to nothing in the end. Overall, a solid performance. 7, 10, 1: +2 - Santos. George Santos' convention performance can only be described as mixed, though he ultimately landed on his feet. He began strong, with an address centered on New York's economy and GOP electability and followed this up with a brilliant appeal to committee members, promising to build a unique winning coalition with his youth, background, and policies. However, just when Santos seemed to be building up to a surprise performance, he put forward a rule change raising the bar for party endorsement to 75%, leading committee members to believe George was attempting to deadlock the convention and weaken the party for his own gain, and his proposal was voted down decisively. Overall, a rollercoaster convention campaign leaving Santos better off than when the event began. 7, 10, 1: +2 - Sliwa. Curtis, in a strikingly similar fashion to Santos, delivered a mixed-yet-beneficial campaign at the GOP convention. Sliwa began with a strong convention address attacking both Cuomo and Trump Jr., and then moved on to an amazing appeal to committee members, making it clear that he is the only candidate capable of tackling both crime and corruption in New York. However, Sliwa spectacularly stumbled in attempting to convince the convention that it should endorse him for Lt. Governor should it shun his gubernatorial bid, with committee members from all camps now mocking Curtis as a vanity candidate looking to worm his way into relevancy. Still, overall, a good performance for Sliwa. 1, 1, 6: -9 - Zeldin. The GOP frontrunner, perhaps overconfident in himself, crashed into the Republican convention in a terrible display of incompetence and folly. Lee began with a disastrous convention address, sweating profusely as he dropped his notecards and froze while discussing his tax plan, only able to utter, "Taxes, a- am I right?" Then, though he meant to seek out undecided committee members, Zeldin would stumble right into Donald Trump Jr.'s supporters, leading to a heated argument with them on the convention floor ending in Zeldin screaming, "Do you know who I am!!!???" before being punched in the face and retreating from the engagement. Finally, Zeldin's sole success was in promising committee members his endorsement of their pick for the Lt. Governor's race and to needle his abortion position to the right, though these were minor wins. Overall, a terrible convention campaign for Zeldin. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa GOP Convention results forthcoming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 GOP Convention Results - First Round 300 committee members total - 151 needed to win Lee Zeldin - 132 committee members (44.00%) George Pataki - 61 committee members (20.33%) Donald Trump Jr. - 60 committee members (20.00%) George Santos - 26 committee members (8.67%) Curtis Sliwa - 21 committee members (7.00%) Result: The first round of the GOP convention is inconclusive, with Lee Zeldin's dramatic fall preventing him from securing the nomination, and Donald Trump Jr.'s surprising rise allowing him to nearly leapfrog Pataki into second place. Further balloting with follow. Round 2 Candidate Rolls (d100) Zeldin - 50 Pataki - 63 Trump Jr. - 81 Santos - 40 Sliwa - 96 GOP Convention Results - Second Round 300 committee members total - 151 needed to win Lee Zeldin - 107 committee members (35.67%) Donald Trump Jr. - 75 committee members (25.00%) George Pataki - 68 committee members (22.67%) Curtis Sliwa - 34 committee members (11.33%) George Santos - 16 committee members (5.33%) Result: The second round did little to clear up the contest, as Zeldin declined from a mediocre campaign and most of his opponents gained ground, most notably Sliwa with a strong last-minute appeal to committee members. Round 3 Candidate Rolls Zeldin - 18 Trump Jr. - 53 Pataki - 91 Sliwa - 19 Santos - 42 GOP Convention Results - Third Round 300 committee members total - 151 needed to win George Pataki - 110 committee members (36.67%) Donald Trump Jr. - 91 committee members (30.34%) Lee Zeldin - 70 committee members (23.33%) Curtis Sliwa - 19 committee members (6.33%) George Santos - 10 committee members (3.33%) Result: The convention has descended into chaos, with Zeldin's support collapsing as the establishment clings to Pataki, while Trump Jr. gains further ground and Sliwa and Santos decline. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa More ballots up ahead! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Round 4 Candidate Rolls Pataki - 45 Trump Jr. - 65 Zeldin - 99 Sliwa - 8 Santos - 10 GOP Convention Results - Fourth Round 300 committee members total - 151 needed to win Lee Zeldin - 107 committee members (35.67%) Donald Trump Jr. - 96 committee members (32.00%) George Pataki - 87 committee members (29.00%) Curtis Sliwa - 7 committee members (2.33%) George Santos - 3 committee members (1.00%) Result: With a surprisingly strong address rallying his troops, Zeldin has experienced a second wind, however, the convention remains fractured, with no end in sight for the moment, as the minor candidates suffer and the big three duke it out. Round 5 Candidate Rolls Zeldin - 98 Trump Jr. - 43 Pataki - 85 Sliwa - 86 Santos - 55 GOP Convention Results - Fifth Round 300 committee members total - 151 needed to win Lee Zeldin - 121 committee members (40.33%) George Pataki - 92 committee members (30.67%) Donald Trump Jr. - 73 committee members (24.33%) Curtis Sliwa - 12 committee members (4.00%) George Santos - 2 committee members (0.67%) Result: Continuing his comeback, Zeldin climbed upward, with all candidates fielding strong pitches for the fifth round, save for Trump Jr. who took significant damage and Santos, whose passable convention campaign has been unable to revive his languishing bid. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa Five rounds in with no winner, I will now perform rolls to skip ahead in the convention to the finishing round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Remaining Round Candidate Rolls (everyone did well, and this is the finisher, so I'm scaling the effects of each roll) Zeldin - 64 Pataki - 97 Trump Jr. - 89 Sliwa - 91 Santos - 69 GOP Convention Results - Twelfth Round 300 committee members total - 151 needed to win George Pataki - 151 committee members (50.33%) Donald Trump Jr. - 75 committee members (25.00%) Lee Zeldin - 59 committee members (19.67%) Curtis Sliwa - 15 committee members (5.00%) George Santos - 0 committee members (0.00%) Result: Just when it seemed Zeldin may be the comeback kid of the GOP convention, his campaign fell apart with a series of gaffes and disastrous backroom negotiations, paving the way for George Pataki to unite a narrow majority of the party behind himself! Meanwhile, just clinching 25% to gain ballot access, Donald Trump Jr. has overperformed to his campaign's benefit, while both Sliwa and Santos failed to make waves at this critical opportunity for an early surge into major candidate status. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa Democratic Convention rolls and results next! Edited June 30, 2023 by The Blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Democratic Convention Candidate Rolls 3, 10, 9: +7 - Suozzi. Tom Suozzi emerged from his convention campaign with strong momentum, a surprise from the staunch centrist. While his convention address was disliked for its aggressive nature, mostly attacking other candidates, Suozzi proved brilliant at the game of wooing committee members, pitching himself as a break from the extremism and moral bankruptcy of current New York politics, capable of building a broad coalition with his policies and demographics. Suozzi gained further ground by outright refusing to take part in the backroom dealings of the convention, coming off as a moral paragon in the filth of New York politics. Overall, a great performance by Suozzi heading into voting. 9, 4, 8: +6 - Hochul. Kathy Hochul similarly performed well at the Democratic convention, building strength as she enters this contest as a frontrunner. Hochul began with a strong convention address, driving home her experience and moderate politics as her greatest strengths. And while she stumbled appealing to committee members, focusing almost exclusively on attacking Cuomo while giving little reason as to why members should support her, Kathy recovered by successfully passing a rule change prohibiting "all candidates impeached by the New York State Assembly" from speaking, eliminating Cuomo's address in a notable win. Overall, a strong convention campaign from Hochul. 4, 5, 10: +4 - Williams. With a fair performance heading into the voting, Jumaane Williams has gained moderate ground at the convention. He started poorly, with a mediocre address mostly playing to his progressive base. This trend continued with an ineffective appeal to committee members, focused on his ability to drive out youth and working-class support. However, Jumaane finally proved his skills with a masterful deal with committee members, pledging to support the party's Lt. Gov. nominee should they endorse him. Overall, Williams has built needed momentum as the convention vote nears. 5,4, 7: +1 - Prince. Paperboy Prince, while not shocking the Democratic convention, performed well enough at the event. They began with a mediocre convention address focused on their youth and progressivity, which failed to inspire support. Then, Paperboy struggled to reach out to progressive committee members, detailing their new policy plans only to be seen as pandering and spoiling the vote for Williams. Paperboy received a needed win, however, successfully lowering the ballot access requirement at the convention to 15%, though Paperboy had desired a self-beneficial 1%. Overall, while they failed to explode with support, Paperboy Prince got along fine leading into the convention vote. 3, 3, 8: -1 - RFK Jr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. entered the convention seeking to upset the broken establishment, only to suffer a middling performance as he campaigned for support. He began with a failed address promising a "new era" for New York Democrats, which soon spiraled off into an anti-vaccine speech as expected. Then, Kennedy failed to appeal to committee members, promising to "fight corruption" and "drain the swamp" in a manner many saw as Trumpian. However, RFK improved by bringing out the checkbook and successfully using his money to bribe some support from the convention. Overall, not terrible, though a missed opportunity for Kennedy certainly. 6, 2 (convention address removed by dirty trick): -2 - Cuomo. Fuming with anger as Hochul successfully blocked his convention address, the rest of Cuomo's convention campaign similarly proved unsuccessful for the embattled incumbent. While his appeals to committee members, focusing on his progressivity and experience, were moderately successful, he lost significant support when he began throwing thinly veiled threats at committee members, attempting to strongarm support only to lose it in the end. Overall, a poor convention performance for Cuomo, as the Governor faces his political mortality in the coming voting. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa I'll be afk for a bit, but Democratic convention results soon enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Democratic Convention Results - First Round 443 committee members total - 222 needed to win Kathy Hochul - 158 committee members (35.67%) Tom Suozzi - 97 committee members (21.90%) Jumaane Williams - 91 committee members (20.54%) Andrew Cuomo - 82 committee members (18.51%) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - 8 committee members (1.80%) Paperboy "Love" Prince - 7 committee members (1.58%) Result: While further balloting was expected, the breakdown of this divided Democratic convention has brought with it many surprises. While Hochul has secured a strong lead, she is far from a majority, with Tom Suozzi surging to second place, leapfrogging a still-strong Williams and collapsing Cuomo. The convention now seems unpredictable as we enter the second ballot. Round 2 Candidates Rolls Hochul - 45 Suozzi - 61 Williams - 48 Cuomo - 57 RFK Jr. - 20 Prince - 83 Democratic Convention Results - Second Round 443 committee members total - 222 needed to win Tom Suozzi - 120 committee members (27.08%) Kathy Hochul - 119 committee members (26.86%) Andrew Cuomo - 93 committee members (20.99%) Jumaane Williams - 78 committee members (17.61%) Paperboy "Love" Prince - 30 committee members (6.77%) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - 3 committee members (0.69%) Result: The second round has done little to clear up the race, as Suozzi continued to climb, peeling support from Hochul, and Cuomo experienced a second wind, with notable movement at the bottom from Paperboy Prince as well. Round 3 Candidates Rolls Suozzi - 89 Hochul - 21 Cuomo - 18 Williams - 39 Prince - 35 RFK Jr. - 89 Democratic Convention Results - Third Round 443 committee members total - 222 needed to win Tom Suozzi - 179 committee members (40.41%) Kathy Hochul - 90 committee members (20.32%) Jumaane Williams - 62 committee members (14.00%) Andrew Cuomo - 57 committee members (12.87%) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - 40 committee members (9.02%) Paperboy "Love" Prince - 15 committee members (3.38%) Result: The Suozzi train now seems unstoppable, climbing upwards at an accelerating rate as the opposing campaigns have fallen into decline or collapse. Interestingly, RFK Jr. has also experienced a surge, though he remains locked under 10%. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa Rounds four and five up next, and assuming there's no winner by then, the final turn afterwards. Edited June 30, 2023 by The Blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Round 4 Candidates Rolls Suozzi - 14 Hochul - 75 Williams - 80 Cuomo - 69 RFK Jr. - 99 Prince - 22 Democratic Convention Results - Fourth Round 443 committee members total - 222 needed to win Kathy Hochul - 103 committee members (23.25%) Tom Suozzi - 102 committee members (23.02%) Jumaane Williams - 86 committee members (19.41%) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - 79 committee members (17.83%) Andrew Cuomo - 68 committee members (15.35%) Paperboy "Love" Prince - 5 committee members (1.14%) Result: In a dramatic fashion, "no dirty tricks" Suozzi was discovered to be bribing committee members for support, igniting a massive collapse in his numbers benefiting most other candidates, though Tom remains in contention only narrowly behind Hochul. Meanwhile, RFK Jr. has surged ahead with his Kennedy cash, beating out Cuomo in an embarrassing display for the Governor. Round 5 Candidates Rolls Hochul - 83 Suozzi - 98 Williams - 41 RFK Jr. - 36 Cuomo - 53 Prince - 76 Democratic Convention Results - Fifth Round 443 committee members total - 222 needed to win Tom Suozzi - 127 committee members (28.67%) Kathy Hochul - 119 committee members (26.86%) Jumaane Williams - 71 committee members (16.03%) Andrew Cuomo - 56 committee members (12.64%) Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - 52 committee members (11.74%) Paperboy "Love" Prince - 18 committee members (4.06%) Result: The frontrunners have separated from the rest of the pack, as Suozzi and Hochul consolidated support from their declining competitors this round. However, with both still far from a majority, only further rounds will determine who wins the convention. @Rezi @Hestia @Pringles @Cal @Kitten @Cenzonico @Rodja @WVProgressive @Sean F Kennedy @ConservativeElector2@Fbarbarossa Finishing round next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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